Rebecca,
Yes you can consolidate Storage Groups in the way you described. I went
through the same exercise 10 years ago, going from 120 to 5 Storage Groups
in Production, and 188 to 5 in Development.
It was a mix of folding Storage Groups and file movement through attrition
and DFDSS moves.
Ron
Why do you think most of MVS is written in PLX instead of assembler so
IBM can hire college kids for nothing to program the OS
On the outside world you would need to code Assembler macros for
authorized services
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On Feb 20, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Pinnacle
snip
We have over 100 storage classes. So that really needs to be cleaned
up as well. Does anybody have any recommendations for approach to
reduce this to a reasonable number? What would you consider
reasonable?
/snip
The fewer the better, subject to business considerations. Although I
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Pinnacle wrote:
I just got this Email today for a Java developer at $90-110/hr.
Last
quote I got for an MVS systems contract in NJ was $65/hr. IBM's
plan
is working to perfection.
System z
nominally there was a business case that customers then would naturally move
much of their posix workload to MVS platform
I had been told that one reason for Posix support in MVS was to allow bids for
government contracts
supercomputer would send hyperchannel message to the ibm mainframe,
Joe:
MVS was written in PL/S at the outset in 1972-1974. The use of PL/S was
strategicas it was a structured language which would be more
self-documenting than assembler and therefore easier to debug.
To code any MVS component in assembler, you had to justify it and get a
deviation to do
Thank you Ron. I think I have a plan and will test it with the sandbox storage
groups and storage classes.
One question I haven't found the answer to: Is there anything special I have
to worry about with the DB2 storage groups and/or classes. I know DB2 has a
thing where it defines one or
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bshan...@rocketsoftware.com (Bob Shannon) writes:
I had been told that one reason for Posix support in MVS was to allow
bids for government contracts
...
4. Activate the new configuration (when doing this for the production and
development pools, it will be done on a Sunday when they are down just to
ease the worries of management - plus it is easy for us to get maintenance
windows on Sundays.)
.
.
.
Did I miss something important?
Yes,
On 2/20/2010 5:49 PM, Pinnacle wrote:
Dude,
Save your ad hominem attacks. I am nothing if not adaptable, and as
far as an attitude of entitlement, I'll give you the benefit of the
doubt and assume that you're unfamiliar with what's going on. Bring
some facts if you have any and let's have
All,
Aside from being a well versed low level developer, I was also an OS Systems
Programmer that also took on sub-systems and program products.
That said, many a moon ago, a wise man once posted about the role of a MVS
systems programmer (in the future that is) it was just a one line
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Gabriel Tully gjtu...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2/20/2010 5:49 PM, Pinnacle wrote:
major snippage
There are some good points being made here. The real systems jocks of the
past are getting thin on the ground (not so much thin themselves :-) ), but
the demand for
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 17:14:50 +, Ted MacNEIL
eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote:
Did I miss something important?
Yes, unfortunately you did.
If you are going to only do it on Sundays, you are going to take
forever to finish your project.
There are no performance impacts to modifying the config on
It won't be consective Sundays and all the prep work could be done ahead of
time. So the actual Sunday time would be less than 2 hours, including
testing.
I wish you well; there should be no Sunday time, but that's your choice.
There's no test like production.
You are not going to see it all.
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re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#69 LPARs: More or Less?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010d.html#71 LPARs: More or Less?
for other folklore tidbit ...
Since when did point and click become a language? Is more an indication of
your not getting it than the downward spiral of those damn kids and
rock-an^h^h^h^h^h^h^h indie music.
The momentum in computer science has always been to do more with less.
Rather than asperger-ing it out with ye mighty
I never doubt IBM's ability to do something wrong and destructive, though I'm
always mind-blown at how willing everyone else is to pay for it.
I agree 1000%.
And, it started with tier-based pricing in the 1980's.
And, they've grown to the point where the technology is not difficult, but the
zMan wrote:
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote:
Gabrial:
I used to have a copy of Adventure that worked fine under MVS (albeit 30
years ago). Its been ages since I have thought about it. A fellow sysprog
did the fortran conversion and we actually (at one time)
In a message dated 2/21/2010 4:13:38 P.M. Central Standard Time,
rfocht...@ync.net writes:
also remember The Death Ray has backfired and the entropy of the
Enterprise has been maximized. Perhaps you'll be more cautious in your
next life. :-)
I think Darren had a C version going
Scott,
Forgive me but indeed, point and click is exactly where we are. Take either
Visual Age
or Eclipse as an example.
Again, Forgive me but what exactly would be the definition of a good
developer in today
world ?? ..
I maintain, the kids that are coming out of college w/JAVA and or C++
On 20 Feb 2010 09:06:32 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
On 2/20/2010 11:41 AM, J R wrote:
They wore lab coats?
They were called MVS administrators?
I was being facetious, but I get it - allow me to back-peddle. Sorry, I
didn't mean to condescend. I'm just tired of
i personally preferred the replacement ship - the Fairie Queene F
Chris Hoelscher
IDMS/DB2 Database Architect
Humana Inc
502-476-2538
choelsc...@humana.com
you only need to test the programs that you want to work correctly
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Ah, Star Trek! Your ship has blown up. The vile Klingon hordes will conquer
the universe. Those were the days...
re:
Plurgh!
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At 19:02 +0100 on 02/19/2010, Thomas Berg
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 19:55:27 +, Ted MacNEIL
eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote:
I wish you well; there should be no Sunday time, but that's your
choice.
There's no test like production.
You are not going to see it all.
You shouldn't need any overtime/off-hours work to manage a new SMS
config.
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Anthony Thompson
anthony.thomp...@nt.gov.au wrote:
Plurgh!
That's plugh. :-)
Also xyzzy and plover...
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[ snip ]
But hang on ... let's look at the so called engineer's coming out of
school
today.
If it were not for the fancy point and click applications how far
would they
get ?.
Well, the engineers at
I'm writing a fairly large MVS batch application in C++. At several points
it is necessary to call library type routines that I am writing in
assembler. Several of the routines (unfortunately) need to use QSAM macros
and so need below-the-line storage.
Obviously I could do a GETMAIN or STORAGE
jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) writes:
Well, the engineers at Lockheed's (in)famous Skunk Works designed the
SR-71 Blackbird with slide rules and graph paper. No airplane since has
equaled its speed or altitude records.
i sponsored Boyd's briefings at ibm in the 80s ... he had done a lot of
I would write the routines with init/term (Constructors/Destructors)
functions that allocate and free resources. Have the
init return a handle that you pass to the process/term functions,
usually just an address of a control block. Think of stdio
fopen(), fclose(), fread() etc socket functions
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:00 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:
I'm writing a fairly large MVS batch application in C++. At several points
it is necessary to call library type routines that I am writing in
assembler. Several of the routines (unfortunately) need to use QSAM macros
and
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From: Gabriel Tully gjtu...@gmail.com
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer (warning:
Conley rant)
On 2/20/2010 5:49 PM, Pinnacle wrote:
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Tom,
You are
Thanks. Sounds a little risky to assume I am the first/only program in the
region -- the jobstep program -- but it's an idea.
There are provisions for using QSAM in 31 bit mode.
You mean AMODE 31? Yes, I'm real familiar with that.
So far as I know DCB must reside in 24-bit storage. So long as
Interesting concept: wrap the assembler routines in a C++ class with an
initiator that allocates the storage. All public access to the assembler
functions through a C++ method wrapper.
So a public C++ method might be int assemblerfunc(int functionalparm1, char
*functionalparm2);
In turn it would
One question I haven't found the answer to: Is there anything special I
have
to worry about with the DB2 storage groups and/or classes. I know
DB2 has a
thing where it defines one or the other (not sure which) but is there any
connection between the DB2 definition/setting and the SMS
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Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 5:27:19 PM
Subject: Re: Adventure - Or Colossal Cave Adventure
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Charles Mills wrote:
Interesting concept: wrap the assembler routines in a C++ class with an
initiator that allocates the storage. All public access to the assembler
functions through a C++ method wrapper.
So a public C++ method might be int assemblerfunc(int functionalparm1, char
From: Mike Myers m...@mentor-services.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Sun, February 21, 2010 8:24:19 AM
Subject: Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer (warning: Conley
rant)
Joe:
MVS was written in PL/S at the outset in 1972-1974. The use of
Well, I can add another problem to the list: since 2 days we have a
ghost connection to a PDSE directory. We can't delete the PDSE because
someone has a connection to the directory, but we have no idea who and
there is no Enq for the PDSE, which is the way to find the holder of the
connection
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:07 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:
Thanks. Sounds a little risky to assume I am the first/only program in the
region -- the jobstep program -- but it's an idea.
It is at the TCB level. It is not required to be the jobstep program or
TCB. I can understand
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