Re: SYSLOG/OPERLOG Time Stamps

2008-02-20 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ink.net... I have a fairly active system. Stuff going on all the time. But when I look in my SYSLOG/OPERLOG I notice that I do not see a time stamp for several minutes. If this system was not active, I could understand

Re: dsntype large and ftp or c/c++

2008-02-20 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:54:41 +0100, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We just learned the hard way that in our installation it is impossible to ftp a dsnytpe=large dataset with a primary allocation 64K to IBM. The 'normal' ftp (not Dear Barbara, I don't know about the dsntype=large, but I

CSVDYLPA DCBPTR=CVTLINK

2008-02-20 Thread Peter Relson
Dynamic LPA processing will typically do no better and no worse than any other fetch that was targeted to the LNKLST. It is quite possible that the problem is due to what the posts have indicated, namely (typically) something now in in an extent that is not part of the LNKLST that your space has

Re: HTTPD Roots (was: Linux zSeries questions) + jinsight

2008-02-20 Thread Aaron Walker
According to the WebSphere InfoCenter (http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/wasinfo/v6r1/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.websphere.ihs.doc/info/ihs/ihs/welc6miginstallihsz.html ): quote Note: IBM HTTP Server for z/OS, which is provided with WebSphere Application Server, is different from the Version

Re: dsntype large and ftp or c/c++

2008-02-20 Thread Barbara Nitz
Jantje, I don't know about the dsntype=large, but I can tell you that only a few days ago, I transferred through FTP a dataset of several megabytes from out of the mainframe (zOS 1.6) to a Windows server without any problem and without loosing a single byte. I guess there must be some constraint

Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-20 Thread R.S.
No one answered, so I'll try: Your assumption about DSORG = '' is not safe. Go, figure with allocation of PDS. I would recommend to add DSORG parameter to your JCL. Your SMS routines will be easier and - last but not least - you won't have zombie datasets. I mean a dataset with DSORG=NONE. Such

Re: SMS QUESTION - DATACLAS FILTERLIST

2008-02-20 Thread willie bunter
Barry, Yes, the user pays 1 bill (10 year contract) which explains his requirements . The qualifiers from 1 to 6 are different which adds to my woes. Some dsns have 4 qualifers, while others have 6. The user is testing new CICS environments and needs certains dsn to be trapped by TMM.

Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-20 Thread Ganesh Rao
They would still need to change the JCL to include the directory blocks, correct ? -Gani Darth Keller wrote: I've got a dataset allocated with the following JCL: 41 //OUTLOAN DD DSN=T.PM.CWSCW02M.CWSBCWI1.DMLOAN.PRECODE1, // DISP=(NEW,CATLG), //

ad-announcementEnterprise COBOL V4R1 support.

2008-02-20 Thread Steve Comstock
With Darren's kind permission, here is a recent announcement that I sent to our opt-in list a week or 10 days ago. Trying to keep any announcements to no more than one a quarter. -- We have updated our entire COBOL curriculum to reflect changes in the

Re: SMP/E GIMCPTS Downward Compatibility

2008-02-20 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
Although it is theoretically possible for an instance of GIMCPTS to be down level, there are currently no such cases... excepting of course the very unlikely case of not having GIMCPTS at all. More specifically, if SMP/E were to implement an additional and new compression dictionary, then it

Re: CSVDYLPA DCBPTR=CVTLINK

2008-02-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:35:46 -0500, Peter Relson wrote: Alternately (and this really is the intended thing to do, not refreshing LLA), have someone create a new LNKLST set just like the old one and activate it and then start your application. For example, SETPROG LNKLST DEFINE NAME(COPY)

Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-20 Thread Darth Keller
No directory blocks needed - this is a PS file. It looks to me like Radoslaw's response indicating that I'll have to have the applications add the DSORG parm to their JCl is the way I'm going to have to go. I suspected as much but was looking for confirmation. dd keller They would still

Wiki news.

2008-02-20 Thread Corneel Booysen
Hello everybody, I have been away for almost three weeks. (See my personal note below). So I have not been able to provide Wiki news. Thanks for Roland who looked after the Wiki in this time. - We passed one hundred team members while I was gone! As great as it is - we can do even better. There

Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-20 Thread John Kington
No directory blocks needed - this is a PS file. It looks to me like Radoslaw's response indicating that I'll have to have the applications add the DSORG parm to their JCl is the way I'm going to have to go. I suspected as much but was looking for confirmation. dd keller Darth, You could

Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 14:38:32 -0600, Darth Keller wrote: I've got a dataset allocated with the following JCL: 41 //OUTLOAN DD DSN=T.PM.CWSCW02M.CWSBCWI1.DMLOAN.PRECODE1, // DISP=(NEW,CATLG), // DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=205,BLKSIZE=0), //

Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-20 Thread Darth Keller
For most of my dataclas's, I do assign a DSORG. But in this case where I'm testing for the DSORG using it to assign a dataclas, it doesn't help - kind of a cart-horse problem. ddk Darth, You could add the dsorg to the dataclass(es) if you assign a dataclass to every dataset. Any open (or jcl

Re: SMS managed volume

2008-02-20 Thread David Andrews
On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 10:05 -0500, Mark Pace wrote: Is there an easy way to tell if a DASD volume is SMS managed or not? IEHLIST will tell you in a LISTVTOC. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For

3494 ATL Manual Functions

2008-02-20 Thread Hal Merritt
We have a 3494 ATL in our BR site we use for an offsite tape repository. The plan is for that unit to run stand alone until we bring up a production LPAR and begin a recovery. Tapes would be rotated in and out of the unit using printed reports from the base system. The operators want to use

Re: SMS managed volume

2008-02-20 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Is there an easy way to tell if a DASD volume is SMS managed or not? -- Mark Pace Yes, ask SMS: D SMS,VOL(volser) Kees. ** For information, services

SMS managed volume

2008-02-20 Thread Mark Pace
Is there an easy way to tell if a DASD volume is SMS managed or not? -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message:

Re: SMS managed volume

2008-02-20 Thread R.S.
Mark Pace wrote: Is there an easy way to tell if a DASD volume is SMS managed or not? ISMF 2.1.1 -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr

Re: SMS managed volume

2008-02-20 Thread Lizette Koehler
If you have QuickRef it will tell you. Lizette -Original Message- From: Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 20, 2008 10:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SMS managed volume Is there an easy way to tell if a DASD volume is SMS managed or not? -- Mark Pace Mainline Information

Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-20 Thread John Kington
Darth, You could create a new barebones dataclass and assign it to any dataset with a null DSORG. I have such a dataclas just to avoid gdg model datasets when creating a +1 gds. Regards, John For most of my dataclas's, I do assign a DSORG. But in this case where I'm testing for the DSORG using

ZOS V1R9 and Old APPS

2008-02-20 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
We are starting to install and test V1R9. Part of the challenge will be archaic DB2 and a lame-duck CICS. Have any of you 'been there and done that and would be willing to share your experiences? Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Price of CPU seconds

2008-02-20 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerhard Adam Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Price of CPU seconds That example stated that $800 per CPU/hr was the cost for a machine (undefined

Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-20 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Tom Marchant wrote: It's been a long time since I've done any SMS work, but I think you can do what you are proposing as long as you add RECORG=PS to your data class. No ways! RECORG is for VSAM, They're discussing DSORG=PS in this thread. RECORG={KS|ES|RR|LR} There is nothing about PS in

Re: Determining CPIH (Pipeline Management) Metrics for a Message/Transaction

2008-02-20 Thread Staller, Allan
snip Some of my colleagues are investigating, from an architecture point-of-view, how best to use CICS Web services to provide customer access to our 2-tiered CICS-DB2 application on z/OS. For each scenario that they investigate, as much detail on resource consumption is required. Where I am

Re: SMS managed volume

2008-02-20 Thread Ganesh Rao
If you have TASID, UCB under option 5 (Miscellaneous displays) would provide that indicator. I think even SHOWZOS (SHOWMVS) provides that information. I do not have it installed here to ascertain this claim. -Gani Mark Pace wrote: Is there an easy way to tell if a DASD volume is SMS managed or

Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-20 Thread Ron Hawkins
Darth, Sound like you have the cart in front of the horse to me. I used to code the ACS to assign DSORG=PS if it was blank and did not meet any other DSORG's criteria. This prevented the HSM orphans that Radoslaw referred to. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-20 Thread Darth Keller
John - Actually the DCSTDFLT dataclas assigned in the code stub shown in my 1st email is exactly that - a barebones dataclass. But in this case, I wanted to assign a dataclass with the extended format compaction attributes. I have several of these to chose from wanted to assign DCEXTEND

Re: 3494 ATL Manual Functions

2008-02-20 Thread Jack Kelly
From memory, which is a dangerous thing these days, I'm fairly certain that you can eject tapes from the d/t 3494 via the 'action' panel but I can't remember weather you have to be in manual mode or not. In your case that doesn't appear to be a concern though. Ejecting virtual tapes is a

Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-20 Thread Darth Keller
We use a 3rd party product to initialize these datasets prevent the orphans. ddk Darth, Sound like you have the cart in front of the horse to me. I used to code the ACS to assign DSORG=PS if it was blank and did not meet any other DSORG's criteria. This prevented the HSM orphans that Radoslaw

Re: Price of CPU seconds

2008-02-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:15:41 -0800, Gerhard Adam wrote: So, the more processors you have to split the costs across, the lower the CPU/hr charge may be. And those charges are based on the SMF collected times (since that is what fed the accounting system). It is clearly ridiculous since the

Re: SMS managed volume

2008-02-20 Thread Tom Moulder
FDR Report will tell you. Just ask for the VLSMSTAT field in the report. It will display Managed if the volume is SMS managed and NONE if it is not. Tom Moulder -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Wednesday,

Re: ZOS V1R9 and Old APPS

2008-02-20 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Which CICS release are you referring to? i just checked all of the fixes for CICS TS 2.2 and 3.1 and did not find any that had to be put on for z/os 1.9 although there were a number of hyper fixes unrelated to z/os 1.9 that will be applied. of course there are always new LE RDO groups

Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:59:00 -0600, Darth Keller wrote: John - Actually the DCSTDFLT dataclas assigned in the code stub shown in my 1st email is exactly that - a barebones dataclass. But in this case, I wanted to assign a dataclass with the extended format compaction attributes. I have

Re: ZOS V1R9 and Old APPS

2008-02-20 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Daniel McLaughlin We are starting to install and test V1R9. Part of the challenge will be archaic DB2 and a lame-duck CICS. Have any of you 'been there and done that and would be willing to share your

Re: SMS managed volume

2008-02-20 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SMS managed volume Is there an easy way to tell if a DASD volume is SMS managed or not? --

Re: SPAM: Re: LZW Compression/Expansion

2008-02-20 Thread Rick Fochtman
Many thanks to all who responded to my LZW query. I now have a plethora of references available, thanks to many helpful responses both onlist and offlist. I can't say for sure what compression algorithm I'll use in the updated ARCHIVER; overall performance and some of the technical details

Clock Reset

2008-02-20 Thread Hale, Bob
Because the TOD clock on mainframes loses seconds over a period of time the clock needs to be reset. Without the use of a SYSPLEX Timer what are you doing to reset the time? Do you reset the time on the HMC and do a POR? If so how often? Set the time when you IPL? Reset the local clock time

Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-20 Thread Darth Keller
Tom - Actually I only wanted to assign DCEXTEND for a PS file, but not a PO. The manual reference was actually what I needed to find as I couldn't remember which files could actually fall into SMS with a blank DSORG. I'm going to handle it by having the applications add the DSORG to their

Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:43:10 -0600, Darth Keller wrote: Actually I only wanted to assign DCEXTEND for a PS file, but not a PO. The manual reference was actually what I needed to find as I couldn't remember which files could actually fall into SMS with a blank DSORG. I'm going to handle it by

Re: 3494 ATL Manual Functions

2008-02-20 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: 3494 ATL Manual Functions We have a 3494 ATL in our BR site we use for an offsite tape

Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-20 Thread Gibney, Dave
Use not PO. It will be PO if it's a library -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darth Keller Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 8:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: A Blank DSORG Tom - Actually I only wanted to

Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-20 Thread Darth Keller
Tom - I hadn't thought about using DSNTYPE. If it gets set when you request directory blocks in the allocation, I could see where I could use it. Otherwise I don't see anything else in the values for test cases that would help me determine a PS from a PO. The one thing this has pointed

Re: Clock Reset

2008-02-20 Thread Pat Mihalec
If we see that the time is far enough off we will reset the local clock time, but we have only been setting the time when Daylight/Standard time changes. Because the TOD clock on mainframes loses seconds over a period of time the clock needs to be reset. Without the use of a SYSPLEX Timer what

Re: SMS managed volume

2008-02-20 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Mark, There were lots of good answers to your question. I'll add MXI to the list of tools. But for my money, Kees reply was not only the first; it is the easiest for one volume. What I did not like, however, is that the error message text of CBR1064I that accompanies the D SMS command does

Re: CSVDYLPA DCBPTR=CVTLINK

2008-02-20 Thread Paul Schuster
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:35:46 -0500, Peter Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dynamic LPA processing will typically do no better and no worse than any other fetch that was targeted to the LNKLST. It is quite possible that the problem is due to what the posts have indicated, namely (typically)

Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-20 Thread John Kington
Darth, Actually I only wanted to assign DCEXTEND for a PS file, but not a PO. The manual reference was actually what I needed to find as I couldn't remember which files could actually fall into SMS with a blank DSORG. Are your users coding directory blocks in their space parameter? DSORG

Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-20 Thread Darth Keller
John - No directory blocks in this case. They want a PS file but never coded the DSORG. I was going to have them update their JCL with the DSORG parameter, but I'm also thinking I can handle it within SMS with a separate filterlist of specific names in addition to the filterlist which uses

Re: Price of CPU seconds

2008-02-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
If all other things are equal, the cost per CPU second for a machine with two processors is half the cost per CPU second of a machine with one processor. Voodoo mathematics. If I start a second processor, I have to at least pay for the hardware upgrade and increased s/w costs. So, I don't

Re: mvs output on pc printer

2008-02-20 Thread Pete Conlin
If you're running IBM's http Server (maybe on a sandbox?), view mainframe datasets from your web browser (if the MVSDS service is enabled). You could then print locally. It could be secure (basic SAF or LDAP) at the server level (UserId in the config) or just for the MVSDS service (via

Replacement for CA - TPX - Session Manager?

2008-02-20 Thread Todd Blandford
Hello listers - Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with replacing the CA's TPX with a different session manager? Thank you. Todd Blandford -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Fw: COBOL Compiler options

2008-02-20 Thread Bill Klein
Using the coprocessor is NOT exactly the same as running the preprocessor and then the compiler. As far as I know, there have been NO reports of different run-time results from the two, but there are things that using the coprocessor can do that the preprocessor can't (see the Programming Guide

Re: Price of CPU seconds

2008-02-20 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Price of CPU seconds If all other things are equal, the cost per CPU second for a machine with two

Re: Fw: COBOL Compiler options

2008-02-20 Thread Paul D'Angelo
If you are running the CICS Itegrated translator You should be fine. I ran it in a previous installation and had no problems. Your Application developers may not like it since it generates different source code that a CICS program compiled with the Translator. It was my application staff that

Re: Replacement for CA - TPX - Session Manager?

2008-02-20 Thread Staller, Allan
Candle Supersession (or whatever IBM has renamed it to now) was pretty good. There is also another product (SWITCH?) the does the same. snip Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with replacing the CA's TPX with a different session manager? /snip

Re: Replacement for CA - TPX - Session Manager?

2008-02-20 Thread Hal Merritt
We use (ug!) Windows and a suitable (supports TLS/SSL) TN3270 emulator. Works great, users love it, minimal cost, minimal user training. The only minuses are users having to log on many times and users closing windows without logging off. Modern users are accustomed to having any number of

Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-20 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Darth, Have you given any thought to other compound filter list tests (jobname, ddname, program, etc.) that could help assign your data class without JCL changes? Bob - Robert B. Richards(Bob) US Office of Personnel

Z10 coupling link

2008-02-20 Thread Paul Meier
Does anyone have any idea how to circumvent the problem with connecting the current coupling links from a z900 STI to the new z10 infiniBand link? OR have an idea how to integrate the two? The problem is coupling a z900 to a new z10. -- Paul Meier Mainframe PCAP Cell: (708)717-8553 Work:

Re: Replacement for CA - TPX - Session Manager?

2008-02-20 Thread Jackson, Robin
Give the product marketed by Macro4 called TUBES a try. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Blandford Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Replacement for CA - TPX - Session Manager?

Re: ZOS V1R9 and Old APPS

2008-02-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:33:17 -0600, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Daniel McLaughlin We are starting to install and test V1R9. Part of the challenge will be archaic DB2 and a lame-duck CICS. Have any of you

Re: Price of CPU seconds

2008-02-20 Thread Gerhard Adam
Since what I have said is so ridiculous, why don't you take a crack at answering the original question? Then we can all take pot shots at what you say, pointing out that the example you used, based on a real system, is absolutely _ [fill in the blank]. First of all these comments weren't

Re: Price of CPU seconds

2008-02-20 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL If all other things are equal, the cost per CPU second for a machine with two processors is half the cost per CPU second of a machine with one processor. Voodoo mathematics. Is that anything like

Re: Replacement for CA - TPX - Session Manager?

2008-02-20 Thread Crabtree, Mark
We use MacKinney's Switch and it works great for a very nominal annual cost. Mark Crabtree ANPAC Manager of System Programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] (417) 887-4990 x.2767 CONFIDENTIALITY / PRIVILEGE NOTICE: This transmission and any attachments are intended solely for the addressee. This

Re: Price of CPU seconds

2008-02-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:41:52 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If all other things are equal, the cost per CPU second for a machine with two processors is half the cost per CPU second of a machine with one processor. Voodoo mathematics. Anything beyond our comprehension is

Re: Price of CPU seconds

2008-02-20 Thread Gerhard Adam
OK, all you guys are right. There is no way to do charge-back accounting. All the formulae are wrong regardless of what they are. First of all no one said you can't do chargeback, but only that the simplistic solutions being proposed aren't accurate. If you have a formula, I'd love to see it

Re: Linux zSeries questions

2008-02-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/19/2008 at 06:45 AM, Phil Smith III [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Now that I don't understand. The From: is clear, The From doesn't tell the recipient that you sent another copy to the list. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Price of CPU seconds

2008-02-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:27:35 -0800, Gerhard Adam wrote: First of all these comments weren't intended as a personal attack, and I never indicated that YOU were ridiculous, but rather than the proposed mechanism for costing CPU seconds was. The primary reason they are ridiculous is that the

Re: SMS managed volume

2008-02-20 Thread Tom Moulder
FDR Report addresses both issues to give an accurate picture and will also allow you to place the Storage Group name in the report. I use it all the time on my current project. Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Traylor,

Re: Z10 coupling link

2008-02-20 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:04:19 -0600, Paul Meier wrote: Does anyone have any idea how to circumvent the problem with connecting the current coupling links from a z900 STI to the new z10 infiniBand link? OR have an idea how to integrate the two? The problem is coupling a z900 to a new z10. You

Re: Price of CPU seconds

2008-02-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
If your single-engine machine used, say, 100 MSUs, how many MSUs does the now twin-engine machine use for the same workload? Roughly the same. Assuming NO capacity-priced software, how much is the increase in software cost? I'm not sure what your term capacity priced means, but if it means

Re: Z10 coupling link

2008-02-20 Thread Paul Meier
Just what I heard. On 2/20/08, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Meier Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Z10 coupling link

Re: Replacement for CA - TPX - Session Manager?

2008-02-20 Thread Ron Wells
MacKinney---VTAM Switch Depends on what you need...just a simple session manger? then this will do it -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally

Re: Price of CPU seconds

2008-02-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
OK, all you guys are right. There is no way to do charge-back accounting. All the formulae are wrong regardless of what they are. All these circus bureaus have been defrauding their clients, all the publicly held companies that are doing charge-back are somehow cooking their books. Now, I have

SDSF Question - How do you change the system log you are looking at?

2008-02-20 Thread Stocker, Herman
G'day, I'm on a 1.4 JES2 system (PLEX) with SDSF what I would like to do is to look at a different system's log file from the one I'm on. I know I did this before but can not find out how I did it again. Thank you. Regards, Herman Stocker The sender believes that this E-mail and any

Re: Price of CPU seconds

2008-02-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
So, I don't understand/agree with your statement. Compare a z9 BC model Y01 (1 CP) to a model S02 (2 CPs). Both are about 420 MIPS. Can you buy them both for the same price? I don't know. Okay. Now I understand. There was a missing assumption, that the single engine processor and the two

Re: SMS managed volume

2008-02-20 Thread Stephen Mednick
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Moulder Sent: Thursday, 21 February 2008 6:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMS managed volume FDR Report addresses both issues to give an accurate picture and will also

Re: Z10 coupling link

2008-02-20 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Meier Does anyone have any idea how to circumvent the problem with connecting the current coupling links from a z900 STI to the new z10 infiniBand link? OR have an idea how to integrate the two? The problem

Re: Replacement for CA - TPX - Session Manager?

2008-02-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:21:21 -0600, Jackson, Robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Give the product marketed by Macro4 called TUBES a try. Which has been reincarnated now by IBM as ISM (IBM Session Manager). Check the archives... there is an extensive list of session managers. Mark -- Mark Zelden

Re: SDSF Question - How do you change the system log you are looking at?

2008-02-20 Thread Paul Dineen
Herman, Is it the SDSF 'SYSID' command you're looking for? SYSID where is the other system in your plex. HTH, Paul On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:52:55 -0500, Stocker, Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day, I'm on a 1.4 JES2 system (PLEX) with SDSF what I would like to do is to look at

Re: SDSF Question - How do you change the system log you are looking at?

2008-02-20 Thread Ceruti, Gerard G
Herman Do you have OPERLOG enabled (syslog into a CF structure) if so, from within SDSF, enter set log ? and select operlog, then filter sysname is the system's log you want to see. Regards Gerard Ceruti may the 'z' be with you -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Questions Regarding Disk Cache

2008-02-20 Thread Gene Hudders
Hi: These were a few questions posted on another topic in CICS-L for which no reply was received. The topic was CI/CA splits and I asked the following questions, which were embedded in the response: 1) Two of the processes of completing a CA split is to format the new CA and clear out

Re: Replacement for CA - TPX - Session Manager?

2008-02-20 Thread R.S.
Todd Blandford wrote: Hello listers - Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with replacing the CA's TPX with a different session manager? Multiple icons on your PC desktop? Works like a charm. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa

Re: Z10 coupling link

2008-02-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Does anyone have any idea how to circumvent the problem with connecting the current coupling links from a z900 STI to the new z10 infiniBand link? OR have an idea how to integrate the two? Since the product hasn't been announced, yet, the only ones who would know are those under NDA. And, they

Re: Replacement for CA - TPX - Session Manager?

2008-02-20 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Zelden On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:21:21 -0600, Jackson, Robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Give the product marketed by Macro4 called TUBES a try. Which has been reincarnated now by IBM as ISM (IBM Session

Re: Z10 coupling link

2008-02-20 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 3:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Z10 coupling link McKown, John wrote: Has the z10 been announced? If not, then you may be in

Re: SDSF Question - How do you change the system log you are looking at?

2008-02-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I'm on a 1.4 JES2 system (PLEX) with SDSF what I would like to do is to look at a different system's log file from the one I'm on. I know I did this before but can not find out how I did it again. Primary command: == SYSID Where is the JES-id for the target system. Has been

Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-20 Thread Darth Keller
Tom Marchant sent this earlier today: From the Storage Administration Reference: If you do not specify a Recorg value for data sets with a data class, assigned either by JCL or ACS routine, the DSORG defaults to either physical sequential (PS) or partitioned organization (PO). -- Unless I

Re: Z10 coupling link

2008-02-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
It is not recommended to use so different machines (in term of CPU speed) in sysplex. To much overhead. Having monitored and measured this in real world environments since 1994, I disagree. Define too much, and produce documentation. The biggest issue is lock elongation if you put a sharing

Re: A Blank DSORG

2008-02-20 Thread R.S.
John Kington wrote: Darth, [...] Are your users coding directory blocks in their space parameter? DSORG should be set to PO if there is a value coded. Maybe it should, but AFAIK it isn't. That's the problem. Having blank DSORG you cannot tell whether it is PS or PO. You can check directory

Re: SDSF Question - How do you change the system log you are looking at?

2008-02-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:57:28 -0600, Paul Dineen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Herman, Is it the SDSF 'SYSID' command you're looking for? SYSID where is the other system in your plex. To clarify: The other system can only be one in the same MAS. If your JES is not shared, it doesn't

Re: Replacement for CA - TPX - Session Manager?

2008-02-20 Thread Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
The problem with using multiple emulator sessions is that if you lose your network connection to the mainframe, you also lose all your tn3270 sessions too. By logging on to the mainframe applications though a session manager, the session manager will hold your sessions open for you until you

Re: Mismatched Coupling and Coupled Speeds

2008-02-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Moving on, it has been demonstrated that the CF engine needs to be reasonably close to the coupled engine speed else there is a risk of capacity loss. Define 'reasonably close'. Define 'a risk'. We had 9672-C04 CFs with 9672-RXn z/900 images. Yes, this was a few years ago. Due to budgetting

Re: Replacement for CA - TPX - Session Manager?

2008-02-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:19:16 -0600, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Zelden On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:21:21 -0600, Jackson, Robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Give the product marketed by Macro4 called TUBES a

Re: Z10 coupling link

2008-02-20 Thread Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
Go to http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=tss1prs840 and select the presentation labeled S2885BB - Tool Bag - orlando.pdf See page 5. Mark T. Regan, K8MTR CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991) - Original Message From: Tom Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent:

Mismatched Coupling and Coupled Speeds

2008-02-20 Thread Martin Packer
Note the change of title from the obvious OTHER one. :-) And deliberate abstraction on MY part. :-) The issue is with whether the Coupling Facility is too slow relative to the coupled z/OS images. Just to be clear: Not whether the images are on different speed engines. Moving on, it has been

Re: Mismatched Coupling and Coupled Speeds

2008-02-20 Thread R.S.
Martin Packer wrote: Note the change of title from the obvious OTHER one. :-) And deliberate abstraction on MY part. :-) The issue is with whether the Coupling Facility is too slow relative to the coupled z/OS images. Just to be clear: Not whether the images are on different speed engines.

Re: Z10 coupling link

2008-02-20 Thread Tom Schmidt
Hmmm... z/OS 1.10 (on page 4) AND the z/10-EC (on page 5). Nice find, Mark! On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:19:01 -0800, Mark T. Regan, K8MTR wrote: Go to http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=tss1prs840 and select the presentation labeled S2885BB - Tool Bag - orlando.pdf See page 5.

Re: Replacement for CA - TPX - Session Manager?

2008-02-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Why are you still using a session manager? A lot of green screens? The number of green screens has nothing to do with it, as far as I'm concerned. We use them with TN3270 sessions for one major reason -- single sign on. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

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