Re: ZIP and FTP

2011-05-03 Thread Timothy Sipples
Just to offer one more data point on the hazards of placing PCs anywhere in the loop if avoidable, which in this case it most definitely is, consider this case from South Korea: http://mainframe.typepad.com/blog/2011/04/maybe-its-time-for-more-mainframe-solutions.html - - - - - Timothy Sipples

Re: ZIP and FTP

2011-05-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In banlktimns6vqz5o1p3rfycqcwi-n0fv...@mail.gmail.com, on 04/28/2011 at 12:32 PM, jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com said: we dont have shared JES or sysplexed environment. You don't need either, just an IP connection. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO

Re: ZIP and FTP

2011-05-02 Thread Timothy Sipples
And to expand in another direction here, file transfer (generically) is, in my humble opinion, vastly over-used as a means to lash two systems together. One gating question has to be asked: is the business process that this (new) file transfer will support real time or batch in nature? If the

Re: ZIP and FTP

2011-04-29 Thread Timothy Sipples
Yet another option is to establish an IPSec connection between machines and then use NFS sharing across that link. That would be the most secure option (among those mentioned) and eliminate the security risks associated with using PCs in the loop. The NFS can be bidirectional, with both z/OSes

ZIP and FTP

2011-04-28 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi, I have few REXX codes converted to Load modules. Is there a sample JCL to pack the Load module and ftp it to PC. Again i want to run the same packed FTP'd file to another LPAR. Also i am looking for a sample JCL for unpacking these Load modules. Regards, Jags

Re: ZIP and FTP

2011-04-28 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-04-28 08:16, jagadishan perumal pisze: Hi, I have few REXX codes converted to Load modules. Is there a sample JCL to pack the Load module and ftp it to PC. Again i want to run the same packed FTP'd file to another LPAR. Also i am looking for a sample JCL for unpacking these Load

Re: ZIP and FTP

2011-04-28 Thread jagadishan perumal
thanks a lot for your time. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:10 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.plwrote: W dniu 2011-04-28 08:16, jagadishan perumal pisze: Hi, I have few REXX codes converted to Load modules. Is there a sample JCL to pack the Load module and ftp it to PC. Again i want to

Re: ZIP and FTP

2011-04-28 Thread Gibney, Dave
You should be able to ftp z/OS to z/OS. Why stop on a PC? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of jagadishan perumal Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: ZIP and FTP Hi, I have few

Re: ZIP and FTP

2011-04-28 Thread jagadishan perumal
Of jagadishan perumal Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: ZIP and FTP Hi, I have few REXX codes converted to Load modules. Is there a sample JCL to pack the Load module and ftp it to PC. Again i want to run the same packed FTP'd file

Re: ZIP and FTP

2011-04-28 Thread Gibney, Dave
: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ZIP and FTP Dave, we dont have shared JES or sysplexed environment. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote: You should be able to ftp z/OS to z/OS. Why stop on a PC

Re: ZIP and FTP

2011-04-28 Thread jagadishan perumal
Of jagadishan perumal Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ZIP and FTP Dave, we dont have shared JES or sysplexed environment. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote: You should be able to ftp z/OS to z/OS. Why stop

Re: ZIP and FTP

2011-04-28 Thread jagadishan perumal
perumal Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ZIP and FTP Dave, we dont have shared JES or sysplexed environment. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote: You should be able to ftp z/OS to z/OS. Why stop

Re: ZIP and FTP

2011-04-28 Thread John McKown
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 14:03 +0530, jagadishan perumal wrote: Dave, Some of the mainframe server IP are from a different location. Firewall opening from their end is not allowed too. So I just need these Load modules as zipped, so that we can forward this to anyone. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at

Re: ZIP and FTP

2011-04-28 Thread jagadishan perumal
John, our shops Z/os version is OS 1.6. My only requirement is to just recieve the mainframe files and save it to XMIT manager. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:23 PM, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote: On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 14:03 +0530, jagadishan perumal wrote: Dave, Some of the mainframe

Re: ZIP and FTP

2011-04-28 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
jagadishan perumal wrote: our shops Z/os version is OS 1.6. My only requirement is to just recieve the mainframe files and save it to XMIT manager. Try DFDSS dump to dump all your datasets. FTP that dump dataset in binary format to your destination. Then you can do a RESTORE. Some of the

Re: ZIP and FTP

2011-04-28 Thread Lloyd Fuller
@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu, April 28, 2011 4:53:05 AM Subject: Re: ZIP and FTP On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 14:03 +0530, jagadishan perumal wrote: Dave, Some of the mainframe server IP are from a different location. Firewall opening from their end is not allowed too. So I just need these Load modules as zipped, so

Re: ZIP and FTP

2011-04-28 Thread Dirceu Bimonti Ivo
List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re: ZIP and FTP John, our shops Z/os version is OS 1.6. My only requirement is to just recieve the mainframe files and save it to XMIT manager. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:23 PM, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote: On Thu, 2011

Re: ZIP and FTP

2011-04-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 06:15:31 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Try DFDSS dump to dump all your datasets. FTP that dump dataset in binary format to your destination. Then you can do a RESTORE. Isn't DFDSS RECFM=U? That doesn't transfer well via a non-z intermediary. Some of the mainframe server

Re: ZIP and FTP

2011-04-28 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Paul Gilmartin wrote: Try DFDSS dump to dump all your datasets. FTP that dump dataset in binary format to your destination. Then you can do a RESTORE. Isn't DFDSS RECFM=U? That doesn't transfer well via a non-z intermediary. Yup, plus LRECL=0. The OP will find that out if he doesn't want to do

Testing (was: ZIP and FTP)

2011-04-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
(Of course I'm pleased to see the LISTSERV up and running this morning.) On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:42:37 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Isn't DFDSS RECFM=U? That doesn't transfer well via a non-z intermediary. Yup, plus LRECL=0. The OP will find that out if he doesn't want to do a direct z to

Re: ZIP and FTP

2011-04-28 Thread Kirk Wolf
FWIW, there is a sample Java class (com.ibm.jzos.sample.ZipDatasets) provided by the JZOS toolkit, which is part of the z/OS Java SDKs, that allows you to zip one or more text datasets and PDSs into a zip file. If you have a zAPP engine, it would take advantage of it. The JZOS samples (including

Re: Testing (was: ZIP and FTP)

2011-04-28 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Paul Gilmartin wrote: Many of the suggestions here appear to be bad (but I haven't tested them all.) It would be a courtesy if contributors would test their suggestions before they post them here. My replies were based on what little I know and actually used. If you could be very kind to

Re: ZIP and FTP

2011-04-28 Thread Sebastian Welton
I do this all the time, XMIT to a file, FTP down to a server (remember use BINARY), FTP back up to a mainframe (remember to use BINARY, LRECL(80) and RECFM(FB) and then receive. Sometimes I have to do a lot of datasets so a quick and dirty rexx which runs in batch and uses a PDS member as input: