Re: z9 & SoftwareAG

2006-08-09 Thread Edward Jaffe
Jim Marshall wrote: Just a heads up for those running SoftwareAG products like ADABAS to have your IT Financial folks contact the local rep. I am planning an upgrade to z9BC's where I go from 688MIPS/119MSUs to 745MIPS/104MSUs and the May inquiry said no upgrade fees (they charge for MSUs).

Re: z9 & SoftwareAG

2006-08-09 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
> >Vendors: heed the call; help us contain costs so we have something to run > >your software on! > > > > Spec out a serious migration plan that also addresses other business > needs as ammunition for telling whatever vendor does this sort of > thing that they can be on the way out the door with

Re: z9 & SoftwareAG

2006-08-09 Thread Clark F Morris
On 9 Aug 2006 04:49:34 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >SNIP > > Yep yep yep. We're looking to move from z900s to z9s, with a small MSU >increase, big increase in real, and, IBM-wise, we'll save $600k. Bloody >brilliant. I'm in love. Add in SoftwareAG, and the savings is gone, an

Re: z9 & SoftwareAG

2006-08-09 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
SNIP Yep yep yep. We're looking to move from z900s to z9s, with a small MSU increase, big increase in real, and, IBM-wise, we'll save $600k. Bloody brilliant. I'm in love. Add in SoftwareAG, and the savings is gone, and then some. It is extremely discouraging. We've had several people

Re: z9 & SoftwareAG

2006-08-09 Thread Aaron Walker
Yep yep yep. We're looking to move from z900s to z9s, with a small MSU increase, big increase in real, and, IBM-wise, we'll save $600k. Bloody brilliant. I'm in love. Add in SoftwareAG, and the savings is gone, and then some. It is extremely discouraging. We've had several people voluntee

Re: z9 & SoftwareAG

2006-08-08 Thread Steve Comstock
Shane wrote: On Tue, 2006-08-08 at 06:41 -0500, Jim Marshall wrote: There is "Pre-z9" rates and then "z9 RATES". The long and short is a $138K upgrade charge to go from 119 MSUs to 104 MSUs. Cute ... Wonder if IBMs mickey-mouse "marketing MIPS" sleight of hand is starting to bite, and the I

Re: z9 & SoftwareAG

2006-08-08 Thread Shane
On Tue, 2006-08-08 at 06:41 -0500, Jim Marshall wrote: > There is "Pre-z9" rates and then "z9 RATES". The long and short is a $138K > upgrade charge to go from 119 MSUs to 104 MSUs. Cute ... Wonder if IBMs mickey-mouse "marketing MIPS" sleight of hand is starting to bite, and the ISVs are startin

z9 & SoftwareAG

2006-08-08 Thread Jim Marshall
Just a heads up for those running SoftwareAG products like ADABAS to have your IT Financial folks contact the local rep. I am planning an upgrade to z9BC's where I go from 688MIPS/119MSUs to 745MIPS/104MSUs and the May inquiry said no upgrade fees (they charge for MSUs). Got a panic call aski