I put that video up on the Mainframe Blog a couple days ago.
Note that recession proof doesn't mean immune to venue changes. That is,
there will be ongoing turmoil in corporate identities and locations. So the
mainframe jobs won't necessarily be in the same cities for the same
companies. But the
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Wayne Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Jim,
For DB2 V7 (now out of service) and DB2 V8, you need the PTF for APAR
PK35437.
Wayne Driscoll
Product Developer
NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own.
Cheers Wayne.
Jim McAlpine
Edward Jaffe wrote:
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That's why I translate specialty engines as castrated engines.
The only specialization is lack of some abilities, just to support one
workload, but not other. Everything behind is sales peach .
Big technical effort done to keep high prices on monopoly (MVS) market
and
Ed,
I think there will be a shortage when/if the dinos like us retire..
A lot of 'younger' guys and gals don't want to learn z/OS or any of it's
components.
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:28:59 -0500, P S wrote:
... specialty engines help keep the cost of
z/OS and friends high...
They do? Not that I can tell.
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Well, they do by helping z shops keep z/OS at all, sorta. It's kind of
an nth derivative. I know what you're saying and I could argue that
too, but look at it this way: without IFLs et al., more shops would
say z/OS was too expensive, and IBM would either be losing more share
or would be forced to
Just trying to find out how many shops are using the multi-term product
from sds.
Thank You
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The system will use the LNKLST as it was defined because it has built and
opened a DCB representing the concatenation.
LLA will use the data sets as they are cataloged. LLA allocates each data
set that it is managing.
With those IJK... messages it looks to me like he is just coding the
REXX statements via SYSTSIN rather than trying to execute the REXX
stored in a PDS.
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P S wrote:
You say that like it's a negative thing.
No, I clearly mentioned, that it's NOT. See my disclaimer.
I just provided more accurate description of things. Specialty really
means less functional. Basic CP means all specialties in one.
In English (same in Polish) specialty is
Mark Post wrote:
On 11/12/2008 at 4:42 AM, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tommy Tsui wrote:
I have a question on z/VM. I understood z/Linux running on z/VM but why we
need z/OS running on z/VM?...becuase of sharing resource? any shop running
z/os on z/VM?
You don't need to run z/OS on VM. This
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I haven't used the ISPF compile panels for a long time. When I'm in a member
list I enter '1' next to any members I want to compile, or I enter '1
pattern' on the command line to select all members that match a pattern
Obviously I was wrong in asserting that the publications are correct with
respect to the sentence
During unallocation (when LLA is stopped or the system is reIPLed), the
system recatalogs the library data sets to the volume that was current at
LLA initialization.
Clearly there is no
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Mark Post wrote:
On 11/12/2008 at 4:42 AM, R.S.
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Tommy Tsui wrote:
I have a question on z/VM. I understood z/Linux running on z/VM
but why we
need z/OS running on z/VM?...becuase of sharing
You say that like it's a negative thing.
Seriously, what's your point? Do you really think a Cadillac costs 2x
as much to build as a Chevy? Do you really think a large Coke at
McDonald's costs them a fraction of what they charge? Do you really
think that the manufacturing cost of the latest x86
I wonder if the listerv systems are running on VM systems that aren't used for
running or developing guest OS's. For example VM.MARIST.EDU.
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Implementing UML under z/OS would seem to me to require that you port
the UML kernel as a set of z/OS libraries. This will be difficult
because of the lack of gcc, ASCII/EBCDIC issues, etc. There is a big
barrier to entry to get started. After that, the UML kernel devices
will get mapped
Thanks for your input, Peter:
The system will use the LNKLST as it was defined because it has built and
opened a DCB representing the concatenation.
LLA will use the data sets as they are cataloged. LLA allocates each data
set that it is managing. And it uses the catalog to locate that data set.
Can anyone point me to a list of products that support/exploit those
gadgets?
Thanks!!
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See the last two steps in member SHOWJCL or X2PJCL.
Roland
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Roland Schiradin
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Look into the SHOWzOS distribution www.cbttape.org. It contains a JCL to
generate a PDF and transfer this MVS dataset to your PC.
Roland
I'm not having
Or coming from SYSPROC *without* the /* REXX */ comment.
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With those IJK... messages it looks to me like he is just coding the
REXX statements via SYSTSIN
Anton,
I think whether or not a mainframe job in the company types on your list
is recession proof depends on the individual company. For example, I
work for a bank as you can see from my signature block. My bank is a
mid-size regional commercial bank (as opposed to an investment bank)
that is
from the mxg website
http://www.mxg.com/newsletters/
What products execute on zIIPs?
This note will be updated as new programs/products are reported:
- IBM DB2 and DB2 Utilities
- IBM Communications Server for IPSEC
- IBM Communications Server for Hipersocket Large Messages.
I have added others to the list below...I also do not believe DFSORT is
zIIP-enabled in any way.
Tom Harper
IMS Utilities Development Team
Neon Enterprise Software, Inc.
Sugar Land, TX
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When I search Technical help database for mainframe operating
environments, I use the following keywords:
- msgMESSAGE when looking for given MESSAGE number
- WAITnnn when looking for given wait state
- ABENDccc when looking for given abend
Examples: msgICH408I, WAIT064, ABEND0C4.
That's what I
Hal Merritt wrote:
Can anyone point me to a list of products that support/exploit those
gadgets?
See:
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/advantages/ziip/index.html
In a brief:
CP - everything: z/OS, Linux, VM, VSE, TPF, CFCC
IFL - Linux, VM
ICF - CFCC (Coupling Facility Control Code)
zAAP -
BTW: Does anyone use VM and no other OS under it ?
I'm aware of single installation in Poland (they gone AFAIK).
Nobody does that -- they at least run CMS, and VM itself when testing.
But that probably isn't what you meant -- sure, there are still
CMS-only shops, though many of them are at
How many ppl in the world understand what a Systems Programmer does or a
Network Engineer does,,,I understand these are titles, but consider that
there is no depth of understanding of what 'we' do...Including many times in
our own families. My late wife didn't understand at all, she knew I worked
Tim,
After working for a MAJOR big 5 company in Europe for three years I
understand what you are saying. I was able to work in Europe after my job
was 'phased out', I always thought this was a strange phrase, anyway, the
Swiss had to justify why they needed me to come to work there, their rules
Yes, try INCORROUT, LOOP and of course any messages like MSGIST.
always works for me
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2. I don't think you ever want to disable LLA until the next IPL, unless that
IPL will be minutes later. The system really runs slow with LLA down. I know
that when I came in to make changes that required stopping LLA and renaming
datasets, the few jobs I ran after stopping LLA seemed to
P S wrote:
BTW: Does anyone use VM and no other OS under it ?
I'm aware of single installation in Poland (they gone AFAIK).
Nobody does that -- they at least run CMS, and VM itself when testing.
But that probably isn't what you meant -- sure, there are still
CMS-only shops, though many of them
Tom Marchant wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 07:28:59 -0500, P S wrote:
... specialty engines help keep the cost of
z/OS and friends high...
They do? Not that I can tell.
zAAP and zIIP specialty engines, which take over more and more work as
more and more products are enhanced to
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:46:24 -0600, Martin Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I prefer predictability...
Yes, of course the systems must stay up, and the data sets must be moved.
Both must occur, so it is not a matter of choice. That being the case, since
the only 'officially' recommended solution
I've read the manual(s) and queried my vendor. While I'm waiting for their
response, I thought perhaps someone in the group had run across this.
We were using Cestpair commands to replicate our DB2 data on our HDS 9960 prior
to our weekly backups. After moving to a HDS 9990V marketed by Sun,
I noticed that there are all kinds of old LOGGER datasets on many of our disk
packs. These are from 2007 back to 2004. Can these just be deleted? I'm not
that familiar with logger. Here are a couple of dataset names:
LOGGER.ATR.AISPLEX.RESTART.A001
LOGGER.DBPROD.E1FSCICS.DFHLOG.A0001548
In a message dated 11/12/2008 9:03:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,
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Just what in the H*** is a Mainframe Computer Expert?
Another example of a know-nothing with diarhea of the mouth and
constipation of brains.
Recession proof might be true for mainframe computer
Hi List,
I am in the process of planning a TS3400 mini-library with TS1120 tape
drives install for my z9-BC. I am looking for PSP buckets for this
(running z/OS 1.7 currently, with plans for 1.9). I found a 3592device
bucket, but am trying to find if there are any other buckets I need to
be
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:07:48 -0500, Peter Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Obviously I was wrong in asserting that the publications are correct with
respect to the sentence
During unallocation (when LLA is stopped or the system is reIPLed), the
system recatalogs the library data sets to the
Edward Jaffe wrote:
[...]
zAAP and zIIP specialty engines, which take over more and more work as
more and more products are enhanced to exploit them,
IMHO it is not enhancement. From financial point of view yes, but
technically the product is not better than version working on regular
CP. This
On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 08:49 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote:
zAAP and zIIP specialty engines [...] are elements of an overarching strategy
to gradually *lower* the price of z/OS even as MIPS use is exploding.
If the price was slashed overnight, the market would crash and IBM would
lose too much
I did it once before and now can't find my job.
Given that the data and index portions exist on a volume, how do I
re-define the cluster name into the catalog?
Thanks
John Norgauer
University of California Davis Medical Center
2315 Stockton Blvd
ASB 1300
Sacramento, Ca 95817
916-734-0536
Here's how:
//STEP1EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//*
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD *
DEFINE CLUSTER -
(NAME(HLQ.MLQ.CLUSTER) -
VOLUMES(volser) -
INDEXED -
Pommier, Rex R. wrote:
Hi List,
I am in the process of planning a TS3400 mini-library with TS1120 tape
drives install for my z9-BC. I am looking for PSP buckets for this
(running z/OS 1.7 currently, with plans for 1.9). I found a 3592device
bucket, but am trying to find if there are any other
Hi Tom,
Just noticed that your signature block indicated that you were at
Commerce Bank of Kansas City. Just wanted to say hi and see if any of
the folks that were a part of the team that I worked with when the
Commerce data center were still there. I worked with Phil Harris, Ned
Day, Brad
Now how is *this* one for interesting:
//COBOL PROC COBOPT=
//COB EXEC PGM=IGYCRCTL,REGION=4096K,PARM='COBOPT'
//SYSIN DD DISP=SHR,DSN=FJS.PDSE.COBOL(MEMBER)
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
// INCLUDE
Run an IXCMIAPU report on each of the logstreams. If datasets exist that the
logger does not know of, it should show up in the orphaned list. If it is
there, it can be deleted. If the logstream does not exist, you can delete the
dataset.
Larry Gray
Large Systems Engineering
Lowe's
On 11/13/2008 at 10:30 AM, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I'm not sure if I can use zIIP or zAAP for z/OS under VM.
Yes. z/VM will allow a z/OS guest to dispatch work on a zIIP or a zAAP. z/VM
itself will not use either of them.
Mark Post
Yes, that's the way it has always worked.
I just assumed that if you do any override, it overrides the entire DD
concatenation.
No, the override is by *DD statement*, not by *ddname*.
To override, say, the third and fifth statements, code:
//SYSLIB DD
// DD
// DD
Thanks listers
John Norgauer
University of California Davis Medical Center
2315 Stockton Blvd
ASB 1300
Sacramento, Ca 95817
916-734-0536
SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING.. Guilty, until proven innocent !! JN 2004
Hardware eventually breaks - Software eventually works anon
Thanks Gary. I'll have to figure out how to do this. I'm sure my boss knows
what the different logstreams are.
Eric
Gray wrote:
Run an IXCMIAPU report on each of the logstreams. If datasets exist that the
logger does not know of, it should show up in the orphaned list. If it is
Mark Post wrote:
z/VM will allow a z/OS guest to dispatch work on a zIIP or a zAAP.
Unless I'm mis-remembering, this is only true if you happen to be on
latest z/VM, on latest hardware, and happen to have an appropriately
defined LPAR.
Maybe not everyone meets all those criteria.
Shane ...
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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:13:55 +0100, R.S. wrote:
When I search Technical help database for mainframe operating
environments, I use the following keywords:
- msgMESSAGE when looking for given
On 11/13/2008 at 1:34 PM, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark Post wrote:
z/VM will allow a z/OS guest to dispatch work on a zIIP or a zAAP.
Unless I'm mis-remembering, this is only true if you happen to be on
latest z/VM, on latest hardware, and happen to have an appropriately
defined
On 13 Nov 2008 09:37:09 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Andrews)
wrote:
I have to conclude that IBM doesn't *want* more z/OS licenses. I don't
understand that, but neither do I have access to the Big Picture.
Wild conjecture can come up with some reasons - most of which don't
bode well for our
has any one ever run a Batch Job, processed steps 1,2,3,4,5 and abends in
step 6.. you fix the problem in step 6. Resubmit the job from the beginning and
it fails in step 3 with an IEC161I 040-002 ? Same everything except for
the space allocation change that I did to step 6.
Thanks
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Does IBM want to sell xNix mainframes?
If they sell, yes!
Or are they orienting differently - to sell powerful database machines,
powerful application servers, powerful web
servers... ?
Isn't that what a z/OS box is?
Or would they be happy to be
We are currently evaluating IBM's compression product but will only be using
it on 12 large DBs, is it even worth the DASD savings? We have about 300
VSAM/OSAM
HIDAM databases and are running IMS 9. We also have mucho storage available
but are concerned that some of our large DBs may go over the
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David,
You should probably be asking this question on the IMS listserv, but in
order to remove, change, or add compression to a data base you will need
to unload and then reload the data base using the old and new DBDs.
When you load the data base, unless you change the free space
parameters,
I would be curious to see the whole message. The IEC161-040 indicates a
problem with the catalog and an IDC3009I should be reviewed. The 002 is
insufficient to see which IDC3009I message to look at. Is the space change for
a VSAM data set?
IEC161I (return code 040) rc[(sfi)]-ccc,jjj,
Got it
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Pat Mihalec
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Got it.
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Interogate the rest of the message for the ICD3009I return code and
reason code. If you look up IEC161I RC 040 in Quickref it states to
look into the IDC3009I return and reason codes that are in the remainder
of the IEC161I message.
Looks like something is amiss with a VSAM file?
Thanks
C.
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Does IBM want to sell xNix mainframes?
If they sell, yes!
Do they think it will sell well enough?
Or are they orienting differently - to sell powerful database machines,
powerful application servers, powerful web
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I though HICPU was one but I don't see it on the list.
There are a few others, too, but I've forgotten them.
It's
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got it
good luck
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I would like to enable SYSNAME ON (ISPF Command ) for all TSO users. So
far
i could not find a way to issue ISPF command from REXX / CLIST in my
logon
procs. Even tried to modify ISPCFIGU using TSO ISPCCONF (with
increament
VERSION_LEVEL_OF_SITEWIDE_DEFAULTS ) DEFAULT_SYSTEM_NAME= ON
No, that's not the case, unless you're talking about mixing IFLs into
the LPAR as well. If you want IFLs as well, then yes, you need a z10
and z/VM 5.4.
Mark, are you saying that prior to z/VM-mode LPARs, VM would still
dispatch (qualifying) guest workload on zIIP/zAAP.
That's not the way I
Ken Porowski wrote:
snip
The fact that the z10 was a 'new' platform shows they
are/do consider it worthwhile. Of course it could just be a step
towards emulating z/Architecture over another instruction set. I heard
someone make the comment that even the z10 (and possibly earlier) were
RISC
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Could some one please help me in this in this , I need a Rexx routine to
be executed in the job so that that the file will be created for eg
Userid.abc ie the userid should be appended before the file name.
Very nice even I use it for just a few hours.
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/support/toolbar/
Roland
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On 11/13/2008 at 4:29 PM, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark, are you saying that prior to z/VM-mode LPARs, VM would still
dispatch (qualifying) guest workload on zIIP/zAAP.
That's not the way I read 208-249 - but unfortunately I don't have
access to machinery to test my doubts.
Yes.
Found where I read it (I did not believe it). I had already heard in
other discussions/presentations on the z10 that they were indeed CISC
chips. Probably someone assuming z6/Power 6 technology with RISC.
Another 'The Register' article titled 'IBM chills mainframe New Coke'
In addition, with z/VM 5.3, even if you don't have a zIIP or a zAAP, as long
as you are running on a processor that supports zIIPS and/or zAAPS, you
could define vitural specialty engines. Clearly no benefit for a production
environment, but could be useful in a POC for getting a specialty
Does anybody know how to rectify t
When I try to init the device - I get this
ICK091I F10A NED= 2105. .HTC.55.00011208
*73 ICK003D REPLY U TO ALTER VOLUME F10A CONTENTS, ELSE T
R 73,U
*IOS003A F10A,INTERVENTION REQUIRED
IEF450I SYSGM02 STEP1 - ABEND=S222 U REASON= 916
Yep, I have seen HICPU used also in searches
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Hello David,
I think you need to remove your commas from the PRIM and SEC parms ...
Cheers,
Maurice Clark
Principal Consultant - Architecture and Design
Global Solution Services
Hitachi Data Systems Australia
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Hi Lucy,
What results do you get from a devserv command? Is this a new install? Are
other volumes on this controller LUN working?
Linda Mooney
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Does anybody know how to rectify t
When I try to init
Thanks Maurice, but I did try that since the doc did not show commas in the
example.
Sadly, the same result.
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Jim,
You are right, my response was a little rude. I apologize.
A PDF is simply a stream of binary data - records are of no
consequence. You can store a PDF in any kind of dataset you want, so
long as you can read it from your COBOL program and load it into the
BLOB. RECFM=U, BLKSIZE=27998
Scott Ford writes:
A lot of 'younger' guys and gals don't want to learn z/OS or
any of it's components.
A lot do. [And, it should be noted, the mountain has moved. If you're a
J2EE programmer, for example, learning WebSphere Application Server for
z/OS is literally zero effort.(*)]
Those that
David Andrews writes:
It's easier, and cheaper
by far, to reduce a price tag than to do the zXXP engineering.
*A* price tag, maybe.
I have to conclude that IBM doesn't *want* more z/OS licenses.
I don't understand that, but neither do I have access to the
Big Picture.
Okay then. So that would
Eric,
Check MVS Setting Up a Sysplex SA22-7625. This will answer (all) your
sysplex questions.
See 11.2.3 LOGR Parameters for Administrative Data Utility for IXCMIAPU.
Kees.
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