On Sun, 9 Jan 2011 20:54:20 -0500, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
At 9:17 AM -0500 on 01/09/2011, Bob Rutledge wrote about Re: can I
dynamically increase tso size:
- Allocate a dataset RECFM=VB, LRECL=27000
- Populate it with 75,000 5-byte records (one data byte)
You'll end up with a seven-track
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:39:01 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote:
Your vote doesn't count, neither does Bob's or mine.
Only the computer's vote matters. It works the way it works.
No. Often the computer can be outvoted by the IS executives'
wallets. It happens; it's discussed here, regardless that the
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 10:04:50 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:39:01 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote:
Your vote doesn't count, neither does Bob's or mine.
Only the computer's vote matters. It works the way it works.
No. Often the computer can be outvoted by the IS executives'
Rutledge wrote about Re: can I
dynamically increase tso size:
- Allocate a dataset RECFM=VB, LRECL=27000
- Populate it with 75,000 5-byte records (one data byte)
You'll end up with a seven-track dataset which is too big for the ISPF
editor.
Why is it too big? I'd assume it was due to the 40byte per
Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
At 08:22 -0500 on 01/08/2011, Bob Rutledge wrote about Re: can I
dynamically increase tso size:
Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
At 15:13 -0500 on 01/07/2011, Bob Rutledge wrote about Re: can I
dynamically increase tso size:
Krishnan wrote:
Hi All
I am having
At 9:17 AM -0500 on 01/09/2011, Bob Rutledge wrote about Re: can I
dynamically increase tso size:
Here's an example, admittedly a pathological one:
- Allocate a dataset RECFM=VB, LRECL=27000
- Populate it with 75,000 5-byte records (one data byte)
You'll end up with a seven-track dataset
At 10:09 PM -0500 on 01/08/2011, Gerhard Postpischil wrote about Re:
can I dynamically increase tso size:
On 1/8/2011 8:55 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
That formula seems to assume RECFM=FB. Since the RECFM is VB,
the formula would seem to me to actually be (Number of
records*40) + File
Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
At 15:13 -0500 on 01/07/2011, Bob Rutledge wrote about Re: can I
dynamically increase tso size:
Krishnan wrote:
Hi All
I am having a similar problem. I am unable to edit a dataset and
instead am getting the 'browse substituted message'
The ISPF edit
On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 08:22:33 -0500, Bob Rutledge wrote:
Try it.
Or search the archives of ISPF-L where you will find...
The amount of storage required by the ISPF editor approximates to the
following equation:
(Number of records * (40 + record length))
Note that sites can limit the amount of
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Hi All
I
At 08:22 -0500 on 01/08/2011, Bob Rutledge wrote about Re: can I
dynamically increase tso size:
Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
At 15:13 -0500 on 01/07/2011, Bob Rutledge wrote about Re: can I
dynamically increase tso size:
Krishnan wrote:
Hi All
I am having a similar problem. I am unable
On 1/8/2011 8:55 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
That formula seems to assume RECFM=FB. Since the RECFM is VB,
the formula would seem to me to actually be (Number of
records*40) + File-Size. Since the average file size is 33 bytes
not 5000 bytes, that FB formula yields 70MB (which is also what
my
Hi All
I am having a similar problem. I am unable to edit a dataset and instead am
getting the 'browse substituted message'
The ISPF edit was attempted for a dataset with following characteristics
- RECFM=VB, LRECL=5000.
- DSORG=PS
- BLOCKSIZE=27998
- It's total size is 31MB and has 1003372
When you login in the tso screen has a size parm. You can try to increase the
size, but you may be limited to the size you can put in , but it is worth a try
Mace
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1. Your site may have set a maximum region size that overrides the
setting on your tso login screen.
2. The temporary file that edit uses until you save your edits may be
too small. Do a 3.4 on datasets starting with your userid while not
editing a file, then again while successfully editing some
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Hi All
I am having a similar problem. I am unable to edit
IIRC, this can also be controlled via the ISPCONFG process. In our shop we
throw our users into BROWSE if the file is too large.
The suggestions of logging on with a large region size (if allowed through your
security product) or allocating a large file for temp are good.
Lizette
2. The temporary file that edit uses until you save your edits may be too
small.
I may be wrong, but I always thought that ISPF EDIT used memory only, except
when submitting jobs.
Of course, it's also been over 20 years since I directly supported ISPF.
Does anybody know?
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Ted MacNEIL
IIRC, this can also be controlled via the ISPCONFG process.
In our shop we throw our users into BROWSE if the file is too large.
That, again, supports my recollection that EDIT does not use disk for managing
files.
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:09:52 -0600, Krishnan wrote:
I am unable to edit a dataset and instead am
getting the 'browse substituted message'
The ISPF edit was attempted for a dataset with following characteristics
- RECFM=VB, LRECL=5000.
Edit/View does not support that LRECL. Not sure what the
will be substituted instead. To allow edit to
use as much storage as is available, set the value to 0. The default is 0.
Lizette
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:54:41 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote:
Edit/View does not support that LRECL. Not sure what the maximum is,
but IIRC it used to be 256 bytes.
Sorry, I should check before I post. The above is incorrect.
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On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 13:09:52 -0600
Krishnan wrote:
Hi All
I am having a similar problem. I am unable to edit a dataset and instead am
getting the 'browse substituted message'
The ISPF edit was attempted for a dataset with following characteristics
- RECFM=VB, LRECL=5000.
- DSORG=PS
- BLOCKSIZE=27998
- It's total size is
2. The temporary file that edit uses until you save your edits may be
too small.
I may be wrong, but I always thought that ISPF EDIT used memory only,
except when submitting jobs.
Of course, it's also been over 20 years since I directly supported ISPF.
Does anybody know?
Per the ISPF Edit help
While the active copy of data being edited IS kept in memory, if edit
recovery is ON, when the first change is made the original data and
any subsequent changes are also kept in an external edit recovery BACKUP
dataset until a SAVE is done and the associated edit pending state data
is kept in
program.
hernandez
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From: Krishnan vijayan.krish...@21st.com
Subject: Re: can I dynamically increase tso size
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Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 2:09 PM
Hi All
I am having a similar problem. I am unable
At 15:13 -0500 on 01/07/2011, Bob Rutledge wrote about Re: can I
dynamically increase tso size:
Krishnan wrote:
Hi All
I am having a similar problem. I am unable to edit a dataset and
instead am getting the 'browse substituted message'
The ISPF edit was attempted for a dataset
Larry Macioce wrote:
I need to work on a file and I've tried the 8192k I am allowed but the file
still
comes up in browse mode Can I change it and how large can I change it
Sounds like a good time to install REVIEW from Greg Price. It will handle any
size file and I understand one can also
20, 2010 4:54 AM
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Larry Macioce wrote:
I need to work on a file and I've tried the 8192k I am allowed but the
file
still
comes up in browse mode Can I change it and how large can I change it
Sounds like
Ted MacNEIL wrote:
I don't think security policies should have any bearing on the TSO Region
size. Just because it is something they can administer doesn't mean they
should.
Agreed. Auditors will agree on this too. (hopefully... ;-D )
As I've already stated, that is my position, as a
Larry Macioce wrote:
I need to work on a file and I've tried the 8192k I am allowed but the file
still
comes up in browse mode Can I change it and how large can I change it
Ask your TSO support to enlarge it for you. Failing that, ask your RACF
support to increase your SIZE and MAXSIZE for
On 09/17/2010 10:19 AM, Larry Macioce wrote:
I need to work on a file and I've tried the 8192k I am allowed but the file
still
comes up in browse mode
Can I change it and how large can I change it
thanks
mace
ISPF Editor will by default use storage above 16Mi when available. When
you are
Since I'm more of a RACF guy, you may have difficulty to come up with a good
excuse... ;-D
Why are you so concerned about whether somebody should have a larger region
size, or not.
It's a hold-over from before memory became virtual and the small real memories
of the 1970's 1980's.
With
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Since I'm more of a RACF guy, you may have difficulty to come up with a
good
I don't think security policies should have any bearing on the TSO Region
size. Just because it is something they can administer doesn't mean they
should.
As I've already stated, that is my position, as a capacity analyst.
But then, Elardus did have a smiley face on that sentence.
I caught
I need to work on a file and I've tried the 8192k I am allowed but the file
still
comes up in browse mode
Can I change it and how large can I change it
thanks
mace
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thanks mace
of the dataset in question.
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On 17 September 2010 14:24, Schwarz, Barry A barry.a.schw...@boeing.com wrote:
Your TSO region size does not affect whether the system will edit a dataset.
Uh...
If the dataset is too large, you will abend when you run out of virtual
memory.
Sure, but it runs out because the TSO region
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