Been there done that. Replaced some heavily updated PDS with PDS-E and no
more problem as a PDS-E counts as one extent no matter how many extents it
actually uses.
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ROTFLMAO ... Quality ...
Reminds me of my first piece of work as a DB2 DBA newbie (early 90s)
trialing BMC and Platinum's Fast utilities suite ...
Trial, done wrote a document recommending BMC. Document got shelved as
the company did not have
the money to spend. Had to move to using
Indeed ... Personal favourite :
Stationery - Office equipment
Stationary - Not in motion
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Indeed ... Personal favourite :
Stationery - Office equipment
Stationary - Not in motion
Other rather common malappropriations:
Personal vs. personnel; principle vs. principal; right vs.
rite (and
In listserv%201009020401466401.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 09/02/2010
at 04:01 AM, Etienne Thijsse e.thij...@chello.nl said:
I have read that I can have a batch job write to the screen by coding
TERM=TS on the DD statement, like this:
//TERM DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*
It isn't true. Where did you
In listserv%201009020828301466.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 09/02/2010
at 08:28 AM, Etienne Thijsse e.thij...@chello.nl said:
Then I guess my JCL book is wrong; it says Coding TERM=TS on a
//SYSOUT DD statement sends the output data set back to the terminal
if it was submitted from a terminal. in
In aanlktikjz9t5llkjgaxp_+agtnq60t+rq5h0llmwn...@mail.gmail.com, on
09/01/2010
at 06:30 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said:
I was giving it a few years -- it has evolved a TINY bit.
Yes. In fact, it's evolved a TINY bit in the 2000's.
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In bay145-w440a9041ee4f038e1644bca3...@phx.gbl, on 09/01/2010
at 08:40 PM, J R jayare...@hotmail.com said:
Maybe I'm misremembering but I'm sure I was using SPF, not ISPF, in
or around 1974 -- and that *was* developed within IBM.
New version of same product, just as z/OS is still MVS.
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In
77142d37c0c3c34da0d7b1da7d7ca343c69...@nwt-s-mbx1.rocketsoftware.com,
on 09/02/2010
at 12:17 AM, Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com said:
Native TSO itself had barely crawled out of the primordial ooze in
the early 1970s.
A lot happened in the middle 1970's.
And the only thing supported
In listserv%201009021015154585.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 09/02/2010
at 10:15 AM, Etienne Thijsse e.thij...@chello.nl said:
That sounds suspiciously similar to the quoted text from the JCL
book... Maybe the key is that the background job must still run under
TSO? Is that possible?
No. The key is
In
of2b1c3d2b.cca4469c-on85257792.0041ff27-85257792.0042f...@us.ibm.com,
on 09/02/2010
at 08:11 AM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com said:
If you ask why
not CALLERKEY? you'd be asking a good question. It was because at
the time I thought our macros still had to support assembler F
ITYM XF.
In 4c7fff76.4000...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 09/02/2010
at 09:48 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said:
More functionality is usually better.
FSVO functionality. Adding options without thinking them through
usually makes things worse.
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In
1559058428-1283449765-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-17762363...@bda026.bisx.prod.on.blackberry,
on 09/02/2010
at 05:49 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca said:
Unfortunately, IBM manuals are (generally) written by people who have
English as a first language and understand nuances
In
f255efe0ecf08c4a9c1db6aff42354171156e...@ch2wpmail1.na.ds.ussco.com,
on 09/02/2010
at 07:00 AM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com said:
ISTR that PDF (now ISPF option 2) was the full-screen editor; an
add-on to SPF.
First, there was no PDF until the name changed to Interactive System
In
f255efe0ecf08c4a9c1db6aff42354171156e...@ch2wpmail1.na.ds.ussco.com,
on 09/02/2010
at 06:36 AM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com said:
Hmmm Not quite Allan Sherman's version :-)
I thought that I knew the entire Allan Sherman oeuvre; what did he do
to Mollie Malone?
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In 662723.44937...@web54603.mail.re2.yahoo.com, on 09/01/2010
at 02:14 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com said:
Model 91, the high-end of IBM s popular System/360 family,
Faux news seems to have written the 360/95 and 360/195 out of History.
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= Indeed ... Personal favourite :
=
= Stationery - Office equipment
= Stationary - Not in motion
=
= Other rather common malappropriations:
=
=
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In
In 4c80323b.5050...@ync.net, on 09/02/2010
at 06:24 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net said:
Peter, I suspect it's a carry-over from the days when DISP=OLD did
reserves on shared DASD. I may be wrong.
You are. DADSM does a reserve. Various applications do RESERVE. But
allocation does not.
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I thought that I knew the entire Allan Sherman oeuvre; what did
On 09/02/2010 08:13 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In 4c7fff76.4000...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 09/02/2010
at 09:48 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said:
More functionality is usually better.
FSVO functionality. Adding options without thinking them through
usually makes
I had a dBase application that I sent out, with full directions and
routine to do backups. When a user's copy got corrupted, she
realized that she usually neglected this option and before calling for
help, backed up the corrupted copy over her one good backup.
Sighting vs. citing, homophones, etc.:
Then there are all the Janus words, which are spelled the same, pronounced the
same, but have opposite meanings Fortunately, there are not many. Here are a
few in English:
1. cleave - to stick together or to be torn apart
2. oversight - watching over
All list,
I need to identify the IP of an OSA. Does anyone know the command that I
can used?
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All list,
I need to identify the IP of an OSA. Does
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Sighting vs. citing, homophones, etc.:
Then there are all the
Try
NETSTAT GATE
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All list,
I need to identify the IP of an OSA. Does anyone know the
6. let -- allow, stop (e.g., in tennis)
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com wrote:
Sighting vs. citing, homophones, etc.:
Then there are all the Janus words, which are spelled the same, pronounced
the same, but have opposite meanings Fortunately, there are not
I'm not sure that I really understand what you want. I have an OSA. It has
three different IP addresses, depending on the stack accessing it. But you may
want the z/OS operator command: D TCPIP,,NETSTAT,HOME which on one of my
systems reports:
RESPONSE=LIH1
EZZ2500I NETSTAT CS V1R10 TCPIP 011
My take on this issue.
I am a mainframe / DBMS advocate so of course I think there is some sort of
general flaw in a move of critical applications to smaller less understood
systems.
Think there are 3 parts to this problem
1. The triger failure its self which was hardware.
2. Work flow and
They are SYS1's but I wasn't sure if Recatalog would work for the
linears.
That won't be a problem.
Thanks
Alan
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I'd prefer that but z/OS is sent to us with the files as SYS1 so that's
what I have to use.
Alan
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On 2 Sep 2010 22:29:28 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
At 12:16 -0700 on 09/02/2010, Gerhard Adam wrote about Re: Virginia DOT outage:
Having been in on a couple of recovery actions due to major files
getting fouled up, I can believe that things could take up to a week.
How do
l...@garlic.com (Anne Lynn Wheeler) writes:
side-effect of unbundling, starting to charge for software, and
gov. looking over your shoulder ... misc. posts mentioning 23jun69
unbundling
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submain.html#unbundle
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#84 Set
Hi,
Did you see this article ?
Several threats and a long letter detailing what it calls “chronic
failures” of agreed service levels, Texas has made another move in its
efforts to fix a seven-year, $863 million outsourcing contract with IBM
that’s gone bad. The Texas Department of Information
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 08:38:59 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
One of the many reasons that I prefer computer languages. They are not
ambiguous. Well, they shouldn't be. I guess you could design one where the
meaning of a statement is not defined unambiguously. But it is definately
implemented
Is the month.txt file for smp/e holddata on the ibm ftp site
the current file one should get prior to an apply.
What is the full.txt for.
Tim Brown
Systems Specialist - Project Leader
Central Hudson Gas Electric
284 South Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Email: tbr...@cenhud.com
I'm just curious if any shops out there have really integrated staffs between
the mainframe and distributed groups. Do your mainframe application folks
also write distributed applications? Do your mainframe sysprogs also act as
Linux sysadmins and/or Windows server admins? Are your z/VM and
On 09/03/10 10:25, Tim Brown wrote:
Is the month.txt file for smp/e holddata on the ibm ftp site
the current file one should get prior to an apply.
What is the full.txt for.
Tim Brown
Systems Specialist - Project Leader
Central Hudson Gas Electric
284 South Ave
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
Email:
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 10:25:24 -0400, Tim Brown wrote:
Is the month.txt file for smp/e holddata on the ibm ftp site
the current file one should get prior to an apply.
What is the full.txt for.
From the URL you cited yesterday:
Linkname: IBM Enhanced HOLDDATA for z/OS and OS/390
URL:
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 10:25:24 -0400, Tim Brown wrote:
Is the month.txt file for smp/e holddata on the ibm ftp site
the current file one should get prior to an apply.
What is the full.txt for.
From the URL you cited yesterday:
Linkname: IBM Enhanced HOLDDATA for
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 10:29:06 -0400, Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.com wrote:
The full.txt file has holddata for the previous year. I always pull that
one anytime I use that site to obtain holddata. There's nothing wrong
with re-receiving holddata that you've already received once.
It didn't
On 3 Sep 2010 06:39:47 -0700, john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown,
John) wrote:
One of the many reasons that I prefer computer languages. They are not
ambiguous.
Well, they shouldn't be. I guess you could design one where the meaning of a
statement
is not defined unambiguously. But it is
On 3 Sep 2010 07:22:45 -0700, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin)
wrote:
And in common English:
Generic is something that is general, common, or inclusive rather than
specific, unique, or selective. (wikipedia)
Esoteric knowledge, in the dictionary (non-scholarly) sense, is thus that
which
On 9/3/2010 9:32 AM, Bill Fairchild wrote:
Sighting vs. citing, homophones, etc.:
Then there are all the Janus words, which are spelled the
same, pronounced the same, but have opposite meanings
Fortunately, there are not many. Here are a few in English:
And potentially the most dangerous:
It depends. It could be allocated and not getmained. The more accurate way
to find out is to use:
VERBX VSMDATA 'SUMMARY NOASIDS' (For global memory)
or
VERBX VSMDATA 'NOGLOBAL SUMM ASID()' (For local memory)
From there you should be able to find out if its allocated or free.
Look in MVS
Hi,av
I have a o/p file in the 1'st 5 bytes the data is a comp field s9(9) comp,
using
a jcl i need to o/p as a numeric data, how we can do this?
Regards
Ron
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On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net wrote:
And potentially the most dangerous: inflammable.
Mmm, no... inflammable is NEVER the opposite of flammable. That
would just be wrong.
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On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 10:52:46 -0400, John Eells wrote:
From the URL you cited yesterday:
Linkname: IBM Enhanced HOLDDATA for z/OS and OS/390
URL: http://service.software.ibm.com/holdata/390holddata.html
...
It's much simpler to follow Mark's suggestion. Always get the whole
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 10:59:05 -0500, Ron Thomas wrote:
I have a o/p file in the 1'st 5 bytes the data is a comp field s9(9) comp,
using
a jcl i need to o/p as a numeric data, how we can do this?
JCL does very little of its own; certainly not what you require. You
need to invoke (or write) a
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 10:52:46 -0400, John Eells wrote:
From the URL you cited yesterday:
Linkname: IBM Enhanced HOLDDATA for z/OS and OS/390
URL: http://service.software.ibm.com/holdata/390holddata.html
...
It's much simpler to follow Mark's
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Hi,av
I have a o/p file in the 1'st 5 bytes the data is a comp
field s9(9) comp, using
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 08:38:59 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
One of the many reasons that I prefer computer languages.
They are not ambiguous.
Not ambiguous, I suppose, but sometimes counter-intuitive.
What does this mean in C:
If A=B then.
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On 3 Sep 2010 08:25:13 -0700, gerh...@valley.net (Gerhard Postpischil)
wrote:
Then there are all the Janus words, which are spelled the
same, pronounced the same, but have opposite meanings
Fortunately, there are not many. Here are a few in English:
And potentially the most dangerous:
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 11:32:12 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote:
Not ambiguous, I suppose, but sometimes counter-intuitive.
What does this mean in C:
If A=B then.
I cherish languages of the ALGOL lineage for their use of =
as a comparison operator but not for assignment.
And some DEC languages used
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On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 08:38:59 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
One of the
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On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 11:32:12 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote:
Not
Ron Thomas wrote on IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
wrote on 09/03/2010 08:59:05 AM:
I have a o/p file in the 1'st 5 bytes the data is a comp field s9(9)
comp, using
a jcl i need to o/p as a numeric data, how we can do this?
Ron,
If you look here:
In a message dated 9/3/2010 4:58:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
peter.nutt...@euroclear.com writes:
We had the BMC utility suite the following week
Yeah we managed to justify Platinum Suite in a hurry. Paid for itself
within a year.
In a message dated 9/3/2010 8:05:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
howard.bra...@cusys.edu writes:
realized that she usually neglected this option and before calling for
help, backed up the corrupted copy over her one good backup.
Yeah, we had a research department have their big server
More info:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9183460/Northrop_Grumman_takes_blame_for_Va._IT_services_outage
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I would absolutely LOVE a grass roots campaign to eliminate = as a token in
any and all languages.
Comparison should be ==. Assignment should be :=.
In 1980, my final year at UOW, I wrote a paper stating exactly the same thing.
I got a good mark, and ended up with a double major (CS Stats).
There also are some fiascos that real-time
backup won't guard against.
such as?
Stan Weyman
Senior Software Engineer
stan.wey...@emc.com
where information lives
It is wise to keep in mind that neither
success nor failure is ever final
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From: IBM
Any DASD device is going to eventually fail. If the data is not backed up
efficiently (mirrored, physical or otherwise) and there aren't solid and, more
importantly, TESTED procedures in place for when that failure does happen (the
DMX-3 is an older piece of EMC hardware) then the DOT in
Summary of the article in the Computer World :
2005 : The Virginia Information Technologies Agency (VITA) outsources
the management of
its data centers to Northrop Grumman through a 10-year,
$2.4 billion contract
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Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 1:28 PM
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snip
Conclusion :
So Northrop Grumman is saying, they are having
Rick Fochtman said:
Peter, I suspect it's a carry-over from the days
when DISP=OLD did reserves on shared DASD.
I may be wrong.
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz said:
| I may be wrong.
| You are. DADSM does a reserve. Various applications do RESERVE. But
allocation does not.
If that statement was
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 10:43:55 -0500, Patrick Kappeler pkappe...@wanadoo.fr
wrote:
Thank you Radoslaw, interesting indeed, and unquestionable, viewpoint.
In fact we are foreseeing some restrictions, brought by some standards, that
would prohibit data with different security classes to reside in the
Our DBA's are all in one group, but everyone else is pretty much separated into
mainframe or non-mainframe.
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McKown, John
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 9:19 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Has anyone else had the pleasure so far of trying to reverse engineer parts
of IBM's BCPii implementation?? The straightforward stuff is easy to figure
out and get working but the ENF68 interface is supported by no docs (a promised
Info APAR has been in the works all summer). Has anyone
On 9/1/2010 2:04 AM, R.S. wrote:
I change OS and hardware much more frequently than my PC, laptop or Windows
servers.
I'm like you. My PC gets upgraded only when it breaks. I think that's because
there just isn't enough compelling new content in a new PC. Most of it seems
like change for
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005d5e05...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom,
on 09/03/2010
at 07:24 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:
http://www.lyricstime.com/allan-sherman-shticks-of-one-kind-and-half-a-dozen-of-the-other-lyrics.html
Thanks.
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[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 1:55 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: PC Upgrade (Was: How often do you upgrade your zOS
operating system?)
On 9/1/2010 2:04 AM,
--snip-
Model 91, the high-end of IBM s popular System/360 family,
Faux news seems to have written the 360/95 and 360/195 out of History.
---unsnip---
When have you EVER
snip--
If you ask why
not CALLERKEY? you'd be asking a good question. It was because at
the time I thought our macros still had to support assembler F
ITYM XF. Assembler F would have been well and truly dead[1] by the
time
No argument but, as we all know, Stuff happens.
Here on The List, we all have the benefit of long experience and a
very high set of quality standards. Not every shop enjoys these attributes.
Don't forget: the Titanic was built by people with high standards and
long experience. And the Space
---snip
Having been in on a couple of recovery actions due to major files
getting fouled up, I can believe that things could take up to a week.
How do major files get fouled up with adequate backups?
Or audit files.
No argument but, as we all know, Stuff happens.
Here on The List, we all have the benefit of long experience and a
very high set of quality standards. Not every shop enjoys these attributes.
Sorry, but that's no excuse. When someone sets themselves up as being the
outsourcer and is being paid
That works fine for files managed by a DBMS. What about ordinary PS/PO
datasets that may get updated several times between backup cycles?
They need to be backed up more frequently if they're that critical. This
isn't rocket science.
-snip--
I would absolutely LOVE a grass roots campaign to eliminate = as a token
in any and all languages. Comparison should be ==. Assignment should be
:=. No ambiguity there. No intuitive meaning for newbies to make an
--snip
Yeah, we had a research department have their big server stolen
from secure closet. IBM said they could replace overnight-which they did.
Then our server folks got AIX up and trucking, we're ready for the backups.
In listserv%201009030859130071.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 09/03/2010
at 08:59 AM, Avram Friedman ibmsysp...@geek-sites.com said:
As an example ever since VSAM recoverable catalogs
The ones that were less stable than nonrecoverable catalogs?
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In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005d5e05...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom,
on 09/03/2010
at 11:56 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:
I would absolutely LOVE a grass roots campaign to eliminate = as a
token in any and all languages. Comparison should be ==.
== is an abomination.
In listserv%201009031147343643.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 09/03/2010
at 11:47 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
And some DEC languages used left-arrow for assignment when that was
a prevalent graphic on Teletype print elements. (I believe ASCII
usurped the code point with underscore.
I
In
1458820400-1283538012-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2998234...@bda026.bisx.prod.on.blackberry,
on 09/03/2010
at 06:20 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca said:
== is a good choice for comparison.
It's ugly.
:= is ALGOL
So? If you adopt := for another language then using = for
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Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:34 PM
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Subject: Re: Virginia DOT outage
-snip---
This after numerous EMC marketting reps assured me, of a period of
several months, that EMC had NEVER experienced a storage failure that
resulted in ANY outage.
AND they assured me that no EMC customer had ever lost a single byte of
data due to EEMC product failure.
Repeat after me:
---snip
I'd prefer that but z/OS is sent to us with the files as SYS1 so that's
what I have to use.
unsnip
Unless politics is getting in the way, a simple parmlib update
We have no separation based on platform.
McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com 9/3/2010 10:19 AM
I'm just curious if any shops out there have really integrated staffs between
the mainframe and distributed groups. Do your mainframe application folks
also write distributed applications? Do
This after numerous EMC marketting reps assured me, of a period of several
months, that EMC had NEVER experienced a storage failure that resulted in ANY
outage.
I KNOW of one in Canada in the mid-1990's.
What ever he's smoking, I'd like some.
-
I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor
On 3 Sep 2010 12:06:49 -0700, john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown,
John) wrote:
I'm a Linux user on my personal equipment. And one, lone, Mac Mini. I've never
really the upgraded Mac OSX, just applied recommended patches. My Linux boxes
- well one is very old and running a 2003 version of
On 3 Sep 2010 12:23:18 -0700, gada...@charter.net (Gerhard Adam)
wrote:
That works fine for files managed by a DBMS. What about ordinary PS/PO
datasets that may get updated several times between backup cycles?
They need to be backed up more frequently if they're that critical. This
isn't
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 13:40:26 -0500, Walt Farrell wrote:
... But it sounds like some
kind of restriction based on a perceived problem, but where they are not
telling you the problem they're trying to resolve.
That reminds me of something I read in
On 3 Sep 2010 09:51:53 -0700, john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown,
John) wrote:
As shown, nothing because it is invalid syntax. grin
But with parenthesis around the A=B, it means exactly what it says: Assign the
value of B to A, then test to see if it is equal to zero or not. That is where
On 3 Sep 2010 12:42:52 -0700, shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz
, Seymour J.) wrote:
I would absolutely LOVE a grass roots campaign to eliminate = as a
token in any and all languages. Comparison should be ==.
== is an abomination.
Assignment should be :=.
There I agree, although I would
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 3:20 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Virginia DOT outage
On 3 Sep 2010 09:51:53 -0700, john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown,
Warning: This email was cross posted to IBM-MAIN, IBMVM and VSE-L Lists.
As z196 has a code name of *Gryphon* before announcement, other zSeries
has similar names, as *T-Rex* (z990??)
*Pterodactylus*/ (z890???)
Anyone has all family names?
z900 -
z800 -
z990 - /*T-Rex*/
z890 -
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No argument but, as we all know, Stuff happens.
Here on The List, we all have the benefit of long experience and a
very high set of quality standards. Not every shop enjoys these attributes.
Sorry, but that's
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