Re: ZFS problems

2010-08-17 Thread Dazzo, Matt
, 2010 6:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ZFS problems You should mount the sysres zFS files read only (as you should have been doing with HFS also). But also make sure you have this in your zFS parms: romount_recovery=on/* see APAR OA22351 */ Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting

Re: ZFS problems

2010-08-17 Thread Scott Rowe
they are mounted? Tks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 6:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ZFS problems You should mount the sysres zFS files read only (as you should have been

Re: ZFS problems

2010-08-17 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
| READ) Jon L. Veilleux veilleu...@aetna.com (860) 636-9179 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dazzo, Matt Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ZFS problems

Re: ZFS problems

2010-08-17 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
, 2010 6:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ZFS problems You should mount the sysres zFS files read only (as you should have been doing with HFS also). But also make sure you have this in your zFS parms: romount_recovery=on/* see APAR OA22351 */ Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden

Re: ZFS problems

2010-08-17 Thread Dazzo, Matt
Can this be done to ROOT without system interruption? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Veilleux, Jon L Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ZFS problems You can use the ISHELL pull

Re: ZFS problems

2010-08-17 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
: ZFS problems Can this be done to ROOT without system interruption? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Veilleux, Jon L Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ZFS problems You can use

Re: ZFS problems

2010-05-26 Thread Barbara Nitz
Again, a z/OS 1.11 change, right? Right. I just had my 1.11 education called Technical University in Berlin. :-) If you're sharing HFSs and haven't yet converted to zFS, you may want to wait until you're at least 1.11 to avoid the two rolling IPLs or the sysplex outage to get your zFS migrated to

Re: ZFS problems

2010-05-25 Thread Barbara Nitz
When zFS file systems are mounted R/O in a shared file system environment, read requests don't have to be function shipped to the owning system. But the same applies to HFS. Is there another performance benefit you are referring to? The cache in zFS maybe. There is no such (synchronized) cache

Re: ZFS problems

2010-05-25 Thread Shane Ginnane
Fancy that - Barbara being cranky with the support centre who'da thunked ;-) Everyone in this discussion (except me) is probably a reasonable sized shop with a reasonable sized 'plex. I still say go zFS - HFS has had its day. Shane ... On Tue, May 25th, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Barbara Nitz

Re: ZFS problems

2010-05-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 25 May 2010 06:23:41 -0500, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote: When zFS file systems are mounted R/O in a shared file system environment, read requests don't have to be function shipped to the owning system. But the same applies to HFS. Is there another performance benefit you are

Re: ZFS problems

2010-05-24 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On Sun, 23 May 2010 11:35:27 -0500, Mark Zelden mzel...@flash.net wrote: When zFS file systems are mounted R/O in a shared file system environment, read requests don't have to be function shipped to the owning system. But the same applies to HFS. Is there another performance benefit you are

Re: ZFS problems

2010-05-24 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 24 May 2010 16:05:03 -0500, Arthur Gutowski aguto...@ford.com wrote: Has anyone out there quantified the so-called performance benefits of ZFS in R/O mode - outside of the IBM labs? On Sun, 23 May 2010 11:35:27 -0500, Mark Zelden mzel...@flash.net wrote: When zFS file systems are

Re: ZFS problems

2010-05-23 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On Sun, 23 May 2010 15:12:44 +1000, Shane Ginnane ibm- m...@tpg.com.au wrote: In the unlikely event a filesystem is unmounted uncleanly *AND* the subsequent mount is changed from R/W to R/O, the decision not to run the journal should be the customers. Has anyone out there quantified the

Re: ZFS problems

2010-05-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Sun, 23 May 2010 08:51:15 -0500, Arthur Gutowski aguto...@ford.com wrote: On Sun, 23 May 2010 15:12:44 +1000, Shane Ginnane ibm- m...@tpg.com.au wrote: In the unlikely event a filesystem is unmounted uncleanly *AND* the subsequent mount is changed from R/W to R/O, the decision not to run the

ZFS problems

2010-05-22 Thread R.S.
Recently I first time IPLed z/OS 1.11. I followed IBM's recommendations and completely switched to ZFS filesystem (this is default in ServerPac). So long so good. However, possibly after some unclean system close (this is sandbox system) I had serious problems with IPL. OMVS could not

Re: ZFS problems

2010-05-22 Thread Shane Ginnane
Radoslaw, this sounds like journal (log) replay issues. I guessing you had the root mounted read/write. You *really* don't want to be doing that - even on test systems, remount as r/w only for the time you need it (say for mkdir). zFS has had its share of latch contension issues, but I'd lean

Re: ZFS problems

2010-05-22 Thread Mark Zelden
You should mount the sysres zFS files read only (as you should have been doing with HFS also). But also make sure you have this in your zFS parms: romount_recovery=on/* see APAR OA22351 */ Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS

Re: ZFS problems

2010-05-22 Thread Shane Ginnane
You have to wonder why this is even a consideration. The journal should be run automagically unless the customer chooses not to. In the unlikely event a filesystem is unmounted uncleanly *AND* the subsequent mount is changed from R/W to R/O, the decision not to run the journal should be the