Re: CF pricing [was: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?!]

2008-04-10 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
[was: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?!] On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 14:02 -0500, McKown, John wrote: No coupling facility, so basic sysplex. XCF signalling via a ESCON CTC. That's all I have. The CF was nixed due to cost. Sigh. That CF is 1/4 of a z10 chip, already delivered to you and sitting

Re: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?!

2008-04-10 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 14:58:22 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 18:36:08 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not simply convert all reserves? One reason is that reserve is fast and cheap. An enqueue involves a negotiation with all interested parties over

Re: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?!

2008-04-10 Thread Tom Russell
Date:Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:27:36 -0500 From:McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?! With only two members in the Sysplex GRS ring is viable as the performance should not be too bad with only two members in the ring. I would set RESMIL=0. You really should

SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?!

2008-04-09 Thread McKown, John
This came as a shock to me. We just went to a basic sysplex, splitting a single image into two images. We just had a lockup occur between the two images. This was caused because SPFEDIT does a RESERVE on the volume during a save operation. OK, mea culpa, for not reading every word of all

Re: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?!

2008-04-09 Thread Rob Scott
-2305 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: 09 April 2008 14:59 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?! This came as a shock to me. We just went to a basic sysplex, splitting

Re: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?!

2008-04-09 Thread Hal Merritt
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?! This came as a shock to me. We just went to a basic sysplex, splitting a single image into two images. We just had a lockup

Re: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?!

2008-04-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 10:09:04 -0400, Rob Scott wrote: If you haven't seen it already, ISPF enqueues are mentioned explicitly in the z/OS MVS Planning : GRS manual - there are cases where exclusion RNL is warranted and it also explains how SPFEDIT lives with SYSDSN. And, more important, earlier I

Re: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?!

2008-04-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Why not simply convert all reserves? One reason is that reserve is fast and cheap. An enqueue involves a negotiation with all interested parties over a commutations Link. Can be v e r y s l o w. I've been converting them for years. With GRS*, fast coupling links, and today's DASD, the

Re: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?!

2008-04-09 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?! Why not simply convert all reserves? One reason is that reserve

Re: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?!

2008-04-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
No coupling facility, so basic sysplex. XCF signalling via a ESCON CTC. That's all I have. The CF was nixed due to cost. With two systems (which, iirc, you have), simple XCF signalling should be enough. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?!

2008-04-09 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 18:36:08 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not simply convert all reserves? One reason is that reserve is fast and cheap. An enqueue involves a negotiation with all interested parties over a commutations Link. Can be v e r y s l o w. I've been converting them

CF pricing [was: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?!]

2008-04-09 Thread David Andrews
On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 14:02 -0500, McKown, John wrote: No coupling facility, so basic sysplex. XCF signalling via a ESCON CTC. That's all I have. The CF was nixed due to cost. Sigh. That CF is 1/4 of a z10 chip, already delivered to you and sitting idle. It could have been positioned and

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2008-04-09 Thread Scott Rowe
John, did you even consider running an ICF on your CPs? I don't know if you have any excess capacity, but it is an option. They don't advise using shared CPs for ICFs in a true data sharing environment, but if all you are using it for is GRS* it can work, and might allow you to convert all

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2008-04-09 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 3:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?! A63986815-1207766168-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net [EMAIL

Re: CF pricing [was: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?!]

2008-04-09 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Andrews Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 3:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: CF pricing [was: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?!] On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 14:02 -0500, McKown, John

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2008-04-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
What is all the cr*p after !?!. I use a BlackBerry, and this doesn't show up with mine. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: CF pricing [was: SPFEDIT does a RESERVE!?!]

2008-04-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
CFL not Canadian Football League It's not called a CFL, either. It's called an ICF (Internal Coupling Facility) - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email