Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-03-04 Thread Costin Enache
animal as a z/OS virus checker). More information at http://www.detack.com/en/hms.html Costin Enache / Detack GmbH --- On Fri, 3/4/11, Jan Vanbrabant wrote: > From: Jan Vanbrabant > Subject: Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Date: Friday,

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-03-03 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
Don't see anything like a "forum" in the sitemap of your web site. J On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Dr. Stephen Fedtke < max_mainframe_...@fedtke.com> wrote: > hi all, > > i almost missed this discussion. if you are interested in further arguments > and details in this field "Vulnerability Analy

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-03-03 Thread Dr. Stephen Fedtke
hi all, i almost missed this discussion. if you are interested in further arguments and details in this field "Vulnerability Analysis and Scan on z" you should also refer to the "it security forum" on our website. we completely solve this problem for over a decade. best stephen --- Dr. Stephen

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-02-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <566594.91769...@web65504.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>, on 01/31/2011 at 01:39 PM, Scott Ford said: >I agree with Elardus Engelbrecht. I understand the auditors have a >job to do, Shooting from the hip is not party of their job. However common it may be for auditors to generate BS requirements, tha

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-31 Thread Leonard D Woren
Thomas Kern wrote on 1/31/2011 11:23 AM: PS. They did not appreciate my picture of the z890 with a McAfee box on top of it. A manager at one shop I worked at long long ago mentioned that at his previous shop, the auditors once came in and asked "What do you have that keeps application program

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-31 Thread Scott Ford
: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker Thomas Kern wrote: >Our auditors don't think that way. They think a computer is a computer is a computer and they all run windows and they all need McAfee AntiVirus because that is what the windows team said they run on all the desktops. So

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-31 Thread David Andrews
On Mon, 2011-01-31 at 14:22 -0500, Sam Siegel wrote: > Hercules and pirated copies of zOS Do you have evidence of this? -- David Andrews A. Duda & Sons, Inc. david.andr...@duda.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-31 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Thomas Kern wrote: >Our auditors don't think that way. They think a computer is a computer is a computer and they all run windows and they all need McAfee AntiVirus because that is what the windows team said they run on all the desktops. So we were hit because we did not have McAfee on the z890. A

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-31 Thread Thomas Kern
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:53:28 -0800, Scott Ford wrote: > I can believe auditors would ask a question like , virus checking on > mainframes, been doing systems work on mainframes 40+ yrs, never > seen a virus AT ALL.. > On a PC totally different issue, btw I think one of the reason you dont see >

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-31 Thread Sam Siegel
lty required to write one IMHO > .. > > Scott J Ford > > > > > > > From: Clark Morris > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Sent: Sun, January 30, 2011 2:05:47 PM > Subject: Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker > >

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-31 Thread Scott Ford
write one  IMHO ..   Scott J Ford   From: Clark Morris To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sun, January 30, 2011 2:05:47 PM Subject: Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker On 28 Jan 2011 15:21:24 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >I too have a

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-31 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Clark Morris wrote: >If there is a virus, Trojan etc. that affects web servers such as Eclipse, >then that server on zOS may be vulnerable. This is where the scope should be. You should have something to check the z/OS, something else to check op z/Linux, something else to check all those th

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-30 Thread Clark Morris
On 28 Jan 2011 15:21:24 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >I too have auditors who treat the my mainframe like one those little puters >and I find it best to first educate them before they convince my management to >send me chasing phantoms. Don't assume your auditor won't appreciate a

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4d431dc8.2080...@comcast.net>, on 01/28/2011 at 01:49 PM, Ray Overby said: >A Virus exploits a system integrity vulnerability. The OP quoted the auditors about asking only about virus threats, not vulnerabilities in general. >Since we started using the tool commercially, in the >last tw

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <701312.84358...@web31803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, on 01/28/2011 at 03:20 PM, Cris Hernandez #9 said: >Address these items and I can almost guarantee that you'll pass your >audits like I do. Only if they have the same auditors that you do. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-30 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 01/28/2011 at 12:27 PM, Jim Marshall said: >Auditors came around and wrote up our z/OS V1R10 Sysplex for not >running a Virus Checker. Anyone has a constructive solution as to >one being available or some verbage which defends the position. "We are not using z/OS to distribute PC so

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 14:04:21 -0600, Ray Overby wrote: > > ..., if any integrity exposures were found, >they would have reported the vulnerabilities to IBM z/OS Development and >Development would have fixed them.That would just be the normal course >of business within IBM. >

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-29 Thread Ray Overby
Elardus, Please let me add some information in response to your posting: There is a difference between a Virus and a System Integrity Exposure.The System Integrity Exposure is the Root Cause that a Virus exploits.There may be many Viruses, especially in Windows Systems, which exploit the same

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-29 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Cris Hernandez #9 wrote: >I too have auditors who treat the my mainframe like one those little puters and I find it best to first educate them before they convince my management to send me chasing phantoms. Don't assume your auditor won't appreciate a mainframe education. Jim Marshall wrote:

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-28 Thread Cris Hernandez #9
I too have auditors who treat the my mainframe like one those little puters and I find it best to first educate them before they convince my management to send me chasing phantoms. Don't assume your auditor won't appreciate a mainframe education. The first place to hide a virus is in the OS, y

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-28 Thread Clifford McNeill
> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:25:26 -0500 > From: t...@harminc.net > If they claim that Windows malware on z/OS is a problem, then > ask them if their approved Windows AV scheme scans for z/OS malware in > Windows files, and if not why not! I like that, Tony! Cliff McNeill

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-28 Thread Thomas Kern
I don't have a z/OS solution for you, but I do use CLAMAV on my zLinux webservers. It is not an efficient solution. It takes a lot of CPU and I/O. If I had to do it over again, I would engineer an x86 staging server to do ALL the Anti-Virus scanning as files are placed there for migration to the pu

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-28 Thread Ray Overby
A Virus exploits a system integrity vulnerability. About five years ago, I was engaged to investigate a z/OS facility for system integrity vulnerabilities and, through that work, have developed a product, the z/OS Vulnerability Analysis Tool, that does a system vulnerability assessment on z/OS

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-28 Thread Tony Harminc
On 28 January 2011 13:27, Jim Marshall wrote: > Auditors came around and wrote up our z/OS V1R10 Sysplex for not running a > Virus Checker. Perhaps you should ask them to point out a z/OS virus that you could use to test with... > Anyone has a constructive solution as to one being available So

Re: z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-28 Thread Mike Schwab
http://ibmmainframes.com/about5373.html discusses MVS internal attack testing and no actual attacks. Some damage from trusted users misusing commands. http://www.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/cs/Literature/Features/report.pdf Bottom of page 20 section 2.3.5 Of course, mainframe communications are su

z/OS Virus Checker & zLinux Virus Checker

2011-01-28 Thread Jim Marshall
Auditors came around and wrote up our z/OS V1R10 Sysplex for not running a Virus Checker. Anyone has a constructive solution as to one being available or some verbage which defends the position. Been hunting around for a Virus Checker for zLinux. Also interested in what kind of over head it