Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-13 Thread Ron Hawkins
Mark, I'm suitably impressed. You can do this with some of the database reorg software, but they aren't part of the base OS. I can understand some of the OP's frustration now. Ron > > If it was a file on a Linux system using LVM, I could move the physical > extents that hold that file anywher

Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-12 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 4/12/2011 at 11:18 AM, Ron Hawkins >>> wrote: > I would like to > know what other OS supports transparently moving an open file without > disrupting the application that has it open. If it was a file on a Linux system using LVM, I could move the physical extents that hold that file any

Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-12 Thread Mike Schwab
If you take frequent checkpoints, you could cancel, back out to the last check point, then restart on another system. On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:47 AM, McKown, John wrote: > I guess zero downtime would require that all "server" type functionality be > duplexed on multiple images and that said se

Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-12 Thread McKown, John
e- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:54 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set > > >The IBM rep should have said: "

Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-12 Thread Ron Hawkins
ginal Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of > Michael Klaeschen > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 10:26 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set > > Ravi, thanks fo

Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>The IBM rep should have said: "The z means zero __unplanned__ downtime.". I am not aware of any OS on any platform which does not require an occasional re-initialization (reboot, IPL, whatever I think you've misunderstood IBM's intent. With Parallel SYSPLEX, shared everything, IMSPLEX, and/or DB2

Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-12 Thread Staller, Allan
z/OS TCPIP will work just fine with only the "default root" (the root that is mounted if there is an error in BPXPRM**). It also supports a "altroot" file system. This sounds to me like a planning/data placement failure, not a sysplex design point failure. I was told a "Softek" product may prov

Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-12 Thread Rob Schramm
Depending on the filesystem .. you should be able to at least minimize the downtime... and not require an IPL. OMVS is restartable. Just create a new filesystem/dataset, copy everything into it, stop the application and swap the new one for the old one, restart app, copy any missing files from old

Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-12 Thread John McKown
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 07:26 +0200, Michael Klaeschen wrote: > Ravi, thanks for your reply. I was told a "Softek" product may provide > this function as part of data migration support. But no, we just have z/OS > and a couple of Redbooks, Whitepapers and the ringing sound of IBM sales > represent

Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-11 Thread Michael Klaeschen
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Re: moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-11 Thread Ravi Gaur
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moving extends for allocated VSAM linear data set

2011-04-11 Thread Michael Klaeschen
Hi, we have a VSAM linear data set which is allocated read/write to an ASID. Now, the extents have to be moved to another VolSer without affecting the ASID. How to do? IDCAMS ALTER ADD/REMOVEVOLUMES or REPRO do not seem to work for VolSers with allocated extents that are opened. Thank you, chee