Re: SV: Using system variables in JCL

2009-04-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Simple solution: 1. Submitting system = prefix SSYS* (or RSYS*) 2. Converting system = prefix CSYS* (or ISYS*) 3. Executing system = prefix ESYS* So, what you seem to be saying is run the converter three times? NOT that simple. Plus, you've tied up four characters out of 8 allowed. That

SV: Using system variables in JCL

2009-04-09 Thread Thomas Berg
-Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] För Ted MacNEIL Skickat: den 8 april 2009 23:49 Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Ämne: Re: Using system variables in JCL I was a DBA not a sysprog so I asked my sysprog to changed the JES exit

Re: Using system variables in JCL

2009-04-09 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:48:53 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: I was a DBA not a sysprog so I asked my sysprog to changed the JES exit to support the specification of date and time as part of the new output dataset name. Your exit request still has issue. The same one that using SYSTEM SYMBOLS in

Re: Using system variables in JCL

2009-04-09 Thread Victor Gil
Roger, Does this restriction also include the PARM? I have no problems passing the below string to a program that calls ASASYMBM to get substitutied values: // PARM='SYSPLEX SYSNAME SYSNAME(1) SYSCLONE HHMMSS' Thanks! -Victor- On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:38:32 -0600, Roger Bolan

Re: Using system variables in JCL

2009-04-09 Thread Roger Bolan
Victor, I don't know. I haven't tried that myself. I was just quoting a line from the JCL Reference verbatim that says SYSUID is the only system symbol you can use in JCL. I haven't used ASASYMBM. I looked it up. I suspect that what you are passing to ASASYMBM is just the parameter string

Using system variables in JCL

2009-04-08 Thread Johnson Jr., Donald E
I have had someone ask me a question that I could not answer directly, and hope someone can point me in the right direction. How can I determine what system variables are available for use in JCL DSN statements? For example, I know that I can use SYSUID, but it seems that other variables like

Re: Using system variables in JCL

2009-04-08 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Of Johnson Jr., Donald E Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Using system variables in JCL I have had someone ask me a question that I could not answer directly, and hope someone can point me in the right direction. How can I determine what system variables

Re: Using system variables in JCL

2009-04-08 Thread Barkow, Eileen
issue command D SYMBOLS and see MVS JCL reference -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Johnson Jr., Donald E Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Using system variables in JCL I have had

Re: Using system variables in JCL

2009-04-08 Thread Johnson Jr., Donald E
the sender immediately. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Barkow, Eileen Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 1:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Using system variables in JCL issue command D SYMBOLS and see MVS JCL

Re: Using system variables in JCL

2009-04-08 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 1:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Using system variables in JCL Thanks for the nudge, Eileen. I found this in the JCL reference: You cannot use system symbols, except for SYSUID, in batch JCL. So my desire to use jobname, sysname and date is not possible

Re: Using system variables in JCL

2009-04-08 Thread Dave Salt
From: veilleu...@aetna.com However, you CAN use System Symbols in Started Task JCL, so if you can convert it to run as an STC Or convert it to run as skeleton JCL... Dave Salt SimpList(tm) - try it; you'll get it! http://www.mackinney.com/products/SIM/simplist.htm

Re: Using system variables in JCL

2009-04-08 Thread Steve Horein
On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:09:43 -0400, Dave Salt ds...@hotmail.com wrote: From: veilleu...@aetna.com However, you CAN use System Symbols in Started Task JCL, so if you can convert it to run as an STC Or convert it to run as skeleton JCL... Dave Salt SimpList(tm) - try it; you'll get it!

Re: Using system variables in JCL

2009-04-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
issue command D SYMBOLS In general, system symbols are not available for Batch. The reasons, and the complaints, are in the archives, and I hope we don't repeat that discussion (again!). - Too busy driving to stop for gas! --

Re: Using system variables in JCL

2009-04-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Or convert it to run as skeleton JCL... How would that get the appropriate system variables into it? - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Using system variables in JCL

2009-04-08 Thread Dave Salt
Or convert it to run as skeleton JCL... From: eamacn...@yahoo.ca How would that get the appropriate system variables into it? If the value of a symbol is in the function, shared or profile pool of whichever process resolves the skeleton (e.g. a REXX procedure), then the symbols in the

Re: Using system variables in JCL

2009-04-08 Thread Roger Bolan
du Re: Using system variables in JCL 04/08/2009 11:10 AM

Re: Using system variables in JCL

2009-04-08 Thread Yau Hwang (Joseph) Tan
du Re: Using system variables in JCL 04/08/2009 11:10 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List ibm-m...@bama.ua.e du look in the mvs jcl reference manual

Re: Using system variables in JCL

2009-04-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I was a DBA not a sysprog so I asked my sysprog to changed the JES exit to support the specification of date and time as part of the new output dataset name. This allows me to do such things as managing the deletion of obsolete backups etc by dataset creation date and time instead of GDG

Re: Using system variables in JCL

2009-04-08 Thread Yau Hwang (Joseph) Tan
GDG is great in most circumstances. When you have unpredictable/unknown level of databse update activities the number of database regeneration log datasets created can varies a lot. During database recovery/regeneration (whether DR situation or not) you want to be sure the latest dataset to be on

Re: Using system variables in JCL

2009-04-08 Thread DanD
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 2:51 PM Subject: Re: Using system variables in JCL On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 14:09:43 -0400, Dave Salt ds...@hotmail.com wrote: From: veilleu...@aetna.com However, you CAN use System Symbols in Started Task JCL, so if you can convert