z990 multiprocessor overhead issue.

2006-03-27 Thread Phil Payne
You have one physical system. All processors (even including SAPs) compete for the physical resources such as cache, storage bandwidth, etc. Of course, any processors visible to an MVS image will also compete for MVS' structures. -- Phil Payne http://www.isham-research.co.uk +44 7833

z990 multiprocessor overhead issue.

2006-03-24 Thread Patrick Loftus
We seem to be experiencing noticeably less MIPS than expected on our z/OS LPARs, and it almost looks like the speciality engines (zAAP, IFL etc) are contributing to the multiproccesor overheads and reducing the CPU resource. Has anyone else experienced greater multiprocessor overheads than

Re: z990 multiprocessor overhead issue.

2006-03-24 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 05:36 -0600, Patrick Loftus wrote: We seem to be experiencing noticeably less MIPS than expected on our z/OS LPARs, and it almost looks like the speciality engines (zAAP, IFL etc) are contributing to the multiproccesor overheads and reducing the CPU resource. Hadn't

Re: z990 multiprocessor overhead issue.

2006-03-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Hadn't thought about that. Would be surprised if IFLs got involved, but I can imagine zAAPs (and zIIPs) might. They are exposed to the MVS scheduler, and so would conceivably suffer the same interprocess locking/spin issues. I think it's more than lock/spin. What about just making the decision to

Re: z990 multiprocessor overhead issue.

2006-03-24 Thread Richards.Bob
. (404) 575-2798 Seeing beyond money (sm) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shane Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 6:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject:Re: z990 multiprocessor overhead issue. On Fri, 2006-03

Re: z990 multiprocessor overhead issue.

2006-03-24 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 18:48 -0500, Richards.Bob wrote: With the CPs being pooled, I doubt the specialties draw down the MIP MP effect. They might chew some quick cycles, but they should not impact MIP capacity like additional general purpose CPs would. My take on this is that they are CPs