Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-10-08 Thread Greg Price
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:56:48 -0500, Jan Vanbrabant wrote: But I couldn't dig up what I was looking for: will one of the reports display the CPU usage within each module? Jan, None of the reports you listed will show CPU consumption by program, because that information is not collected. Reported

Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-10-07 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
Hi Greg, Re. you saying ... you could check out the recently GA-ed ‘’Tivoli Asset Discovery for z/OS’’ which happens to employ some of the Dorana technology I helped write way back last millenium. This product is also the logical successor to TLCMz, if I'm not mistaken. Yes , you're

Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-08-20 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip That is very true. One side issue is that every once in a while there is a program that *NOBODY* knows about and you have done your home work researching where it might be called from. You cannot find any obvious answer so

Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-08-20 Thread Joel Wolpert
20, 2009 12:49 PM Subject: Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs? snip That is very true. One side issue is that every once in a while there is a program that *NOBODY* knows about and you have done your home work

Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-08-20 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip Does it also tell you what program invoked the module? unsnip-- Unfortunately, it does not tell you the identify of the invoker. Given the nature and the mechanics involved, I

Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-08-20 Thread Joel Wolpert
:45 PM Subject: Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs? ---snip Does it also tell you what program invoked the module? unsnip-- Unfortunately, it does not tell you the identify

Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-08-20 Thread Greg Price
Rick Fochtman wrote: I know of a LLA exit written by Greg Price that can help with module counts. Thanks for the kind words, Rick. The LLA exit 1 concept is fairly straightforward (Rob Scott also did it in MXI) but only covers LLA-managed programs. To capture most program usage reliably takes

Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-08-19 Thread Staller, Allan
That is the purpose of the STROBE, GTF, ETC. step. You have to start someplace. The stuff under the covers is the fun part! snip ---snip- Using SMF30 subtype 4 Calculate top 100 cpu consuming steps (Total of TCB/SRB) by program name (EXEC

Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs

2009-08-19 Thread Peter Relson
The Module Fetch Monitor is still available upon signing of a license agreement for non-warranted programs. Support of any kind is very limited (close to non-existent). Being a non-warranted program, it usually would not be appropriate to open a PMR if there is a problem in this tool. It has been

Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-08-19 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip--- What you said is true but by starting with the data in the SMF you can then drill down. If a program is called via CALL or any of the other methods the CPU will be shown in the SMF for the program in the JCL pgm=.

Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-08-19 Thread Ed Gould
--- On Wed, 8/19/09, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: SNIP--- That's true, but if you've got a real PIG of a subroutine that's invoked via LINK, etc. the CPU time will be accounted as part of the main program's CPU time. Not necessarity a good picture,

Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-08-18 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
Hi, I got the question how frequently programmes are fetched, and then how much CPU they consume. This in order to put together kind of a hit parade of big CPU consumers then tackle their tuning. RMF can't help me while Monitor I and Monitor III provide long-term data collection about system

Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-08-18 Thread Lizette Koehler
Do you have STROBE or MXG or MICS? SAS? Lizette Hi, I got the question how frequently programmes are fetched, and then how much CPU they consume. This in order to put together kind of a hit parade of big CPU consumers then tackle their tuning. RMF can't help me while Monitor I and Monitor

Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-08-18 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
I will find out with my (new) customer, Lizette. thanks, JV - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van : Lizette Koehler [mailto:stars...@mindspring.com] Verzonden : dinsdag , augustus 18, 2009 10:36 PM Aan : IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Onderwerp : Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs? Do you

Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-08-18 Thread Staller, Allan
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jan Vanbrabant Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Where to find statistics for fetched programs? Hi, I got the question how frequently programmes are fetched, and then how much CPU

Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-08-18 Thread Chris Craddock
ISTR that Peter Relson had a module fetch monitor tool that he made available on an as is/no warranty basis. He might chime in if he's still paying attention on ibm-main. -- This email might be from the artist formerly known as CC (or not) You be the judge.

Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-08-18 Thread Joel Wolpert
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 4:25 PM Subject: Where to find statistics for fetched programs? Hi, I got the question how frequently programmes are fetched, and then how much CPU they consume. This in order to put together kind of a hit parade of big CPU consumers then tackle their tuning. RMF

Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-08-18 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip- Using SMF30 subtype 4 Calculate top 100 cpu consuming steps (Total of TCB/SRB) by program name (EXEC PGM=) over some period of time. Add any appropriate filters and retry. E.G. IEBGENER - IBM code, can't do much about it in the

Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs?

2009-08-18 Thread Joel Wolpert
: www.perfconsultant.com - Original Message - From: Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:28 PM Subject: Re: Where to find statistics for fetched programs? ---snip