Re: SDSF DOC for USER -- NOT SYSPROG/SEC ADMIN

2010-03-18 Thread John Kelly
snip IBM's position seems to be that you can hit PFK1, so why do you need a manual /snip and if the tutorial EVER had any usable information, that would be good advise. The only good thing to say about SDSF's tutorial is that it make the manual look good. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office)

Re: SDSF DOC for USER -- NOT SYSPROG/SEC ADMIN

2010-03-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 58fc7f986fcb804286e23b59decf420fc2a...@nwt-s-mbx1.rocketsoftware.com, on 03/14/2010 at 05:36 PM, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com said: IBM's position seems to be that you can hit PFK1, so why do you need a manual It's the OS/2 mentality. ITYM windows mentality; OS/2 has *both*

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2010-03-16 Thread Thomas Berg
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Re: SDSF DOC for USER -- NOT SYSPROG/SEC ADMIN

2010-03-14 Thread Bob Shannon
IBM's position seems to be that you can hit PFK1, so why do you need a manual It's the OS/2 mentality. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: SDSF DOC for USER -- NOT SYSPROG/SEC ADMIN

2010-03-13 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 45d79eacefba9b428e3d400e924d36b903336...@iwdubcormsg007.sci.local, on 03/12/2010 at 02:08 PM, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com said: Where do I find such a doc? In a museum; IBM stopped providing updated user documentation for SDSF a long time ago. You can, of course, use the

SDSF DOC for USER -- NOT SYSPROG/SEC ADMIN

2010-03-12 Thread Thompson, Steve
Where do I find such a doc? And specifically, if a JOB is defined with SPIN for various outputs, how does one select a specific DD they want to look at. The simplest way of putting this is like this: JOB runs for 15 hours. The JES JOB LOG spins 10 times. But in doing this, so do 4 other outputs

Re: SDSF DOC for USER -- NOT SYSPROG/SEC ADMIN

2010-03-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
FILTER DDNAME JESMSGLG FILTER DDNAME OUTDD FILTER OFF to see them all -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 2:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SDSF DOC for USER

Re: SDSF DOC for USER -- NOT SYSPROG/SEC ADMIN

2010-03-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
: Mar 12, 2010 2:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SDSF DOC for USER -- NOT SYSPROG/SEC ADMIN Where do I find such a doc? And specifically, if a JOB is defined with SPIN for various outputs, how does one select a specific DD they want to look at. The simplest way of putting this is like

Re: SDSF DOC for USER -- NOT SYSPROG/SEC ADMIN

2010-03-12 Thread Thompson, Steve
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Re: SDSF DOC for USER -- NOT SYSPROG/SEC ADMIN

2010-03-12 Thread John Kelly
snip But the other problem I have is, the only SDSF manual I can find (titled: SDSF Operation and Customization) is not USER oriented. /snip Opinion - The SDSF manual, and for that matter 'support', has always been awful. To do anything, other than ?, it's pretty much guess or find someone who

Re: SDSF DOC for USER -- NOT SYSPROG/SEC ADMIN

2010-03-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
FILTER DDNAME JESMSGLG FILTER DDNAME OUTDD FILTER OFF to see them all MERGE POSTS -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 1:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SDSF DOC for USER

Re: SDSF DOC for USER -- NOT SYSPROG/SEC ADMIN

2010-03-12 Thread Thompson, Steve
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 2:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SDSF DOC for USER -- NOT SYSPROG/SEC ADMIN Steve, there was an old manual long ago that was directed more to the end user. It was called the SDSF

Re: SDSF DOC for USER -- NOT SYSPROG/SEC ADMIN

2010-03-12 Thread Lizette Koehler
releases). But this is the guy I was looking for. Thank you very much. Steve Thompson -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 2:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SDSF DOC for USER