Re: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER?

2008-02-29 Thread J R
That's why I suggested allocating to a non-specific ddname. I was hoping it would influence the not-in-use attribute. > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:13:35 -0500 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER? > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > > In

Re: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER?

2008-02-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/27/2008 at 03:29 PM, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I just tried that and it didn't work for me . What happens if the existing allocation is marked not in use? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER?

2008-02-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:55:38 -0500, J R wrote: >I have still been unable to test this. In my current >environment I'm unable to create non-cataloged >datasets. It's probably an SMS thing. > ??? Are even your temporary data sets catalogued, or are you not allowed to create temporary data se

Re: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER?

2008-02-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:55:38 -0500, J R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have still been unable to test this. In my current >environment I'm unable to create non-cataloged >datasets. It's probably an SMS thing. > It is. If you don't know the magic STORCLAS that will keep it from getting SMS

Re: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER?

2008-02-28 Thread J R
t of SMS. Or, maybe I imagined tho whole thing? > Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:34:49 -0600 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER? > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:14:24 -0500, J R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: &

Re: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER?

2008-02-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:50:57 -0600, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:05:46 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: > > But I really don't know if BPXWDYN >>requires it. Maybe Paul G. knows or someone else. >> >>> >Doesn't require OMVS (AFAIK; I can't test this); After thi

Re: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER?

2008-02-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:14:24 -0500, J R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >From the description of the ALLOCATE command >operands in TSO/E Command Reference, SA22-7782: > >"When you invoke ALLOCATE to perform dsname >dynamic allocation, an "allocation environment" >already exists for your request. It

Re: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER?

2008-02-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:05:46 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: >Yes. Thanks for pointing that out as it is supported by the OS. The only >problem might be if "joe programmer" doesn't have a OMVS segment and >the default segment isn't defined.But I really don't know if BPXWDYN >requires it. Maybe

Re: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER?

2008-02-28 Thread Mark Zelden
Yes. Thanks for pointing that out as it is supported by the OS. The only problem might be if "joe programmer" doesn't have a OMVS segment and the default segment isn't defined.But I really don't know if BPXWDYN requires it. Maybe Paul G. knows or someone else. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. So

Re: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER?

2008-02-28 Thread Big Iron
The BPXWDYN function, available in REXX, allows you to concatenate a list of ddnames. e.g. call bpxwdyn "concat ddlist(somedd,dd1,dd2) msg(2)" would concat dd1 and dd2 to somedd. Bill On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:28:24 -0600, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:34:32 -

Re: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER?

2008-02-28 Thread Binyamin Dissen
password protection). TSO supports specifying a password any time a dataset name is specified. :>> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:29:28 -0600 :>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :>> Subject: Re: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER? :>> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU :>> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:09:24

Re: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER?

2008-02-27 Thread J R
ate: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:29:28 -0600 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER? > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:09:24 -0500, J R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I believe Scott is correct. > > > >If you alloc

Re: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER?

2008-02-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:09:24 -0500, J R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I believe Scott is correct. > >If you allocate a dataset without specifying its volser, >allocation will run the DSAB queue *before* looking in >the catalog. If a dataset of the same name is already >allocated, that's the s

Re: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER?

2008-02-27 Thread J R
ate: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:54:05 -0500 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER? > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > > I haven't tried this, but I believe that if you allocate the uncataloged > dataset (to a different DD) prior to allocating the concaten

Re: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER?

2008-02-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:34:32 -0500, Martin, Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >All, > > > >(For "allocating" existing datasets) Can someone give an example of a >TSO ALLOCATE command that uses concatenated datasets, where one of the >datasets is NOT cataloged? Is it possible? > It's not possible

Re: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER?

2008-02-27 Thread Traylor, Terry
, February 27, 2008 12:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER? All, (For "allocating" existing datasets) Can someone give an example of a TSO ALLOCATE command that uses concatenated datasets, where one of the datasets is NOT cataloged? Is it possible? M

Re: TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER?

2008-02-27 Thread Scott Rowe
I haven't tried this, but I believe that if you allocate the uncataloged dataset (to a different DD) prior to allocating the concatenation, then it will be found. >>> "Martin, Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2/27/2008 2:34 PM >>> All, (For "allocating" existing datasets) Can someone give an examp

TSO ALLOC concat using VOLSER?

2008-02-27 Thread Martin, Mike
All, (For "allocating" existing datasets) Can someone give an example of a TSO ALLOCATE command that uses concatenated datasets, where one of the datasets is NOT cataloged? Is it possible? Mike Martin This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the