Re: What is 'Program Logical Manuals'?

2007-06-04 Thread Frank I Rosenzweig
Wow!! - What a return to the good old days. I remember having all of the Y and then L manuals on my bookshelves - with a bunch of paper clips and post-it-notes and dog-eared pages. Thank you for bringing me back to the good old days. On 6/1/07, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: What is 'Program Logical Manuals'?

2007-06-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/31/2007 at 09:19 PM, Johnny Luo [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm interested and just wonder what is 'program logic manual'? IBM used to publish manuals with flow charts and narrative of the program logic. Later the flow charts were supplanted by HIPO diagrams that

What is 'Program Logical Manuals'?

2007-05-31 Thread Johnny Luo
I got this website while doing google search: http://www.users.cloud9.net/~bradmcc/ibmsongbook.html At the bottom of the page there is an example MVS task management control block diagram and it says: *IBM* http://www.users.cloud9.net/~bradmcc/ibmsongbook.html Program Logic Manuals are full of

Re: What is 'Program Logical Manuals'?

2007-05-31 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnny Luo Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 8:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: What is 'Program Logical Manuals'? snip I'm interested and just wonder what is 'program logic manual

Re: What is 'Program Logical Manuals'?

2007-05-31 Thread Chris Mason
. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: Johnny Luo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 3:19 PM Subject: What is 'Program Logical Manuals'? I got this website while doing google search: http://www.users.cloud9.net

Re: What is 'Program Logical Manuals'?

2007-05-31 Thread J R
Chris Mason: ... abort the product Freudian slip? From: Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is 'Program Logical Manuals'? Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 15:50:50 +0200 Johnny Since you are something

Re: What is 'Program Logical Manuals'?

2007-05-31 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip- ... abort the product Freudian slip? -unsnip--- Not necessarily!! :-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: What is 'Program Logical Manuals'?

2007-05-31 Thread Johnny Luo
is 'Program Logical Manuals'? snip I'm interested and just wonder what is 'program logic manual'? I know IBM has manuals named MVS Data Areas but they don't have diagrams. Thanks. -- Best Regards, Johnny Luo Those no longer exist for us. They were very good descriptions of how things

Re: What is 'Program Logical Manuals'?

2007-05-31 Thread Chris Mason
, May 31, 2007 3:58 PM Subject: Re: What is 'Program Logical Manuals'? Chris Mason: ... abort the product Freudian slip? From: Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is 'Program Logical Manuals

Re: What is 'Program Logical Manuals'?

2007-05-31 Thread Johnny Luo
On 5/31/07, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johnny Since you are something of a Johnny come lately - sorry, I couldn't resist that - it's idiomatic for a newcomer -- Chirs, I must admit that you're right though I have joined this list for two years. -_- Last year I got one book titled

Re: What is 'Program Logical Manuals'?

2007-05-31 Thread Bill Wilkie
I know that feeling. I once had a book entitled How to stop Procrastinating but I didn't get to it either. Bill From: Johnny Luo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is 'Program Logical Manuals'? Date: Thu

Re: What is 'Program Logical Manuals'?

2007-05-31 Thread Mark H. Young
On Thu, 31 May 2007 22:46:54 +0800, Johnny Luo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last year I got one book titled 'MVS Control Blocks' but haven't studied it yet because it's behind Carmine Cannatello's book on my book-reading schedule... Hope it'll help. ( It's really old.) Johnny YES, you ARE a young

Re: What is 'Program Logical Manuals'?

2007-05-31 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 05/31/2007 09:34:03 AM: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johnny Luo Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 8:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: What is 'Program

Re: What is 'Program Logical Manuals'?

2007-05-31 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Mulder Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What is 'Program Logical Manuals'? snip Nor for those of us on the inside. The Logic Manuals