Re: When will ADRDSSU start to ENQUEUE on data sets?

2008-05-01 Thread Ron Hawkins
Johnny, You may want to look into using Concurrent Copy with your backups. That way you won't lose datasets that are deleted after the start of the backup, and the actual backup will be closer to a real point-in-time image of all the datasets processed by the job. Ron -Original

Re: When will ADRDSSU start to ENQUEUE on data sets?

2008-05-01 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hello Johhny, over in IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0211L=ibm-main-archivesP=R107226 http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0202L=ibm-main-archivesP=R120423 There is a reference to Marketing Request MR00058723 On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:37:47 +0800, Johnny Luo [EMAIL

Re: When will ADRDSSU start to ENQUEUE on data sets?

2008-04-30 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hello Johnny, Does your backup job use generic dataset masks for the INCLUDE list? Search the archives for earlier posts on DF/DSS using the older SVC26 interface to retrieve CATALOG data. In one case here a job took 2 hours to build the dataset list before mounting the first output tape.

Re: When will ADRDSSU start to ENQUEUE on data sets?

2008-04-30 Thread Johnny Luo
Bruce, Thanks a lot!!! I must say, it's a great idea. We have lots of job runing hours to backup data sets both in production and test environment and they all use generic filter. The possible performance gain is well worth doing and I will work on it right now. The rexx requires some

Re: When will ADRDSSU start to ENQUEUE on data sets?

2008-04-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
I think there might be one issue you also need to deal with. This is old knowledge and I do not know if the limit still exists, but at one time DFDSS could only handle so many control cards at one time. The generic allowed you to handle 100's of files but specific data set backups had a

Re: When will ADRDSSU start to ENQUEUE on data sets?

2008-04-30 Thread Johnny Luo
Yes, it exists. We're using z/OS 1.7 and the limitation forced me to use FILTERDD. The limitation is only for the SYSIN. On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think there might be one issue you also need to deal with. This is old knowledge and I do not

Re: When will ADRDSSU start to ENQUEUE on data sets?

2008-04-30 Thread Johnny Luo
Bruce, 'Search the archives for earlier posts on DF/DSS using the older SVC26 interface to retrieve CATALOG data' I have tried various keywords but sill can not find the thread. Can you give more hints? Thanks. On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Bruce Hewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello

When will ADRDSSU start to ENQUEUE on data sets?

2008-04-29 Thread Johnny Luo
Hi, We encountered a problem on our production system. A job was using DSS to backup a lot of data sets (logical dump) and we got ADR321E for one extended format PS data set: the data set was not on the supposed volume. This job will run more than 3 hours and we found out that another job will

Re: When will ADRDSSU start to ENQUEUE on data sets?

2008-04-29 Thread Linda Mooney
There is a delay between the building of the list and actually backing up each dataset on the list. Generally, an enqueue is not set at the time the list is built - as you said, it may be hours before each dataset is actually backed up. Do you run DSS natively or are you calling it from