Re: zEnterprise Use Cases

2012-01-29 Thread Martin Packer
I'm hoping those of us of a certain vintage will find my blog post on the subject resonates: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker/entry/haven_t_we_been_here_before4?lang=en_us Martin Packer, Mainframe Performance Consultant, zChampion Worldwide Banking Center

zEnterprise Use Cases

2012-01-28 Thread Edward Jaffe
The use cases are starting to appear... At the same time IBM unveiled the recent use cases, it also offered some details on zEnterprise and hybrid computing adoption. For example, approximately 100 organizations took zBX cabinets and over 950 blades have been shipped. Last fall that number

Re: zEnterprise Use Cases

2012-01-28 Thread Dave Day
...@phoenixsoftware.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 9:12 AM Subject: zEnterprise Use Cases The use cases are starting to appear... At the same time IBM unveiled the recent use cases, it also offered some details on zEnterprise and hybrid

Re: zEnterprise Use Cases

2012-01-28 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 1/28/2012 7:55 AM, Dave Day wrote: Interesting article Ed. Do you know where the author got his info on the number of new mainframe sites added the last two years? I was under the impression IBM was tight lipped about the number of sites and such. Greg Lotko disclosed these numbers (and

Re: zEnterprise Use Cases

2012-01-28 Thread Al Sherkow
There was a conference call and presentation to Analysts on Thursday. This info is from that call. -- Al Sherkow, I/S Management Strategies, Ltd. Consulting Expertise on WLC Seminars on IBM SW Pricing Voice: +1 414 332-3062 Web: www.sherkow.com

Did early Santa bring anyone a zEnterprise...

2010-12-15 Thread Gabe Goldberg
...and maybe a zBX? If so, and you can share your early experience/success with them, there's likely opportunity to be profiled in mainframe magazines and for IBM, bragging to the world about your brilliance. It's not much work and past profile subjects have liked the results. Vendors, feel

Sept 29-Webcast - Linux Performance on zEnterprise 196

2010-09-22 Thread Pamela Christina - are you going to zExpo ?
of two live calls: 9:00AM or 2:00PM EDT (A replay is planned to be available a few days after the live call.) Title: Linux Performance on zEnterprise 196 Speaker: Martin Kammerer, IBM Boeblingen Programming Laboratory Abstract: This technical webcast is a Linux performance comparison between

Memory v. Storage: What's in a Name? (Was: IBM zEnterprise)

2010-08-03 Thread Timothy Sipples
a retina display on their new iPhone 4. That's a good example of inventing a new term to describe and highlight a distinctive technical feature. To pick another example, the zEnterprise 196 is the first and only server to feature a Redundant Array of Independent Memory (RAIM) subsystem. All memory

Re: Memory v. Storage: What's in a Name? (Was: IBM zEnterprise)

2010-08-03 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
. To pick another example, the zEnterprise 196 is the first and only server to feature a Redundant Array of Independent Memory (RAIM) subsystem. All memory -- er, storage -- on the system is RAIM-protected. RAIM is close to RAID, and that's intentional (I assume). A lot of people know what RAID

Re: Memory v. Storage: What's in a Name? (Was: IBM zEnterprise)

2010-08-03 Thread zMan
example of inventing a new term to describe and highlight a distinctive technical feature. To pick another example, the zEnterprise 196 is the first and only server to feature a Redundant Array of Independent Memory (RAIM) subsystem. All memory -- er, storage -- on the system is RAIM-protected

Re: Memory v. Storage: What's in a Name? (Was: IBM zEnterprise)

2010-08-03 Thread Steve Comstock
Timothy Sipples wrote: I don't remember where I read or heard the story, but I think IBM preferred to use the term storage because memory implied that forgetting is possible. Therefore, to avoid conveying the impression that IBM computers could forget precious information -- or at least to

Re: Memory v. Storage: What's in a Name? (Was: IBM zEnterprise)

2010-08-03 Thread Howard Brazee
On 3 Aug 2010 00:19:10 -0700, timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com (Timothy Sipples) wrote: I don't remember where I read or heard the story, but I think IBM preferred to use the term storage because memory implied that forgetting is possible. Therefore, to avoid conveying the impression that IBM computers

Re: Memory v. Storage: What's in a Name? (Was: IBM zEnterprise)

2010-08-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I don't remember where I read or heard the story, but I think IBM preferred to use the term storage because memory implied that forgetting is possible. Therefore, to avoid conveying the impression that IBM computers could forget precious information -- or at least to suggest that forgetting was

Re: Memory v. Storage: What's in a Name? (Was: IBM zEnterprise)

2010-08-03 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 11:23 -0400, Ted MacNEIL wrote: Ever since I started doing Capacity Planning, in 1981, it was called 'Storage'. Hell, I was still calling it core 'til 1991 - when Ehrman chided me for it. (Like Aldo Cella, I am no slave to fashion.)

Re: Memory v. Storage: What's in a Name? (Was: IBM zEnterprise)

2010-08-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 3310ac9d797ec94db8d89ccabdea47a702a7f...@kl1221tc.cs.ad.klmcorp.net, on 08/03/2010 at 10:33 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com said: If inventing a good name is one thing, reusing it is apparently still better. Well, reusing RAMAC conveyed an image of seek times in excess of

Re: Memory v. Storage: What's in a Name? (Was: IBM zEnterprise)

2010-08-03 Thread Mike Schwab
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:39 AM, David Andrews d...@lists.duda.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 11:23 -0400, Ted MacNEIL wrote: Ever since I started doing Capacity Planning, in 1981,  it was called 'Storage'. Hell, I was still calling it core 'til 1991 - when Ehrman chided me for it.

Re: IBM zEnterprise

2010-08-02 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes: ITYM when did memory become storage. Certainly the use of memory predates the S/360. there was big deal with announcement for 370 virtual memory ... about having to change all virtual memory references to virtual storage references

Re: IBM zEnterprise

2010-08-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 45d79eacefba9b428e3d400e924d36b903bed...@iwdubcormsg007.sci.local, on 07/22/2010 at 01:52 PM, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com said: Oops! Vocabulary time warp. When did Storage become Memory? ITYM when did memory become storage. Certainly the use of memory predates the S/360.

Re: zEnterprise announcement

2010-07-30 Thread R.S.
of systems managed by the zEnterprise Unified Resource Manager. Sounds like sales pitch. A text from PowerPoint slide. What does it mean exactly? The blades are treated as a logical extension of System z, with all firmware synchronized and fully managed by the HMC, As above. and without

Re: zEnterprise announcement

2010-07-30 Thread Phil Smith
R.S. wrote, re zBX: As above. Racks next to my z10 fulfill the same criteria. But they don't for many sites. The fact that the blades are logically behind the z and are managed from the z makes a HUGE difference in the many sites where the distributed and mainframe folks might as well be from

Re: zEnterprise announcement

2010-07-30 Thread john gilmore
Radoslaw Skorupka writes: Edward Jaffe pizse: Is there any *technical* difference between z196 + zBX and z196 + regular power blades? z196+zBX is a trusted system of systems managed by the zEnterprise Unified Resource Manager. Sounds like sales pitch. A text from PowerPoint slide

Re: zEnterprise announcement

2010-07-30 Thread Edward Jaffe
R.S. wrote: Edward Jaffe pisze: z196+zBX is a trusted system of systems managed by the zEnterprise Unified Resource Manager. Sounds like sales pitch. A text from PowerPoint slide. What does it mean exactly? The blades are treated as a logical extension of System z, with all firmware

Re: zEnterprise announcement

2010-07-30 Thread Bob Shannon
Maybe I have a post-retirement second career path as a sales/marketing person? Not a chance. You have too much integrity. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: zEnterprise announcement

2010-07-30 Thread Bill Fairchild
@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: zEnterprise announcement Maybe I have a post-retirement second career path as a sales/marketing person? Not a chance. You have too much integrity. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: zEnterprise announcement

2010-07-30 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/30/2010 10:50:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bshan...@rocketsoftware.com writes: You have too much integrity. Maybe a run for office? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: zEnterprise announcement

2010-07-30 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip-: In a message dated 7/30/2010 10:50:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bshan...@rocketsoftware.com writes: You have too much integrity. Maybe a run for office?

Re: zEnterprise announcement

2010-07-29 Thread Timothy Sipples
John McKown speculates: From what little I understand about the zBX is that the supported software can use all the proprietary interfaces (like the high speed IP transport between xSeries / pSeries / zSeries systems). I would __guess__ that any x86 software OS (*BSD, Linux, Windows, VMWare, ...)

Re: zEnterprise announcement

2010-07-29 Thread R.S.
Timothy Sipples pisze: While the X86 blades are in the Statement of Direction category, there's quite a bit more information already about the Power blades. They are exactly the same PS701 Power blades that are available for IBM's BladeCenter, same AIX, same PowerVM. If you've already got PS701

Re: zEnterprise announcement

2010-07-29 Thread Edward Jaffe
by the zEnterprise Unified Resource Manager. The blades are treated as a logical extension of System z, with all firmware synchronized and fully managed by the HMC, and without the need for performance-robbing firewalls and other security/integrity barriers. I expect future generations will replace

Re: zEnterprise announcement

2010-07-29 Thread Timothy Sipples
Edward Jaffe said it well. To dig a bit deeper, I would recommend looking at the zEnterprise Unified Resource Manager's capabilities in the announcements and redbooks. Also, the zBX supports the IBM System z Smart Analytics Optimizer. The SAO physically consists of some hardware installed

zEnterprise announcement

2010-07-28 Thread Bern VK2KAD
Hi all I'm in the process of absorbing material about the zEnterprise announcement and one thing has me a little bewildered. The zBX will eventually have x86 blades - there is mention that you will be able to run Linux so presumably you will be able to run VMWare. Am I off on a tangent

Re: zEnterprise announcement

2010-07-28 Thread John McKown
On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 11:27 +1000, Bern VK2KAD wrote: Hi all I'm in the process of absorbing material about the zEnterprise announcement and one thing has me a little bewildered. The zBX will eventually have x86 blades - there is mention that you will be able to run Linux so presumably

zEnterprise at SHARE in Boston

2010-07-27 Thread Edward Jaffe
The SHARE MVS Core Technologies Project is sponsoring the following technical presentations surrounding zEnterprise next week at SHARE in Boston. Be there or be square. Session 7585: Evaluating Best Fit Architecture for Customer Workloads on zEnterprise Systems Session 7538: IBM zEnterprise

ZEnterprise

2010-07-26 Thread Ward, Mike S
Hi all, does anyone know if there is a bullet point list that highlight the highlights of the zEnterprise box? == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you

Re: ZEnterprise

2010-07-26 Thread Rich Smrcina
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/hardware/zenterprise/features.html On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote: Hi all, does anyone know if there is a bullet point list that highlight the highlights of the zEnterprise box? == This email

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing

2010-07-23 Thread Riedel, Alexander
Of Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 8:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing First generation, 96 cores First generation of what? To me, the last first generation was the first 64bit machine, the z900. To bad they had

New zEnterprise 196 Hardware

2010-07-23 Thread Anthony Fletcher
I heard an informal comment that the zEnterprise was going to be the most significant announcement since the 360. Wasn't the highest model in the 360/370 range the 195? Maybe z196 is a logical continuation of that? Anyway of the 1 means first, does that mean the next model will be a z296

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware

2010-07-23 Thread Edward Jaffe
Anthony Fletcher wrote: I heard an informal comment that the zEnterprise was going to be the most significant announcement since the 360. Wasn't the highest model in the 360/370 range the 195? Maybe z196 is a logical continuation of that? Anyway of the 1 means first, does that mean the next

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing

2010-07-23 Thread Shane Ginnane
Number of capacity options maybe. Shane ... On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:57:28 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: I'm still trying to figure out where 196 comes from. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware

2010-07-23 Thread R.S.
Anthony Fletcher pisze: I heard an informal comment that the zEnterprise was going to be the most significant announcement since the 360. Wasn't the highest model in the 360/370 range the 195? Maybe z196 is a logical continuation of that? IMHO it is the proof that IBM marketing has no idea

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware

2010-07-23 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote in message news:4c4958c3.4090...@bremultibank.com.pl... Anthony Fletcher pisze: I heard an informal comment that the zEnterprise was going to be the most significant announcement since the 360. Wasn't the highest model in the 360/370 range the 195

Re: IBM zEnterprise

2010-07-23 Thread Jim Elliott, IBM
://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks.nsf/pages/zEnterprise Jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu

Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS?

2010-07-23 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 4:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS? snip

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing

2010-07-23 Thread Stan Weyman
faster... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John P. Baker Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing I have a thought. D2X(196) = C4

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing

2010-07-23 Thread Mark Zelden
[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Field, Alan C. Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 Thursday 5:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing First generation, 96 cores - Original Message - From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware

2010-07-23 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
on the list a bit on a Friday. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 3:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware Anthony Fletcher pisze: I heard an informal

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware

2010-07-23 Thread John P. Baker
Heh! I resemble that remark. John P. Baker -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 10:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware Radoslaw, higher model

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware

2010-07-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Heh! I resemble that remark. So do I! Sort of. Except, my beard hasn't been grey for over 20 years. It's a lighter shade of pale. - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing

2010-07-23 Thread Scott Rowe
I would guess that it means it is the 1st generation of the zEnterprise, and his has a max of 96 cores. Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com 7/22/2010 6:57 PM Shane Ginnane wrote: Oh joy - yet another pricing model from IBM. I still don't understand the last umpteen iterations. I'm

IBM zEnterprise

2010-07-22 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi everyone, I just got back from IBM’s announcement of the next mainframe. It’s called the zEnterprise or z196 or 2817. Up to 80 available CP’s Between 32GB and 3TB of RAIM. Lots of other neat stuff. More information at www.ibm.com/systems/zenterprisehttp://www.ibm.com/systems/zenterprise

Re: IBM zEnterprise

2010-07-22 Thread Erik Janssen
:50 Aan: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Onderwerp: IBM zEnterprise snip It’s called the zEnterprise or z196 or 2817. /snip לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו

zEnterprise - new PoPS?

2010-07-22 Thread McKown, John
I was reading the new Redpiece about the zEnterprise. It had a section which stated the z196 has 110 new instructions in the following catagories: High-word facility Interlocked-access facility Load/Store on condition facility Distinct operands facility Integer to/from floating point

Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS?

2010-07-22 Thread Rich Smrcina
Summary (SA22-7871) On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:25 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I was reading the new Redpiece about the zEnterprise. It had a section which stated the z196 has 110 new instructions in the following catagories: High-word facility Interlocked-access

Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS?

2010-07-22 Thread Stan Weyman
: zEnterprise - new PoPS? According to the product announcement: The following publications will be available at planned availability in the *Library* section of Resource Link: Application Programming Interfaces for Java (API-JAVA)Application Programming Interfaces (SB10-7030)Capacity on Demand User's

Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS?

2010-07-22 Thread McKown, John
I was really excited by the conditional load/store which I guess is similar to the compare and branch instructions. I don't know if they will combine a compare and load/store or do a load/store based on the existing CC from a previous instruction. I remember a RISC processor of some sort where

Re: IBM zEnterprise

2010-07-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:50:15 +0300, GADI wrote: Between 32GB and 3TB of RAIM. Oops! Vocabulary time warp. When did Storage become Memory? Is Redundant array of independent memory (RAIM) much different from ECC? Are modules hot-pluggable? -- gil

zEnterprise

2010-07-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
zBoldly zGoing zWhere zNo-one zHas zGone zBefore! - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the

Re: IBM zEnterprise

2010-07-22 Thread John Eells
Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:50:15 +0300, GADI wrote: Between 32GB and 3TB of RAIM. Oops! Vocabulary time warp. When did Storage become Memory? A while back. I don't recall exactly when but it's been something like five years or longer when discussing real memory...at

zEnterprise Webinar

2010-07-22 Thread Ken Porowski
Interesting, 1650+ users watching (but 433 of them work for IBM). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS?

2010-07-22 Thread Charles Mills
I was picturing perhaps something more like a CS. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS? I was really

Re: IBM zEnterprise

2010-07-22 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IBM zEnterprise On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:50:15 +0300, GADI wrote: Between 32GB and 3TB of RAIM

New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing

2010-07-22 Thread Al Sherkow
Cross Posted (MXG-L, ISVCOSTS, IBM-MAIN) Today IBM announced the zEnterprise 196, a new mainframe system available in September that will also offer a BladeCenter extension available in November. The US announcement letter is 110-170. The z196 will also have a new pricing metric Advanced

Re: zEnterprise

2010-07-22 Thread Mark Hammond
I'm a zSuperHero with zNeither zPowers, nor zMotivation! zKimota! (Sorry, couldn't help myself.) Mark Hammond d. 214-615-4695 -Original Message- From: Ted MacNEIL [mailto:eamacn...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: zEnterprise zBoldly

Re: zEnterprise

2010-07-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
markhamm...@ateras.com Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:29:54 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: zEnterprise I'm a zSuperHero with zNeither zPowers, nor zMotivation! zKimota

Re: IBM zEnterprise

2010-07-22 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-07-22 19:46, John Eells pisze: Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:50:15 +0300, GADI wrote: Between 32GB and 3TB of RAIM. Oops! Vocabulary time warp. When did Storage become Memory? A while back. I don't recall exactly when but it's been something like five years or

Re: zEnterprise - new PoPS?

2010-07-22 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip--- I was really excited by the conditional load/store which I guess is similar to the compare and branch instructions. I don't know if they will combine a compare and load/store or do a load/store based on the

Re: zEnterprise

2010-07-22 Thread Rick Fochtman
: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: zEnterprise zBoldly zGoing zWhere zNo-one zHas zGone zBefore! - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! ---unsnip-- Could boh of you try

Re: zEnterprise

2010-07-22 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip- Touche! And, Nyuk, Nyuk, Nyuk! Whoop! Whoop! Whoop! (3 stooges, sci-fi, comic book geek since 1962) Maturity hasn't entered the equation in so long. (Dennis Leary sound alike)

Re: zEnterprise

2010-07-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Are you sure you didn't mean Timothy Leary? I meant the one singing I'm an *sshol* - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing

2010-07-22 Thread Shane Ginnane
Oh joy - yet another pricing model from IBM. I still don't understand the last umpteen iterations. At least it keeps folks like Al in a job. Shane ... On Fri, Jul 23rd, 2010 at 4:20 AM, Al Sherkow wrote: The z196 will also have a new pricing metric Advanced Workload License Charges

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing

2010-07-22 Thread Edward Jaffe
Shane Ginnane wrote: Oh joy - yet another pricing model from IBM. I still don't understand the last umpteen iterations. I'm still trying to figure out where 196 comes from. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing

2010-07-22 Thread Field, Alan C.
First generation, 96 cores - Original Message - From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu Jul 22 17:57:28 2010 Subject: Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing Shane Ginnane wrote: Oh joy

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing

2010-07-22 Thread Norman Hollander on DesertWiz
Really? Want to say how we got a z9-109? Just curious. zNorman -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Field, Alan C. Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 Thursday 5:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: New zEnterprise 196

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing

2010-07-22 Thread Field, Alan C.
I don't know that one. The 1 96 came from an IBMer during a discussion recently. - Original Message - From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu Jul 22 20:22:08 2010 Subject: Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC

Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing

2010-07-22 Thread John P. Baker
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: New zEnterprise 196 Hardware, AWLC and IBM Software Pricing I'm still trying to figure out where 196 comes from. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http

IBM zEnterprise 196 mainframe due July 22 • The Register

2010-07-20 Thread McKown, John
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/19/z196_mainframe_blade_interconnect/ quote As El Reg already reportedhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/14/ibm_system_z11_preview/, the System z11 machine will sport 96 cores and give about 80 of them over to running either z/OS or Linux in a single