Re: ZOS 1.13 SMPTABL Mystery

2012-04-26 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:24:57 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In 4f96b36c.3000...@acm.org, on 04/24/2012 at 09:06 AM, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org said: SMP/E dialogs do not work that way. Users do not share the same variables directly, they share the same list of named maintenance

Re: ZOS 1.13 SMPTABL Mystery

2012-04-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5616521949719829.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@bama.ua.edu, on 04/26/2012 at 07:10 AM, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com said: The state information that is stored in SMPTABL is not the state of SYSMODs. It is the state of the Sysmod Management dialog. I understand that; it is precisely

Re: ZOS 1.13 SMPTABL Mystery

2012-04-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4f96b36c.3000...@acm.org, on 04/24/2012 at 09:06 AM, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org said: SMP/E dialogs do not work that way. Users do not share the same variables directly, they share the same list of named maintenance projects Is that a new function? I don't recall ever seeing named

Re: ZOS 1.13 SMPTABL Mystery

2012-04-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4f915489.3060...@us.ibm.com, on 04/20/2012 at 08:20 AM, Kurt Quackenbush ku...@us.ibm.com said: The intent is to allow users to share workload and pickup an install process from a coworker as Joel clearly explained. Actually, it wasn't clear. If I have to pick up an install process from a

Re: ZOS 1.13 SMPTABL Mystery

2012-04-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1009339904279500.wa.markmzelden@bama.ua.edu, on 04/20/2012 at 08:34 AM, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com said: What problems have you run into when sharing? It's been a few years, but I vaguely recall issues when two people were concurrently installing service to the same targets, for

Re: ZOS 1.13 SMPTABL Mystery

2012-04-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4f90d295.6000...@acm.org, on 04/19/2012 at 10:05 PM, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org said: If you have multiple people who might have to back each other up and be able to take over and eventually complete a maintenance project started by another using SMP/E ISPF dialogs, then they had better

Re: ZOS 1.13 SMPTABL Mystery

2012-04-24 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 04/23/2012 04:35 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In4f90d295.6000...@acm.org, on 04/19/2012 at 10:05 PM, Joel C. Ewingjcew...@acm.org said: If you have multiple people who might have to back each other up and be able to take over and eventually complete a maintenance project started

Re: ZOS 1.13 SMPTABL Mystery

2012-04-20 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
The only explanation given for installation-wide is SMP/E uses this table data set to save process status information for the SYSMOD management dialogs. What problems occur[1] if you don't use a shared SMPTABL?I've run into problems when it's shared. The intent is to allow users to share

Re: ZOS 1.13 SMPTABL Mystery

2012-04-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 19 Apr 2012 09:16:51 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In 4f8eb53d.9000...@us.ibm.com, on 04/18/2012 at 08:36 AM, Kurt Quackenbush ku...@us.ibm.com said:

Re: ZOS 1.13 SMPTABL Mystery

2012-04-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4f8eb53d.9000...@us.ibm.com, on 04/18/2012 at 08:36 AM, Kurt Quackenbush ku...@us.ibm.com said: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/gimusr51/3.6.3?SHELF=gim2bk90DT=20110811181158 The only explanation given for installation-wide is SMP/E uses this table data set to

Re: ZOS 1.13 SMPTABL Mystery

2012-04-19 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 04/19/2012 08:16 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In4f8eb53d.9000...@us.ibm.com, on 04/18/2012 at 08:36 AM, Kurt Quackenbushku...@us.ibm.com said: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/gimusr51/3.6.3?SHELF=gim2bk90DT=20110811181158 The only explanation given

Re: ZOS 1.13 SMPTABL Mystery

2012-04-18 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
Presumably an output PDS for file tailoring within the SMP/E dialogs. You might want to make it a per-user data set. No no no. SMPTABL is an ISPF table data set intended to be shared by all your SMP/E dialog users.

Re: ZOS 1.13 SMPTABL Mystery

2012-04-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4c9510dff1800349929e187eaf4a7cc214ac73d...@exchange.classic.pchad.com, on 04/13/2012 at 11:46 AM, Dazzo, Matt mda...@pch.com said: I have installed Z1.13 and it's up and running in our test lpar. Seems dsn= SYS1.SMP.SMPTABL is not on the new res volume. I checked the CPAC alloc and restore

ZOS 1.13 SMPTABL Mystery

2012-04-13 Thread Dazzo, Matt
I have installed Z1.13 and it's up and running in our test lpar. Seems dsn= SYS1.SMP.SMPTABL is not on the new res volume. I checked the CPAC alloc and restore jobs and can't find it in there either. Searched the migration guide and no mention of it there either. Anyone else run into this or

Re: ZOS 1.13 SMPTABL Mystery

2012-04-13 Thread McKown, John
Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dazzo, Matt Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 10:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: ZOS 1.13 SMPTABL Mystery I have installed Z1.13 and it's up

Re: ZOS 1.13 SMPTABL Mystery

2012-04-13 Thread Dazzo, Matt
] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 11:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ZOS 1.13 SMPTABL Mystery I've never heard of that data set. Is it an ISPF table data set? Would something like GIM.SGIMTENU / SYS1.GIM.SGIMTENU / SYS1.SGIMTENU be what you need? I would guess SYS1