Re: Warning: PTF's require HDS microcode, which is not available until the second week of January ----- UPDATE!!!!

2006-01-05 Thread Brian Peterson
There *was* more to the story The PE list in OA14708 today includes all affected PTFs and the AI information (which was only on *some* of the PTFs) has now been deleted. In addition, under 'additional symptoms' OA14708 describes the aspect of the problem which was specific to HDS hardware.

Warning: PTF's require HDS microcode, which is not available until the second week of January ----- UPDATE!!!!

2006-01-04 Thread Eatherly, John D [IT]
IBM has backed off. They created this APAR for the issue. APAR Identifier .. OA14708 http://www-306.ibm.com/ibmlink/link2/sis/sisPage.jsp?applJsp=documentBr owse.jspnavItem=sis.jsplc=encc=USdocNumber=OA14708 Last Changed 05/12/21 IEA307I I/O ERROR READING VOLUME LABEL

Re: Warning: PTF's require HDS microcode, which is not available until the second week of January ----- UPDATE!!!!

2006-01-04 Thread Brian Peterson
Not sure what you mean by IBM has backed off. The APAR quoted does not mention HDS, nor does it flag as PE any PTF (which means that HDS customers are still doomed to discover their new MVS maintenance fails to IPL). There must be more to the story Brian On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 09:05:13 -0600,

Re: Warning: PTF's require HDS microcode, which is not available until the second week of January.

2006-01-03 Thread Eatherly, John D [IT]
So, does UA22489 have the same problem with HDS as UA22552? Or does it circumvent the HDS problem?? Yes it does have the same problem. Either PTF causes the same issue. I did ask that question. Thanks. John Eatherly -- For

Re: Warning: PTF's require HDS microcode, which is not available until the second week of January.

2006-01-03 Thread Bruce Black
So, does UA22489 have the same problem with HDS as UA22552? Or does it circumvent the HDS problem?? Yes it does have the same problem. Either PTF causes the same issue. I did ask that question. So IBM needs to add the AI to the superceding PTFs. Did they volunteer to do so?

Re: Warning: PTF's require HDS microcode, which is not available until the second week of January.

2005-12-31 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 15:40 -0600 on 12/30/2005, Dave Danner wrote about Re: Warning: PTF's require HDS microcode, which is not avai: The problem is not with SMP/E. I've been told that the internal IBM systems that generate enhanced HOLDDATA are not capable of generating ACTION, DEP, etc holds. That is

Re: Warning: PTF's require HDS microcode, which is not available until the second week of January.

2005-12-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/29/2005 at 02:46 PM, Brian Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: What is really needed is a ++HOLD ACTION or ++HOLD EC with text stating that Vendor-A microcode level xxx is required for compatability with PTF UZ1. However, ++HOLD ACTION / ++HOLD EC text must be

Re: Warning: PTF's require HDS microcode, which is not available until the second week of January.

2005-12-30 Thread Brian Peterson
Well, well, wellI was *sure* that this could not be done. Wrong. After a closer reading of the SMP/E Commands manual, it appears that SMP/E fully supports sending ++HOLD ACTION or ++HOLD EC statements after the fact via the same mechanism (RECEIVE HOLDDATA) as ++HOLD ERROR commands. So, the

Re: Warning: PTF's require HDS microcode, which is not available until the second week of January.

2005-12-29 Thread Eatherly, John D [IT]
At 12:46 -0600 on 12/28/2005, Eatherly, John D [IT] wrote about Warning: PTF's require HDS microcode, which is not availab: Just wanted to pass on a heads up on some APARs that require HDS microcode on DASD. And that microcode will not be available until the 2nd week in January. Was there a

Re: Warning: PTF's require HDS microcode, which is not available until the second week of January.

2005-12-29 Thread Brian Peterson
AI information is text added to PTFs (not APARs). The AI text is visible if you go into IBMLink and call up the PTF. Or, search for a keyword which does not appear frequently in the IBMLink data base, such as HDS. The AI information notification mechanism is completely manual. You have to

Re: Warning: PTF's require HDS microcode, which is not available until the second week of January.

2005-12-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 12/29/2005 at 12:30 PM, Brian Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: In case I have been unclear, it is my opinion that the AI information process is completely useless. If a problem deserves publication of AI information because of the impact to customers, it absolutely

Re: Warning: PTF's require HDS microcode, which is not available until the second week of January.

2005-12-29 Thread Brian Peterson
The following scenerio may resemble the circumstances in this thread. 1) IBM writes code, tests it with IBM hardware, and issues the code as PTF UZ1 (for example). 2) Vendor-A's DASD stops working when customers install PTF UZ1. 3) IBM customers who have Vendor-A DASD call IBM to

Warning: PTF's require HDS microcode, which is not available until the second week of January.

2005-12-29 Thread Phil Payne
The heads up of course is valuable - it's what this list is about. Just wanted to pass on a heads up on some APARs that require HDS microcode on DASD. And that microcode will not be available until the 2nd week in January. Was there a HOLD(ACTION) [or it might need to be HOLD(DEPENDENT?) -

Re: Warning: PTF's require HDS microcode, which is not available until the second week of January.

2005-12-29 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 14:46 -0600 on 12/29/2005, Brian Peterson wrote about Re: Warning: PTF's require HDS microcode, which is not avai: What is really needed is a ++HOLD ACTION or ++HOLD EC with text stating that Vendor-A microcode level xxx is required for compatability with PTF UZ1. However, ++HOLD

Re: Warning: PTF's require HDS microcode, which is not available until the second week of January.

2005-12-28 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 12:46 -0600 on 12/28/2005, Eatherly, John D [IT] wrote about Warning: PTF's require HDS microcode, which is not availab: Just wanted to pass on a heads up on some APARs that require HDS microcode on DASD. And that microcode will not be available until the 2nd week in January. Was there

Re: Warning: PTF's require HDS microcode, which is not available until the second week of January.

2005-12-28 Thread Glen Gasior
* Just as a word to the cautious - I would not IPL any system that accesses the HDS storage subsystem while an HDS microcode update is taking place. * On 12/28/05, Eatherly, John D [IT] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wanted to pass on a heads up on some APARs that require HDS microcode on

Re: Warning: PTF's require HDS microcode, which is not available until the second week of January.

2005-12-28 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
I wouldn't IPL or Boot any system that is accessing ANY vendor's storage when microcode is being updated. :( -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glen Gasior Sent: Thursday, 29 December 2005 4:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU