Re: remote support questions - curiousity

2006-11-18 Thread Clark Morris
On 12 Nov 2006 18:14:20 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: much snipped These were just some thoughts as I sit here waiting for an IPL to install new maintenance. I must do my magic after the production system (we only have one) is down. I'm using our sandbox to do the magic because I

Re: remote support questions - curiousity

2006-11-16 Thread R.S.
Greg Smith wrote: Ed Finnell wrote: In a message dated 11/13/2006 10:44:35 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: windows PC than os/2 was. I find it at last practical to use from home, especially to logon to the SE's . so do the hackers We have an

Re: remote support questions - curiousity

2006-11-16 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 11/16/2006 6:32:59 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, it sounds like Hollywood S-F movie. Very unlikely to happen. How likely is that hackers will want to break your well-protected home access solution ? IIRC that was how they were able to

Re: remote support questions - curiousity

2006-11-14 Thread Greg Smith
Ed Finnell wrote: In a message dated 11/13/2006 10:44:35 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: windows PC than os/2 was. I find it at last practical to use from home, especially to logon to the SE's . so do the hackers We have an interesting setup here. At

Re: remote support questions - curiousity

2006-11-13 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: remote support questions - curiousity On Sunday, 11/12/2006 at 09:33 CST, McKown, John

Re: remote support questions - curiousity

2006-11-13 Thread Choate, Bill
No, it is Linux based. Bill Choate Emory University AAIT -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 8:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: remote support questions - curiousity

Re: remote support questions - curiousity

2006-11-13 Thread R.S.
McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: remote support questions - curiousity On Sunday, 11/12/2006 at 09:33 CST

Re: remote support questions - curiousity

2006-11-13 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 11/13/2006 at 05:07 CET, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's Linux based, but I doubt you will like it. The operating system (formally IBM claims it's closed system - you cannot have even command line) is one animal, but the HMC application is another. It works almost the same way

Re: remote support questions - curiousity

2006-11-13 Thread R.S.
Alan Altmark wrote: On Monday, 11/13/2006 at 05:07 CET, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's Linux based, but I doubt you will like it. The operating system (formally IBM claims it's closed system - you cannot have even command line) is one animal, but the HMC application is another. It works

Re: remote support questions - curiousity

2006-11-13 Thread Crispin Hugo
It may not look so nice but I consider it much better for remote access from a windows PC than os/2 was. I find it at last practical to use from home, especially to logon to the SE's . Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4 http://www.macro4.com/ Macro 4 plc, The Orangery, Turners Hill

Re: remote support questions - curiousity

2006-11-13 Thread Howard Brazee
On 13 Nov 2006 09:20:43 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: windows PC than os/2 was. I find it at last practical to use from home, especially to logon to the SE's . so do the hackers The biggest advantage to both the home consumer and to the hackers is that Windows is so popular -

Re: remote support questions - curiousity

2006-11-13 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 11:18:35 -0700, Howard Brazee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13 Nov 2006 09:20:43 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: windows PC than os/2 was. I find it at last practical to use from home, especially to logon to the SE's . so do the hackers The biggest advantage to both

Re: remote support questions - curiousity

2006-11-13 Thread Howard Brazee
On 13 Nov 2006 11:16:06 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Marchant) wrote: The biggest advantage to both the home consumer and to the hackers is that Windows is so popular - including most people who don't have safe computing practices. That's what Microsoft would have you believe. It sounds

Re: remote support questions - curiousity

2006-11-13 Thread Howard Brazee
On 13 Nov 2006 11:16:06 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Marchant) wrote: Just as an example, why did Microsoft think it was a good idea that a document should contain executable code? Why would I want to run arbitrary code that you might include in a document that you send me? Oh, it made lots

Re: remote support questions - curiousity

2006-11-13 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. the other viewpoint was that the software was designed as dedicated, disconnected tabletop operation ... and allowed numerous applications (games, etc) to take over the whole machine. a

Re: remote support questions - curiousity

2006-11-13 Thread Ted MacNEIL
But it is bad for software developers to believe even slightly that hacking can't happen to us. I can see denial of service (DOS) attacks being successful. But, I've never heard of one aimed at z/OS, or predessors. But, the memory protection scheme will stop most of the others. Also, with an N

remote support questions - curiousity

2006-11-12 Thread McKown, John
This is basically for my curiousity. It isn't going to happen here anytime at all. But I am wondering how the people who do it, do remote sysprogging? Not the normal day-to-day type stuff. I mean things such as: A problem at IPL. Either the IPL fails or some problem (usually ill defined) occurs.

Re: remote support questions - curiousity

2006-11-12 Thread Len Rugen
Is OS/2 still the HMC OS? It is on our system, but it's 3-4 years old. That's my biggest problem with any remote support, I've forgot alot about using half OS. I'm only a mile or so away, and I still go to the hardware when I do a CPAC install. Once I get a new OS level customized, I rarely go

Re: remote support questions - curiousity

2006-11-12 Thread Arthur T.
On 12 Nov 2006 18:14:20 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John) wrote: This is basically for my curiousity. It isn't going to happen here anytime at all. But I am wondering how the people who do it, do remote sysprogging? Short

Re: remote support questions - curiousity

2006-11-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Sunday, 11/12/2006 at 09:33 CST, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the HMC on the zSeries is still OS/2. I hate to be a party-pooper, but the current HMC 2.9 is not based on OS/2! Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott