Re: performance differences between java versions

2011-07-14 Thread Scott Chapman
At the risk of taking this thread too far afield: Well there's always room for personal opinion for which tools you use. Some people may prefer a Bosch driver over a Makita and others will happily pay for the Festool. Any of them will put screws in boards. But some hands will prefer differe

Re: performance differences between java versions

2011-07-13 Thread Timothy Sipples
Why are you (re)loading Java? Hypothetically, if you received a new version of CICS that took 2 seconds longer to load but provided every application a 20% CPU reduction during execution, would you take that trade? I certainly would. Third digit point releases in Java have delivered substantial p

Re: performance differences between java versions

2011-07-13 Thread Ed Finnell
Think it was the CEO of pets.com on Bloomberg yesterday saying it used to cost $5M to deploy a server. Know they can lease space on the 'cloud' for $100 per month. In a message dated 7/13/2011 7:36:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time, mark.jac...@custserv.com writes: maintain legacy programs,

Re: performance differences between java versions

2011-07-13 Thread Staller, Allan
http://www.cmg.org/measureit/issues/mit78/m_78_5.pdf It does take quite a bit longer to load the newer versions, and the 64 bit take longer to initially load than the 31bit ones, but the actually "execution" of "your" user Java code under the newer versions is quite a bit faster, especially betw

Re: performance differences between java versions

2011-07-13 Thread Mark Jacobs
apman Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 7:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: performance differences between java versions As somebody else stated, I wouldn't draw any conclusions from just running java -version. A couple thoughts though: 1) Java 1.4 is really pretty old. Java 6 came o

Re: performance differences between java versions

2011-07-13 Thread Schneck.Glenn
between java versions As somebody else stated, I wouldn't draw any conclusions from just running java -version. A couple thoughts though: 1) Java 1.4 is really pretty old. Java 6 came out in something like 2006 or 2007, IIRC. I believe Java 7 is due soon. It's unfortunate that Java doe

Re: performance differences between java versions

2011-07-13 Thread Scott Chapman
As somebody else stated, I wouldn't draw any conclusions from just running java -version. A couple thoughts though: 1) Java 1.4 is really pretty old. Java 6 came out in something like 2006 or 2007, IIRC. I believe Java 7 is due soon. It's unfortunate that Java doesn't do as good a job of ma

Re: performance differences between java versions

2011-07-12 Thread Brian Westerman
It does take quite a bit longer to load the newer versions, and the 64 bit take longer to initially load than the 31bit ones, but the actually "execution" of "your" user Java code under the newer versions is quite a bit faster, especially between 1.4 and 1.6. There is a doc on the IBM site (I c

Re: performance differences between java versions

2011-07-12 Thread Scott Rowe
I'm no Java expert, but I would say that isn't a valid performance test in any way, it is more a test of how long it takes to load and initialize the Java environment. I wouldn't put any value at all in those numbers. On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Matan Cohen wrote: > Hi , > I have Java 1.4

performance differences between java versions

2011-07-12 Thread Matan Cohen
Hi , I have Java 1.4 and Java 6.0 installed on my Z/os 1.10. I did a simple test to check if there is performance differences between this version : performing 'java -version' on J6 takes 7-8 seconds: java version "1.6.0" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build pmz3160sr8fp1ifix-20100924_01(SR8 F