Edward Jaffe wrote:
If you were at SHARE, you might have been to Geoff Smith's
brainstorming and requirements gathering session. The proceedings are:
http://ew.share.org/client_files/callpapers/attach/SHARE_in_San_Jose/S2889GS132442.pdf
Geoff showed how IBM is heading away from
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/10/2008
at 09:05 AM, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
The lack of POO in HTML has created hardship for those of us that
routinely discuss programming in assembler language via email discussion
lists and the like.
I'd say that it's the lack of POO in a format
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:43:13 -0700, Gibney, Dave wrote:
So far, that makes, IBM, IDP and Phoenix the ones I know still
provide Book Manager format. Wish I could name a few more vendors in
that list :)
Compuware.
--
Tom Marchant
Abend-AID Development
Compuware
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:54:30 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:
And, BookManager format -- as rendered by Library Server -- provides the
all-important HTML via browser format. I can post a link to a manual
reference right here on IBM-MAIN and everyone can read it without having
to download some gigantic
I find that the new manual software offerings confusing and unusable.
When I installed z/OS 1.7, I copied the softcopy CD to my hard drive.
Identified those manuals (PDF form) that I would use by subject matter.
Copied them to an appropriate folder that were named according to
subject matter.
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:54:09 -0700, Mark Yuhas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I find that the new manual software offerings confusing and unusable.
When I installed z/OS 1.7, I copied the softcopy CD to my hard drive.
Identified those manuals (PDF form) that I would use by subject matter.
Copied them
Anybody know when the Softcopy librarian September 2008 books will
available. I would like to download the z/OS 1.10 books but not one by one.
Crispin Hugo
Systems Programmer, Macro 4
Sent: 11 September 2008 17:24
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: z/OS Documentation - again
On Thu, 11 Sep
--snip---
For documentation, and if book manager is out, that means I will have to
content with the pdf files. :-( But I don't have to like it.
---unsnip--
Complete agreement, Barb.
Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Fochtman
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 2:29 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: z/OS Documentation - again (was Re: zOS R10)
--snip---
For documentation, and if book
--snip--
It appears I was wrong and I offer my apologies to IDP again. FDR is't a
product I install here. I took the installers word for what I claimed
and did not check further. Actually, Innovation is sending me another CD
for
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:08:34 +0200, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And another good source of documentation goes down the drain, making it
harder to debug a problem.
I just hate pdfs, they're big and unwieldy, they take forever to download
(a 4MB book yesterday afternoon took more than 5
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Zelden
At SHARE I heard from someone that all book manager (and
PDF?) will be replaced by something (I forgot what ...
probably something like the library center).
Forced to choose between the (Java-based)
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Zelden
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:40 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: z/OS Documentation - again (was Re: zOS R10)
SNIP
It's funny, because if you look at the discussion
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:39:32 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:08:34 +0200, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some of the manuals (WebSphere, POPS) haven't had book manager
versions for a while already.
And I usually have the -3 version of the Principles of Operation .boo
Tom Marchant wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:39:32 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:08:34 +0200, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some of the manuals (WebSphere, POPS) haven't had book manager
versions for a while already.
And I usually have the -3 version of the
Edward Jaffe wrote:
Several cogent letters have been written to IBM articulating the need
for POO in HTML. IBM is aware of the problem and claims to be working
on a solution. (Probably Eclipse help format.) Off the record, I heard
that the BookManager build process broke when the POO got too
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe
[ snip ]
Several cogent letters have been written to IBM articulating
the need for POO in HTML. IBM is aware of the problem and
claims to be working on a solution. (Probably Eclipse help
format.)
When I was working with IBM SWG at RTP during system verification test of
WebSphere Portal 6.0.1, reviewing InfoCenter for errors was a large part of
the process. I got the distinct impression InfoCenter was the future.
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward Jaffe) writes:
Several cogent letters have been written to IBM articulating the need
for POO in HTML. IBM is aware of the problem and claims to be working
on
I got the distinct impression InfoCenter was the future
And I get the distinct impression that I get too old for the new clickable
stuff! While I can live with that on the corporate bandwidth, at oh:dark:30 on
a 64kB connection it certainly won't do. It is already bad enough when I have
to
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