I did eventually find my CICS poster, but you can't have it. I can take
a
picture that is readable if you zoom in (but it will be 4mb file size)-
I'll
need to be home in good light though, as otherwise reflections get in
the way.
Let me know, and I can send it to you offline.
I also have another
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On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Al Sherkow a...@sherkow.com wrote:
It's public today. The question was asked this morning at Share. The z196
tech dividend is provided through the new AWLC pricing metric NOT
separation of HW MSUs SW MSUs. I've updated my
Hi
We migrated to z/os 1.11 on one of our production machines.
Before the upgrade we had almost no paging.
We now see quite a lot of paging from DB2.
Any ideas ??
Thanks in advance
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On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Sheldon Davis sda...@isracard.co.ilwrote:
Hi
We migrated to z/os 1.11 on one of our production machines.
Before the upgrade we had almost no paging.
We now see quite a lot of paging
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 09:18:53 -0500, Scott Fagen scottfagen...@yahoo.com wrote:
Here's the byzantine path to get to the current proceedings:
...
That should take you to a page where you can search the agenda or select by
day and track. I'm not sure what or if there is a delay between the speaker
In
!!aaayaih+nruo4exaufaxntnnphscxbiaegn0bx93zuzbl6lixlvwcl4ba...@gmail.com,
on 07/23/2010
at 11:35 AM, Don Williams donb...@gmail.com said:
PCP - MFT - MVT - MVS... IBM sales was changing the name even when
it was free
Those weren't name changes; PCP, MFT and MVT were
In 006f01cb2a80$10f25ad0$32d710...@net, on 07/23/2010
at 11:59 AM, Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net said:
My question doing a receive command what does SYS6 Look for
SYS6 is just a generated ddname; you can't tell anything from it.
If you put a PROFILE WTPMSG command before the
In snt113-w2ee4931f166abc115310bc6...@phx.gbl, on 07/22/2010
at 03:53 PM, john gilmore john_w_gilm...@msn.com said:
Why not PROP instead?
Tradition, and there's more than one.
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In
!!aaayaih+nruo4exaufaxntnnphscxbiaepsobmmnbc5iokofrquva9yba...@gmail.com,
on 07/23/2010
at 12:00 PM, Don Williams donb...@gmail.com said:
Not in 1988.
MVS/XA was available well before 1988.
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In listserv%201007271150351024.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 07/27/2010
at 11:50 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Thinking of it, ISPF is probably bad advice. You'd need to be
running under ISPF, which means you'd need to be running under TSO,
which means you'd need to be running APF
In 4c5966b6.7050...@trainersfriend.com, on 08/04/2010
at 07:10 AM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com said:
Umm, how can I tell from the example that this will be
a 216-byte save area?
Why do you need to? The whole point of using the mapping macros is to
avoid coding magic numbers into
In listserv%201007261223100235.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 07/26/2010
at 12:23 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com gibbered:
I know; Shmuel will say
that wouldn't be safe.
Well, if you're going to tell everybody what I'm going to say, I hope
that you don't mind if I start telling everybody what
In 49d10073ebab7b4d9dc1fc75de2eb9fb121...@blr-m3-msg.wipro.com, on
07/23/2010
at 05:57 PM, - Tibish Mathew tibish.mat...@wipro.com said:
Can someone please get my email-ID out of this mailing list ?
Yes.
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On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 03:46:50 -0500, Sheldon Davis sda...@isracard.co.il wrote:
We migrated to z/os 1.11 on one of our production machines.
Before the upgrade we had almost no paging.
We now see quite a lot of paging from DB2.
Any ideas ??
Not really. Did anything else change that could have
Hi,
I have a user which is used by many people on my z/os - we are yet to
install the ikjefln2 exit which allow reconnect - the original exit have
priviliges problem and we are still examing how we can overcome this problem
.
so the situation is that the user can be connected beacuse someone
Matan Cohen wrote:
i familiar with the way of limit AS idle time by SMFPRM but I don't want to
force a diffrent policy on the rest of the user\AS.
Use SUBSYSTEM(TSO(IEFUTL)) and see below.
is there a way to limit the idle time specific for this user ( we are on
z/1.10 with RACF)?
Yes. Use UTL
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#16 Region Size - Step or Jobcard
i.e. MVS was still mostly the same address space ... or every MVS
virtual address space was mostly the same (some installations, 13mbytes
threatening to become 14mbytes, of every 16mbyte virtual address
space) ... in
Matan Cohen wrote:
I have a user which is used by many people on my z/os
Are your auditors agreeing to this 'not recommended' situation?
we are yet to install the ikjefln2 exit which allow reconnect - the original
exit
have priviliges problem and we are still examing how we can overcome
Larger HSA?
What is your D M=STOR shows before after the change?
Isn't the HSA independent of user memory, now?
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I have a user which is used by many people on my z/os
That is a big security exposure.
Why not give each user their own ID?
That way, if something wrong (deliberate, or accident) is done, you know by
whom.
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Kimota!
this user was created for the purpose to be a public user .
I'm not concerned for open datasets cause this user don't open any
datasets.
I want to avoid using REXX. etc I'm looking for a definition if one exist
( in TSO \ RACF ) which can able me to to do so.
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:13 PM,
i found the option of TIMEOUT in racf ... now testing it!
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com wrote:
this user was created for the purpose to be a public user .
I'm not concerned for open datasets cause this user don't open any
datasets.
I want to avoid using
I was testing software on MVS/XA in mid-1983. I think it was first available
in 1Q 83.
Bill Fairchild
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Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 5:55 PM
To:
Matan Cohen wrote:
i found the option of TIMEOUT in racf ... now testing it!
That is for CICS session! Not for TSO.
Did you see my post earlier on HOW you can do it with an exit?
Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht
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Matan
we are yet to install the ikjefln2 exit which allow reconnect
In researching my response I was reminded that the instigator of a thread
where in fact I was made aware of the LOGONHERE function in TSO was one
Matan Cohen. Thus you already know everything I was minded to point out.
For
Esteemed Listers,
After RTFM'ing, testing and googl'ing I have been unable to come up with
an answer to the following question:
Is there any way (other than recreating the dataset) to alter or remove
the SMS DATACLAS currently assigned?
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide,
Elardus - thanks I now noticed what you wrote about the exit.
because of my lack of knowledge in assembly the priority of the
different activities I got - edit an exit is a very slow process . a good
example of this is that I'm not yet finish to edit ikjefln2 although i know
what should be
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbm1.com wrote:
Esteemed Listers,
After RTFM'ing, testing and googl'ing I have been unable to come up with
an answer to the following question:
Is there any way (other than recreating the dataset) to alter or remove
the SMS
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Subject: SMS question
Esteemed Listers,
After RTFM'ing, testing and googl'ing I have been unable to
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[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 9:36 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: SMS question
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Staller, Allan
allan.stal...@kbm1.com wrote:
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 07:10:14 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote:
I'm not saying the doc is wrong, I'm saying I can't understand
what it's trying to convey. I can't use it to consistently
explain the rationale behind the various save area formats.
I thought I understood what the old book said, but I had
Unfortunately, I do not have Tivoli/ACM
snip
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbm1.com
wrote:
Esteemed Listers,
After RTFM'ing, testing and googl'ing I have been unable to come up
with
an answer to the following question:
Is there any way (other than recreating
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:41 AM, McKown, John
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
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Subject: Re: SMS question
In aanlktim8ru-sbtp19raprvnbkhfn7evco9qv8pwvj...@mail.gmail.com, on
08/04/2010
at 11:50 AM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said:
Ah. I actually was paying attention,
Had you been paying attention you would have noticed that the text I
quoted in 20100803124815.8e8f1f58...@smtp.patriot.net
In
263395350882ce4d818eb08cd97b1bf70215e...@crplivexc52.citnet.cit.com,
on 08/03/2010
at 04:03 PM, Ken Porowski ken.porow...@cit.com said:
and would have two years to replace foreign engineers with
local hires.
I vaguely recall that a similar policy was a contributing factor in
the Bhopal
You seem ... angry and hostile. I'm sorry to have aggravated you. I hope you
feel better soon!
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net shmuel%2bibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
In aanlktim8ru-sbtp19raprvnbkhfn7evco9qv8pwvj...@mail.gmail.com, on
In a message dated 8/5/2010 3:30:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
vanbrabant...@gmail.com writes:
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Watch the trailing period. I got in-no problem.
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did you try use DFDSS ?
you have the option to copy with delete and specify bypassacs with storclas
keywords
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:41 AM, McKown, John
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
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ops! i now notice you are talking about dataclass ...sorry!
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com wrote:
did you try use DFDSS ?
you have the option to copy with delete and specify bypassacs with storclas
keywords
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Mike Schwab
The manual you are referring to is for IBM's version of CR+. Not IDCAMS.
If the data set is important, I would be very careful.
Richard J Habres
Jacksonville, Fl
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Behalf Of Mike Schwab
Sent:
Why is it that you think you need to change the dataclass? Once the dataset
has been allocated, changing the dataclass should have no effect that I can
think of.
Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbm1.com 8/5/2010 10:21 AM
Esteemed Listers,
After RTFM'ing, testing and googl'ing I have been
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Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:37 AM
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Subject: Re: SMS question
Why is it that you think you need to change the dataclass?
Once the dataset
Altering the DATACLAS is not the same as say the MANAGEMENTCLAS. DATACLAS can
be used for both SMS and non-SMS managed data sets. I would find it hard to
understand the reasoning behind changing the assigned value on the fly. There
are too many items associated with DATACLAS that determines
On a Z10 it is
Ted MacNEIL
eamacn...@yahoo.
CA
I am attempting to retire the DATACLAS entirely
snip
Why is it that you think you need to change the dataclass? Once the
dataset has been allocated, changing the dataclass should have no effect
that I can think of.
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Yes. In every test case, the DATACLAS was copied from the original file.
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snip
did you try use DFDSS ?
you have the option to copy with delete and specify bypassacs with
storclas
keywords
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Allan,
DATACLAS is only driven during the initial allocation of dataset. After
that it has no relevance. If you would like to manage the file during
RECALL or RENAME, you would have to do that via storage class routine.
HTH
Natarajan
On 08/05/2010 07:21 AM, Staller, Allan wrote:
Esteemed
We are recently upgraded to Zos 1.11.
According to the manual:
To calculate the value to use in a patch of the MGCB, start with the
desired number of hours for your interval, multiply by 60, and then add
30. For example, if you want the interval to be two hours, the value is
John,
I am fairly sure that you can remove a DATACLAS from your SMS configuration
even if it is referenced by an existing dataset. You can't refer to it in
an ACS routine after it is removed, but you should be able to remove it.
I would agree if the datasets are only regular non-vsam
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I have already been through the aging process. I am down to about 75
files
And what's the time interval from when these 2 interval migrations started?
I could be wrong, but I believe, the interval is calculated from one start
time to the next start, not from one end time to the next start.
Regards,
Ulrich Krueger
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From: IBM Mainframe
The dataclass is only referenced during allocation, it doesn't need to be there
once the dataset is allocated. You can go ahead and delete it.
Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbm1.com 8/5/2010 1:12 PM
I have already been through the aging process. I am down to about 75
files (out of the original
I have already been through the aging process. I am down to about 75
files (out of the original 1.2 million).
There is no deadline as to when this must be accomplished.
snip
Do you have a particular time frame to clean it up? I don't think it
would be much overhead to stop assigning the
Alan,
Do you have a particular time frame to clean it up? I don't think it would be
much overhead to stop assigning the dataclass to any new datasets and run a job
monthly or quarterly to see if any datasets using the dataclass remain. Trying
to change the BCS and VVDS entry for each dataset
Ulrich,
Good catch. My 4AM Interval ran for just over 2 hours. I never would have
expected that. I think I'll add a subtask or two.
Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
From: Ulrich Krueger [u...@pacbell.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 05,
The first one after midnight is always busy migrating those datasets
that crossed the number of days boundary.
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 1:00 PM, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
obrie...@mail.nih.gov wrote:
Ulrich,
Good catch. My 4AM Interval ran for just over 2 hours. I never would have
Yes, I would expect that the first occurance after midnight to be the busiest.
Just not 2 hours worth.
Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
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Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 2:05 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
On 3 Aug 2010 07:46:03 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
I would not worry about FUD given the following statement from the article.
Some companies still employ an older mainframe with a screen known as a
3270 terminal emulator, which evokes the decades-old Disk Operating System,
or
On 3 Aug 2010 13:22:07 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
I'm also curious as to why you would want to filter out the recording of
SMF records for certain datasets. SMF records are useful for a variety
of analysis tasks, not the least of which would be an audit trail in
case something
On 3 Aug 2010 11:04:09 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
The company commands 85 percent of the mainframe market and can't afford
to abandon a technology that despite its age, still underpins some 10,000
mainframes that are used by 4,000 to 5,000 customers around the globe.
and
The
On 8/5/2010 at 02:37 PM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote:
As someone whose mainframe training in the 1960's was OJT on DOS and a
combination of OJT, some employer sponsored IBM courses and SHARE
attendance in the late 1970s an 1980s, I question the need for
operating specific
I work with the OP. We are migrating from z/OS 1.9 and it is indeed a z9, so
HSA is still part of the customer's central storage.
We have found an OPEN APAR OA33307 which describes our problem. Hopefully
there will be a PTF soon as the End-of-Service date is approaching.
Mike
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010
G'day,
We have had a mystery here. On Wednesday last week all programs were in the
PDS. On Thursday there were 7 programs missing. The 7 programs belong to the
same development group, and no other group has any thing missing. Compress is
done once a month when IMS is down, if not IMS
I'm at a lost as to where to go next.
It depends on what you want. If you need the modules back, you should be able
to regenerate them from Endevor. If the library is a PDS then you could use the
PDS command to look at, and optionally restore, the deleted members (assuming a
compress wasn't
Had the modules been updated recently? If so, was there an Endevor
package backout done?
Thanks
Bill Bishop
Specialist
Mainframe Support Group
Server Development Support
Toyota Motor Engineering Manufacturing North America, Inc.
bill.bis...@tema.toyota.com
(502) 570-6143
Stocker, Herman
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z/os 1.9 is going out of service in September IIRC. We have to migrate to
z/os 1.11 before then.
The LPAR has 4.5 GB
DB2 V8
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Bob Rutledge deerh...@ix.netcom.comwrote:
Mike Shorkend wrote:
I work with the OP. We are migrating from z/OS 1.9 and it is indeed a
On 8/5/2010 3:09 PM, Ken Porowski wrote:
Why? Is it that the DS gets extra extents and IMS can't read
past the original?
I suspect he means the the IMS regions do a BLDL at startup
When a compress moves them the BLDL no longer matches and IMS
can't load them anymore until it is
Compress is done once a month when IMS is down, if not IMS regions abend
all over the place with programs not found, this has not happened.
That would result in a load failure not a member not found (although I
guess that could look the same).
The question for the OP is
Does your statement mean
Mike Shorkend wrote:
I work with the OP. We are migrating from z/OS 1.9 and it is indeed a z9, so
HSA is still part of the customer's central storage.
We have found an OPEN APAR OA33307 which describes our problem. Hopefully
there will be a PTF soon as the End-of-Service date is approaching.
1. Restore the modules from the most recent backup
2. Check IDR timestamps on the modules, they should match endevor
If they don't regenerate from endevor and try to figure out the
differences (good luck)
This could indicate an ulterior motive if the code was updated
outside
Why is it that you think you need to change the dataclass? Once the dataset
has been allocated, changing the dataclass should have no effect that I can
think of.
Data Class gets you DSCB attributes, but once the DSN is allocated, it's next
to meaningless.
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On a Z10 it is
That's what I thought.
So, an increase in HSA would be irrelevent to paging.
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Hi
We often got error while using DATAPROPAGATOR to download data from
mainframe. Below is the error mesage. Please could someone who are familar
with DATAPROPAGATOR help on this. Thanks.
1
2010-06-11-18.47.16.466980 ASN8999D Capture : N/A : Initial : thread
name = Initial, tid =
I would have thought DB2 might be a more pressing issue for a business.
Shane ...
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 23:42 +0300, Mike Shorkend wrote:
z/os 1.9 is going out of service in September IIRC. We have to migrate to
z/os 1.11 before then.
The LPAR has 4.5 GB
DB2 V8
There is a sense in which all is now clear (or at least very much clearer).
The exchanges between Tom Marchant and Peter Relson were very helpful.
What remains is probably intractable, but I find
. . . B can never determine. B documents its requirements and assumes that its
caller has
On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 22:23:16 +, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote:
On a Z10 it is
That's what I thought.
So, an increase in HSA would be irrelevent to paging.
It's irrelevant for any box not running in basic mode (which hasn't even been
available for a long time). If you are in LPAR
An increase of HSA could keep you from activating an LPAR, but that's all.
Since they are now independent, why?
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The EoS date is April 30, 2012. If you haven't started your DB2 upgrade
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John,
If CA-FAVER sets the ALLOC or RESTORE ACS environment then you can set your
STORCLAS and MGMTCLAS to blank and redrive the ACS routines for those
classes, and STORGRUP of course.
As a rule I used to reset and redrive the ACS classes in all environments so
that any changes would be picked
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