Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Martin Packer
Disabling javascript will leave you disenfranchised from an increasingly large number of (increasingly important) websites. But at least you have an extension to make this SELECTIVE. As a big Firefox fan (writing extensions and living on the BLEEDING edge by running Nightlies) I wonder if IE

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Martin Packer
I hope you're not suggesting javascript is evil and to be avoided at all costs. And I do hope you'll trust IBMLink in that regard. Note: I haven't even bothered to Ctrl+U or Ctrl+Shift+I IBMLInk so I've no idea what it's using javascript for. Hopefully dojo. Martin Martin Packer Performance

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Packer) writes: As a big Firefox fan (writing extensions and living on the BLEEDING edge by running Nightlies) I wonder if IE even HAS

Re: Z10 and ICSF

2008-05-12 Thread Jousma, David
I have to ask, did you run the PSP bucket for z10? We just went through this upgrade, and the list was pretty long, and included ICSF maintenance. ___ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President Mainframe Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] 616.653.8429

Re: FTP VB dataset

2008-05-12 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Mullen, Patrick wrote: I thought this would be straight forward, but I can't get it to work correctly. Trying to FTP a DSORG=VB dataset from one z/OS 1.7 system to another z/OS 1.7 system. The dataset contains alphabetic and packed decimal data. With no special commands, some of the packed

Re: ServerPac and zFS

2008-05-12 Thread Jim Holloway
From:John Mattson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ServerPac and zFS SNIP EZZ4203I Z/OS UNIX - TCP/IP CONNECTION ERROR FOR TCPIP-BPX1PCT,800D,,0079,11B3005A EZZ4203I Z/OS UNIX - TCP/IP CONNECTION ERROR FOR TCPIP-BPX1PCT,C005,,0079,11B3005A EZZ9315E TCP/IP

Re: Red Alert: OA24741 Sysplex-wide impact due to loop in GRS on z/OS 1.9 and higher

2008-05-12 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mariuca Iftime It is no PTF available for ZOS 1.9, only ZOS 1.4 PTF List: Release 740 : UA40682 available 08/05/07 (1000 ) == 1.9 Release 750 : PTF not available yet == 1.10 Release 750 :

Re: absurd programs that used to be everywhere ...

2008-05-12 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 12:59 -0400, Arthur T. wrote: On 9 May 2008 06:21:05 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (F. J. Kelley) wrote: Anyway, I've been asked if I can provide banners ... sheesh ... The kind printed on fanfold (ie greenbar)

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Howard Brazee
On 11 May 2008 14:26:06 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Alcock) wrote: Ever since the Web came along I've been annoyed by those web sites that won't accept spaces or dashes like for credit cards and phone numbers. I know that even ancient mainframe COBOL has support for removing them with one

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Gil, I think in this context, the new and nifty and PC-weenie comments were based on the fact that in the eyes of most non-mainframers, these things are new and nifty despite the fact that they have been common-place in CICS and IMS applications for almost 40 years. Similar to the contempt many

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Arthur T.
On 12 May 2008 01:55:00 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Packer) wrote: I hope you're not suggesting javascript is evil and to be avoided at all costs. And I do hope you'll trust IBMLink in that regard. Remember, you're not just

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web On 11 May 2008 14:26:06 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Alcock)

Re: Cleanup a unconnected Coupling Facility

2008-05-12 Thread Skip Robinson
This thread comes at a pivotal point for us because we're looking at the same sort of CEC swap-out in the near future. When we conducted our first DR test 10 years ago, we experienced very much the same problem: fully mirrored couple data sets were convinced that we had somehow left the old CFs

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Howard Brazee On 11 May 2008 14:26:06 -0700, David Alcock wrote: Ever since the Web came along I've been annoyed by

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 5/11/2008 5:39:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cursor would be in the first field the user needed to fix. I hate web pages that say Correct errors in red If the error is a blank, you can't find it. With our technique, you knew which fields

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Steve Comstock
McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web On 11 May 2008 14:26:06 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ERBPPSRT Gone at z/OS 1.9

2008-05-12 Thread Steven Conway
Morning, All. Went to z/OS 1.9 yesterday on our main DEV system, which also runs some PROD batch. One of our Capacity Performance RMF processing jobs got an S806 on module ERBPPSRT. It was pointed out years ago (in this forum) that this sort exit in SYS1.SERBLINK had been replaced by

(OT) java vs javascript (was : Mainframe programming vs the Web)

2008-05-12 Thread Ivan Warren
Arthur T. wrote: Java is safe, at least theoretically, because it runs in its own virtual machine. Javascript, by design, can do damn near anything to your machine. I'm not sure I agree here. Java is safe only to the point where - core classes are properly implemented to prevent

Re: Red Alert: OA24741 Sysplex-wide impact due to loop in GRS on z/OS 1.9 and higher

2008-05-12 Thread Edward Jaffe
Mariuca Iftime wrote: It is no PTF available for ZOS 1.9, only ZOS 1.4 z/OS 1.4 is no longer in service. The oldest supported release is z/OS 1.7; end of service for that release is scheduled for this September. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd,

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Wayne Driscoll [ snip ] Also, it annoys me that (I have done this on occasion) the sites don't validate the combination of state and zip code. Especially since the drop-downs aren't always in the same order,

Re: Cleanup a unconnected Coupling Facility

2008-05-12 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 5/12/2008 9:31:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: circumvent this rocky road when we come back up with everything else intact but for the CFs. OP's experience suggests otherwise. I now have to rethink the whole process. Almost like we need a 'cold

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip I hope you're not suggesting javascript is evil and to be avoided at all costs. And I do hope you'll trust IBMLink in that regard. Note: I haven't even bothered to Ctrl+U or Ctrl+Shift+I IBMLInk so I've no idea what it's using javascript for.

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Martin Packer
Only in chrome. I.e. in a Firefox extension. The capabilities of other javascript environments are very much restricted. Martin Packer Performance Consultant IBM United Kingdom Ltd +44-20-8832-5167 +44-7802-245-584 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Arthur T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web [snip] present. I've got a serious problem with that; I wish I

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Howard Brazee
On 12 May 2008 08:20:36 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chase, John) wrote: Don't forget the multi-word surnames, like Van de Graaf, de la Hoya, etc. I'm sure those folks tire from receiving form-letter acknowledgements that start with Dear Mr. Van: or Dear Mr. de:. I'm doing case conversions of

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Howard Brazee
On 12 May 2008 08:21:52 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Comstock) wrote: I once met an instructor in San Francisco whose name was something_or_other III. He decided the III was the only part that gave him uniqueness. He had his name legally changed to '3'. Failed a lot of validation tests on many

CA ACF2 SAF HFS Security and COCSTS32

2008-05-12 Thread John P Donnelly
We are currently converting from CICS TS1.3 to CICS TS3.2, and we want to implement ACF2 CA SAF HFS Security. There is an ACF2 Tool ACFHFSRP which generates resource rules for all HFS directories. This tool does not create the NEXTKEY entries for CICSTS32 XML directories which is over 4000 lines.

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread CICS Guy
John, For multiple states beginning with the same letter, keep pressing the first letter Four or five times for Arizonagrin Bill -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:55 AM

Re: ERBPPSRT Gone at z/OS 1.9

2008-05-12 Thread Staller, Allan
This was documented on pp 236 of the migration guide snip Went to z/OS 1.9 yesterday on our main DEV system, which also runs some PROD batch. One of our Capacity Performance RMF processing jobs got an S806 on module ERBPPSRT. It was pointed out years ago (in this forum) that this sort

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Steve Comstock
Rick Fochtman wrote: snip I hope you're not suggesting javascript is evil and to be avoided at all costs. And I do hope you'll trust IBMLink in that regard. Note: I haven't even bothered to Ctrl+U or Ctrl+Shift+I IBMLInk so I've no idea what it's

Re: CA ACF2 SAF HFS Security and COCSTS32

2008-05-12 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 12 May 2008 16:05:48 +, John P Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone implemented ACF2 CA SAF HFS Security and setup the resource rules for the HFS directories? Is there a better way to protect the HFS directories from the application programming staff? Better? That is a

Re: Where do I find Instruction/Function Defs

2008-05-12 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 9 May 2008 15:49:02 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: Tom Marchant wrote: Yuck! ITYM TMFLCEFACILITIESLISTBYTE2,FLCEEXTENDEDIMMEDIATE Personally, I prefer to use the mixed case symbols from the PL/X expansions: TMFlceFacilitiesListByte2,FlceExtendedImmediate Agreed.

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Howard Brazee [ snip ] I did work for a company that had to clean up addresses - it had a dirty word file that it used - but I've read of some foreign dirty words that are valid places and names. . . .

Re: CA ACF2 SAF HFS Security and COCSTS32

2008-05-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John P Donnelly Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 11:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: CA ACF2 SAF HFS Security and COCSTS32 [snip] Has anyone implemented ACF2 CA SAF HFS Security

Question concerning performance, VIO and chargeback

2008-05-12 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
We are running Z/os 1.7. It recently came to my attention that VIO had been implemented in such a way that temp datasets no matter how small ALWAYS went to DASD. One of my predessesors used a storclas with Guaranteed Space. Anyway a user asked to be able to use VIO so I turned it on. Today he

Re: Cleanup a unconnected Coupling Facility

2008-05-12 Thread Field, Alan C.
We did this recently. Removed the old processor without moving the structures before shutting down. We realized we'd seen this situation when going to DR so we ended up deleting the CFRM datasets and reloading them with the new policy and then ipling the sysplex. For us this was the cleanest

Re: Question concerning performance, VIO and chargeback

2008-05-12 Thread Edward Jaffe
O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote: We are running Z/os 1.7. It recently came to my attention that VIO had been implemented in such a way that temp datasets no matter how small ALWAYS went to DASD. One of my predessesors used a storclas with Guaranteed Space. Anyway a user asked to be able

CA-ACF2 SAF HFS worded another way

2008-05-12 Thread John P Donnelly
_ From: Carlson, Steven Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:07 AM To: Donnelly, John P Subject: IBMMAIN Question John: I found this question in IBMMAIN, and would like to send it again. Has anyone implemented the CA-ACF2 SAF HFS security facility to replace Unix security

Re: Question concerning performance, VIO and chargeback

2008-05-12 Thread Edward Jaffe
O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote: Ed, Customer feedback for elapsed time follows: Actually the elapsed time was substantially shorter for the VIO tests: - the VIO tests both executed in .02 min - the physical IO tests executed in .05 and .07 min Still I rather doubt that they will

Re: Question concerning performance, VIO and chargeback

2008-05-12 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Ed, Thank you for the response. I doubt paging would be an issue on this machine. The user did not report back on elapsed times. I suspect when he saw the charges for the job had doubled, elapsed time took secondary importance. From: Edward Jaffe

Re: Question concerning performance, VIO and chargeback

2008-05-12 Thread Martin Packer
I expect it's because VIO requires cycles. Definitely true when simulating a device in memory. Quite possibly also true when doing VIO to page data sets on disk. What I used to call the DIM Coffee Table Book :-) showed VIO to Expanded Storage burnt CPU compared to doing it to straight temp

Re: ERBPPSRT Gone at z/OS 1.9

2008-05-12 Thread Steven Conway
Yup, it was. Definitely a local (my) error, not IBM's. My post was an observation that, while some migration actions may be ignored, this one can't. Skipping multiple releases, going thru those same multiple releases' migration and planning guides, almost a guarantee I'll miss something.

Re: Question concerning performance, VIO and chargeback

2008-05-12 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Ed, Customer feedback for elapsed time follows: Actually the elapsed time was substantially shorter for the VIO tests: - the VIO tests both executed in .02 min - the physical IO tests executed in .05 and .07 min Still I rather doubt that they will pay for the quicker turn around.

Re: Question concerning performance, VIO and chargeback

2008-05-12 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 5/12/2008 12:17:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I used to call the DIM Coffee Table Book :-) showed VIO to Expanded Storage burnt CPU compared to doing it to straight temp data sets on disk. For MOST data points. There used to be some

Re: Question concerning performance, VIO and chargeback

2008-05-12 Thread Martin Packer
Edward E Jaffe wrote: That is -- and AFAIK has always been -- the VIO trade-off. CPU time for clock time. Yes, that's right. And VIO should be compared and contrasted with other DIM techniques for Batch. I've a feeling I wrote a blog post about it a few months ago. I should've because I

Re: HIPAA auditing (was:RE: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd))

2008-05-12 Thread Galambos, Robert
You are correct that this auditing must be done. This Application Auditing must include not just what a RACF log would show - that someone had access to a file, but to show exactly what the user saw. It is one thing to know that someone logged in, accessed a sensitive file and logged out

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Craddock, Chris
From what I understand about JAVA vs. JAVASCRIPT, which I freely admit may be a faulty understanding, there are important differences. Javascript and JAVA are apples and fish. It's like CLIST versus COBOL. There are some similar semantic constructs but that's about all. Javascript is just a

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 12 May 2008 09:09:18 -0500, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... The other thing that irritates many is the US (and English?) centric First Name, Middle Name (or initial), Last Name. ... First Name, Middle Initial, Last Name has always bothered me. And those (admittedly fewer)

Probably a basic TCP/IP question

2008-05-12 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Sorry for a basic question, but where does the FTP client get it's timestamp information from? I have a programmer who just performed an FTP GET command to a PDS member. The ISPF statistics were updated with the FTP GET. Unfortunately, the timestamp placed on the member is 5 hours into the

Report: HP to buy EDS for $12 billion

2008-05-12 Thread Tom Schmidt
Report: HP to buy EDS for $12-13 billion (possibly to be announced as early as tomorrow?) http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9942051-7.html -- Tom Schmidt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: Probably a basic TCP/IP question

2008-05-12 Thread Jack Kelly
snip but where does the FTP client get it's timestamp information from? snip FTP belongs to the brave UNIX world. Sounds like you don't have TZ=EST5EDT export TZ set in etc profile or are not executing it.. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office)

Re: HIPAA auditing (was:RE: VSAM / COBOL question - redux (fwd))

2008-05-12 Thread Clark Morris
On 12 May 2008 10:35:48 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: You are correct that this auditing must be done. This Application Auditing must include not just what a RACF log would show - that someone had access to a file, but to show exactly what the user saw. It is one thing to know

Re: Probably a basic TCP/IP question

2008-05-12 Thread Fletcher, Kevin
snip Sorry for a basic question, but where does the FTP client get it's timestamp information from? I have a programmer who just performed an FTP GET command to a PDS member. The ISPF statistics were updated with the FTP GET. Unfortunately, the timestamp placed on the member is 5 hours into

Re: Question concerning performance, VIO and chargeback

2008-05-12 Thread Clark Morris
On 12 May 2008 11:33:26 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Edward E Jaffe wrote: That is -- and AFAIK has always been -- the VIO trade-off. CPU time for clock time. Yes, that's right. And VIO should be compared and contrasted with other DIM techniques for Batch. I've a feeling I

Re: Probably a basic TCP/IP question

2008-05-12 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Jack, I forgot to mention one item. It's being run as a batch job so /etc/profile isn't a player. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Kelly Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 3:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: Probably a basic TCP/IP question

2008-05-12 Thread Fletcher, Kevin
snip Jack, I forgot to mention one item. It's being run as a batch job so /etc/profile isn't a player. Rex /snip Rex, I still believe it runs through the FTP (usually called FTPD) STC, and that will use the TZ envrionment variable. Fletch

Re: Probably a basic TCP/IP question

2008-05-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 3:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Probably a basic TCP/IP question Jack, I forgot to mention one item. It's being run as a

Re: Probably a basic TCP/IP question

2008-05-12 Thread Jack Kelly
snip It's being run as a batch job so /etc/profile isn't a player. snip Batch doesn't make any difference, you just have batch UNIX. 'tis a brave new world... Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Z/OS 1.9

2008-05-12 Thread Fred Hoffman
Does anyone know whether z/os 1.9 will be offered to PWD members. The last release I have is 1.8. TIA, Fred Hoffman -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the

Re: Probably a basic TCP/IP question

2008-05-12 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
So would I set this in the /etc/init.options file? Thanks. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fletcher, Kevin Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 3:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Probably a basic TCP/IP question snip

Re: Z/OS 1.9

2008-05-12 Thread Steve Comstock
Fred Hoffman wrote: Does anyone know whether z/os 1.9 will be offered to PWD members. The last release I have is 1.8. TIA, Fred Hoffman We installed z/OS 1.9 on our zPad last month. Came as part of the Cornerstone / FLEX-es / PWD package. Not sure who does which part, to tell you the

Re: Probably a basic TCP/IP question

2008-05-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 3:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Probably a basic TCP/IP question Sorry for a basic question, but where does the FTP client get it's

Re: Cleanup a unconnected Coupling Facility

2008-05-12 Thread Martin Kline
We also went throught this situation recently. After the Cf swap, the sysplex still had a pending situation, waiting for the now non-existent CF to come online. Approximately 100 hours after the CF swap, it suddenly cleared itself with no other manual intervention, all pending status's

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 09:59 -0600 on 05/12/2008, Howard Brazee wrote about Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web: Around 1968 I read a book where this guy had a long hyphenated name which the computers kept having troubles with. He invented a bacterium that ate computer tapes for revenge - which made him an

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 09:51 -0600 on 05/12/2008, Steve Comstock wrote about Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web: It's a real dilema for webpage developers. I recently redesigned our home page. My initial design was to be very minimalist, just a few lines, but if you clicked a line it was expanded, using

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 16:38 +0100 on 05/12/2008, Martin Packer wrote about Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web: Javascript, by design, can do damn near anything to your machine. What EXACTLY do you claim that JavaScript can do that is dangerous? It has no ability to access the Hard Drive (so it can not look

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 11:27 -0500 on 05/12/2008, Chase, John wrote about Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Howard Brazee [ snip ] I did work for a company that had to clean up addresses - it had a dirty word file that it

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
The normal user gets an interactive copy of the page while the Paranoid Luddites get a non-interactive static page. Is it truly being a luddite to not want your PC screwed over by bad/malicious external code? I've been hit too many times, and I know better. Our security people know even more

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert A. Rosenberg Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 4:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web In a case of this type, all you need to do is place a

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Steve Comstock
Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: At 09:51 -0600 on 05/12/2008, Steve Comstock wrote about Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web: It's a real dilema for webpage developers. I recently redesigned our home page. My initial design was to be very minimalist, just a few lines, but if you clicked a line it

Re: CA ACF2 SAF HFS Security and COCSTS32

2008-05-12 Thread Doug Fuerst
Yes, I have had the HFS protected by ACF2 for a least 2 years or more. This is fairly common. Try the ACF2 list on Yahoo for help on ACF2 Doug Fuerst Subject: CA ACF2 SAF HFS Security and COCSTS32 [snip] Has anyone implemented ACF2 CA SAF HFS Security and setup the resource

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 5/12/2008 4:13:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Novel before getting to your message. Based on this memory, and on impulse, I just right now bought a copy so I can reread it. Copies are available from Amazon if you want to reread it yourself.

Re: Probably a basic TCP/IP question

2008-05-12 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
I think John wins the prize! I just IPLed my sandbox moving the local time 2 hours to the west and the FTP client still put a GMT timestamp on the member it put into the PDS. The programmer who reported it to me reported it as a z/OS 1.7 upgrade issue and since I have no 1.4 LPARs left, I

Re: ERBPPSRT Gone at z/OS 1.9

2008-05-12 Thread Shane
On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 13:15 -0400, Steven Conway wrote: Skipping multiple releases, going thru those same multiple releases' migration and planning guides, almost a guarantee I'll miss something. I tend to rely on Marnas (fantastic) offering in lieu of the official guides - more so where

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Skip Robinson
It's un-American not to have a one syllable nickname. ;-) On the other hand, legal names have to be accommodated whether it's COBOL on punch cards or entry fields on a web window. It would be nice to see some sincere concern for the end user. AKA the one who pays for the 'service'.

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
What EXACTLY do you claim that JavaScript can do that is dangerous? It has no ability to access the Hard Drive (so it can not look at your files) or things like that. According to other posters, it can. Since I'm not a JAVA expert, I'll defer to their expertise. - Too busy driving to stop for

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Craddock, Chris
What EXACTLY do you claim that JavaScript can do that is dangerous? It has no ability to access the Hard Drive (so it can not look at your files) or things like that. According to other posters, it can. Since I'm not a JAVA expert, I'll defer to their expertise. Javascript is not JAVA!

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Javascript is not JAVA! Chant it if it helps you to remember... Admittingly, I'm not an expert (I said that). My point was that both seem to be exposures. I've seen posts that both have security issues. I deferr to the experts on this. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Arthur T.
On 12 May 2008 14:14:14 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert A. Rosenberg) wrote: At 16:38 +0100 on 05/12/2008, Martin Packer wrote about Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web: Javascript, by design, can do damn near anything to your

Re: Probably a basic TCP/IP question

2008-05-12 Thread Kirk Wolf
As a USS program, FTP probably uses the C library's time functions, which don't know about the z/OS PARMLIB setting! You probably have to set the TZ environment variable if you want to see local time. Use the ENVAR() LE parm option (or via CEEOPTS if you are running 1.7+). You would think that

Re: CTC Disconnect Time

2008-05-12 Thread Dave Barry
Off the top of my head, I believe you have to tell VTAM that there are separate inbound and outbound paths between the two nodes. Sounds like you're configuration has forced your links to be half-duplex. db -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL

LPAR Capping - weight question

2008-05-12 Thread Michael Mcloughlin
We wish to follow the advice given in an earlier to cap MSU usage of our 2 LPARs (2 monoplexes) by intoducing a dummy CF LPAR when we upgrade our z890. I understand we should SET DYNDISP OFF. But what would be a good weight for the CF LPAR so it always consume a fixed number of MSUs (capped of

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Ivan Warren
Arthur T. wrote: I'm not an expert, so I let Google do the work. Some of the exploits are old, but they do or did exist. Here's just a sample: As you may of noticed - most of the security issues are 'implementation' issues - not design issues.. Now, the same goes for Real Language

Re: LPAR Capping - weight question

2008-05-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
But what would be a good weight for the CF LPAR so it always consume a fixed number of MSUs (capped of course). CF's do not contribute to MSU charging. They should always be allowed to run without any form of capping or sharing. What problem are you trying to solve? - Too busy driving to stop

Fw: CICS/BMS greenies to GUI's

2008-05-12 Thread Bill Klein
This note was posted directly to the USENET newsgroup and hasn't had many replies. I am forwarding it to the list-server, to see if more people have input on it. (It is also in the comp.lang.cobol newsgroup). Graham Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, Big

IBM PR: Pervasive Business Intelligence with System z

2008-05-12 Thread Timothy Sipples
IBM has a webcast scheduled at 2:00 p.m. Eastern U.S. (New York) time on May 22, 2008, focused on how to deliver and improve operational business intelligence on System z. Business intelligence needs are maturing rapidly, and for increasing numbers of businesses it is no longer acceptable to wait

Re: Cleanup a unconnected Coupling Facility

2008-05-12 Thread Kevin Mckenzie
There are probably outstanding failed persistent connections to the CF that you need to delete. Use the command d xcf,cf,cfname=CF2 to get a list of structures that XCF thinks is allocated on that CF. Then you can use the command d xcf,str,strname=strname to get a list of connections to

Re: Mainframe programming vs the Web

2008-05-12 Thread Clark Morris
On 12 May 2008 15:03:41 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: It's un-American not to have a one syllable nickname. ;-) On the other hand, legal names have to be accommodated whether it's COBOL on punch cards or entry fields on a web window. It would be nice to see some sincere concern for

Re: CICS/BMS greenies to GUI's

2008-05-12 Thread Graham Hobbs
Thanks Bill. - Original Message - From: Bill Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 7:41 PM Subject: Fw: CICS/BMS greenies to GUI's This note was posted directly to the USENET newsgroup and hasn't had many

Re: LPAR Capping - weight question

2008-05-12 Thread Michael Mcloughlin
But what would be a good weight for the CF LPAR so it always consume a fixed number of MSUs (capped of course). CF's do not contribute to MSU charging. They should always be allowed to run without any form of capping or sharing. What problem are you trying to solve? Upgrading capacity of z890

Re: Cleanup a unconnected Coupling Facility

2008-05-12 Thread Cwi Jeret
Thanks Kevin for Your detailed answer . Attached are the Commands I used with the results. Again, the problem is that CFRM still has the allocations on CF2 which used to be on 2094 . Now CF2 is on 2097, therfore the CF is not connected, preventing any action on its structures ! -d

Re: Cleanup a unconnected Coupling Facility

2008-05-12 Thread Cwi Jeret
Hello Alan , You wrote : We realized we'd seen this situation when going to DR so we ended up deleting the CFRM datasets and reloading them with the new policy and then ipling the sysplex. I like this solution, but isn't it possible to perform this without the entire SYSPLEX IPL ? As our

Re: Cleanup a unconnected Coupling Facility

2008-05-12 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Mon, 12 May 2008 23:34:11 -0500, Cwi Jeret wrote: Attached are the Commands I used with the results. Again, the problem is that CFRM still has the allocations on CF2 which used to be on 2094 . Now CF2 is on 2097, therfore the CF is not connected, preventing any action on its structures !

Re: LPAR Capping - weight question

2008-05-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Upgrading capacity of z890 but capping total MSUs of existing 2 LPARs to 26 MSUs, but also not wanting to cap each LPAR as such (i.e. each LPAR could get the whole 26 MSUs if the other LPAR is idle). Therefore using the dummy CF LPAR to consume the MSUs we do not want to be charged for. I