Re: Storage usage in a job

2011-10-20 Thread Wayne Driscoll
= Wayne Driscoll OMEGAMON DB2 L3 Support/Development wdrisco(AT)us.ibm.com === From: Wayne Driscoll/Chicago/IBM@IBMUS To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 10/21/2010 03:28 PM Subject: Re: Storage usage in a job Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-24 Thread Toole, Michael
Real Mike -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Phil Smith Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Storage usage in a job Mike Toole wrote: >The 120T in SDSF refers to 120 thousand fra

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-22 Thread Mike Schwab
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Veilleux, Jon L wrote: > I wish I could find it but I am not having any luck today. I had found a > specific reference to that happening, somewhere, but I will retire that > opinion for lack of corroborating evidence. > Everyone have a great weekend. > The real p

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-22 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Friday, October 22, 2010 1:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Storage usage in a job On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 07:55:41 -0400, Veilleux, Jon L wrote: >I am trying to find the specific reference, but I saw IBM entries >stating that ther

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-22 Thread Joel C. Ewing
here can be this type of fetch errors and yes it does say that they are due to insufficient storage. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 5:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: St

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-22 Thread Tom Marchant
f Of Scott Rowe >Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 5:10 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu >Subject: Re: Storage usage in a job > >Yes, you may get load failures in that case, but the failure wouldn't say: >FAILED BECAUSE INSUFFICIENT STORAGE WAS AVAILABLE > >On Thu, Oct 21, 2010

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-22 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 5:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Storage usage in a job Yes, you may get load failures in that case, but the failure wouldn't say: FAILED BECAUSE INSUFFICIENT STORAG

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-21 Thread Scott Rowe
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:30 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Storage usage in a job > > On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 07:21:58 -0400, Veilleux, Jon L wrote: > > >By any chance did someone change the LINKLIST set recently > >without an IPL? That can cause this error,

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-21 Thread Schumacher, Otto
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Storage usage in a job On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 07:21:58 -0400, Veilleux, Jon L wrote: >By any chance did someone change the LINKLIST set recently >without an IPL? That can cause this error, Can it? What kind of LinkList

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-21 Thread Phil Smith
Mike Toole wrote: >The 120T in SDSF refers to 120 thousand frames. So multiply 120,000 by 4096 = >491,520,000. That's how much real storage you're using. Real or virtual? If it's real, then this makes sense - it's only a 768MB guest. -- ...phsiii Phil Smith III p...@voltage.com Voltage Securi

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-21 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 19:10:34 -0700, Phil Smith wrote: >We're doing some load testing, and running out of storage, but we >can't figure out how to tell WHAT storage. You've had some other hints, but I didn't see this mentioned. What was displayed in the IEF374I message in JESYSMSG? -- Tom Mar

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-21 Thread Wayne Driscoll
. === Wayne Driscoll OMEGAMON DB2 L3 Support/Development wdrisco(AT)us.ibm.com === From: Phil Smith To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 10/21/2010 02:43 PM Subject: Re: Storage usage in a job Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Tom Marchant

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-21 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 12:38:56 -0700, Phil Smith wrote: >Tom Marchant asked: >>You've had some other hints, but I didn't see this mentioned.  What was displayed in the IEF374I message in JESYSMSG? > >IEF374I STEP/RUN /STOP 2010292.0955 CPU 345MIN 59.72SEC SRB0MIN 00.44SEC VIRT 7752K SYS

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-21 Thread Phil Smith
Tom Marchant asked: >You've had some other hints, but I didn't see this mentioned.  What was >displayed in the IEF374I message in JESYSMSG? IEF374I STEP/RUN /STOP 2010292.0955 CPU 345MIN 59.72SEC SRB0MIN 00.44SEC VIRT 7752K SYS 272K EXT 1675360K SYS 12044K -- ...phsiii -

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-21 Thread Tom Marchant
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Phil Smith >Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:11 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu >Subject: Storage usage in a job > >We're doing some load testing, and running out of storage, but we can't figure out how to tell

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-21 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 12:03:51 -0700, Phil Smith wrote: >Mike Toole wrote: >>The 120T in SDSF refers to 120 thousand frames. So multiply 120,000 by 4096 = 491,520,000. That's how much real storage you're using. > >Real or virtual? Real. >If it's real, then this makes sense - it's only a 768MB gu

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-21 Thread Toole, Michael
y, October 19, 2010 10:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Storage usage in a job We're doing some load testing, and running out of storage, but we can't figure out how to tell WHAT storage. Shortly before it blew off, the REAL column in SDSF showed "120T". We're pr

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-20 Thread Phil Smith
Thanks to all who replied. Terry Draper asked some specific questions: >You do not say what kind of batch job it is. Is it normal qsam/vsam or is > it DB2? This is doing encryption of huge volumes of data. I/O is very low. >The CPU percentage (CPU time /elapsed time) is over 70%. This is

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-20 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
Please excuse me for that weird post before. Finger check; it wasn't meant to be sent out at that time. >We're doing some load testing, and running out of storage, >but we can't figure out how to tell WHAT storage. Shortly >before it blew off, the REAL column in SDSF showed "120T". >We're prett

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-20 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
>We're doing some load testing, and running out of storage, >but we can't figure out how to tell WHAT storage. Shortly before it blew off, the REAL column in SDSF showed "120T". We're pretty sure that wasn't 120 terabytes; it seems to be T for Thousand. But that isn't a lot of memory?! Here's the

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-20 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Phil Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Storage usage in a job We're doing some load testing, and running out of storage, but we can't figure out how to tell WH

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-20 Thread Terry Draper
recommend fixing the virtual storage AND the high CPU percentage.  Terry Draper zSeries Performance Consultant w...@btopenworld.com mobile:  +66 811431287 --- On Wed, 20/10/10, Mike Schwab wrote: From: Mike Schwab Subject: Re: Storage usage in a job To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Wednesday, 20

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-19 Thread Hal Merritt
EFUSI exit to determine what limits have been imposed. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Phil Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 9:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Storage usage in a job We're doing some lo

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-19 Thread Barbara Nitz
>We're doing some load testing, and running out of storage, but we can't >figure out how to tell WHAT storage. For this and the other thread (z/os 1.11 and low private): Set a slip trap on the 878 (overriding the default that probably everybody has to suppress them) and look at the resulting sd

Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-19 Thread Mike Schwab
120T = 120,000 4K pages over 480,000,000 bytes On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Phil Smith wrote: > We're doing some load testing, and running out of storage, but we can't > figure out how to tell WHAT storage. Shortly before it blew off, the REAL > column in SDSF showed "120T". We're pretty su

Storage usage in a job

2010-10-19 Thread Phil Smith
We're doing some load testing, and running out of storage, but we can't figure out how to tell WHAT storage. Shortly before it blew off, the REAL column in SDSF showed "120T". We're pretty sure that wasn't 120 terabytes; it seems to be T for Thousand. But that isn't a lot of memory?! Here's the