Re: Cheryl's List #148

2011-03-13 Thread Timothy Sipples
A few follow-up comments: 1. It is possible (and common) to see different MSU values for z/OS and, for example, for DB2 in SCRT reports. That is, a particular LPAR could peak at 10 MSUs for z/OS and peak at 8 MSUs for DB2 (and 7 MSUs for CICS), or whatever. All the major IBM products (plus

Re: Stack - Another misnomer

2011-03-13 Thread john gilmore
Seymour in my experience can respond to his own critics. This time, however, . . . 'FILO' is transparent. It means first in, last out by analogy with 'FIFO', first in, first out. Seymour did not invent it. Constructs of this sort are due chiefly to Knuth, and about such criticisms of

Re: IBM Service Request (SR)

2011-03-13 Thread Christian Gilmore
Hello, IBM Service Request (SR) is supported via the Help link on the left navigation within SR or via e-mail. While this may be a departure from how IBMLink support is handled, it is in line with how IBM generally delivers support on its enterprise Electronic Support web applications. The direct

Backup OFFLINE disks

2011-03-13 Thread Arye Shemer
Hello forumers, Are there any known options (in z/OS environment) to backup offline ECKD disks ? Thanks, Arye Shemer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with

Re: Backup OFFLINE disks

2011-03-13 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 03/13/2011 01:14 PM, Arye Shemer wrote: Hello forumers, Are there any known options (in z/OS environment) to backup offline ECKD disks ? Thanks, Arye Shemer. Why? FDR Dump/Restore utilities used to support this in some manner, but I always found this concept dubious. The whole point

Re: Backup OFFLINE disks

2011-03-13 Thread Stephen Mednick
Innovation Data Processing's FDRINSTANT product is designed to do this. Apart from being able to backup offline volumes created by the replication technologies of the various storage vendors, it's also able to backup z/VM and z/LINUX volumes that are not able to be mounted to a z/OS operating

Re: Backup OFFLINE disks

2011-03-13 Thread Ron Hawkins
Joel, DFSMSdss backup with dump conditioning and FlashCopy may not work equally well with all types of in-system replication, such as Shadowimage or Timefinder. DFSMSdss/FlashCopy also has limitations where the source volume for FlashCopy is offline to the system where ADRDSSU is running, such as

Re: Cheryl's List #148

2011-03-13 Thread Linda Mooney
Hi Timothy, I certainly can't speak for all shops, but for mine and I suspect others, there are problems acheiving reductions (leveling, if you will) in the 4 hour peak.  We used to run 24x7, until the budget mess hit.  Now we run 16x5.  With the next round of layoffs planned, it will

Re: FICON Cascade and Brocade 5000 DASD ports

2011-03-13 Thread R Hey
Thanks Guys, Is there a price to pay for this 'sharing'? What are the +/- of sharing? TIA, Rez -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN

Re: Backup OFFLINE disks

2011-03-13 Thread Mark Post
On 3/13/2011 at 02:14 PM, Arye Shemer aryeshe...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any known options (in z/OS environment) to backup offline ECKD disks ? Written some time ago, but it might still build and run: http://www.clueful.co.uk/mbeattie/s390/offlindr.jcl Mark Post

Re: Stack - another misnomer

2011-03-13 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In f255efe0ecf08c4a9c1db6aff42354171404a...@ch2wpmail1.na.ds.ussco.com, on 03/12/2011 at 11:20 PM, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com said: OK, what's a FILO queue, and how does it differ from, say, a LIFO queue? FILO is first in last out, also known as pushdown or cafeteria stack. Same as LIFO,

NY Metro NaSPA Chapter Meeting: Tuesday, 22 March 2011

2011-03-13 Thread Mark Nelson
The next meeting of the NY Metro NaSPA Chapter will be on Tuesday, 22 March in room 1219 at the IBM Building at 590 Madison Avenue, New York City, from 10:00 AM until 4:30 PM. We have a full-day of great sessions focusing on the new z196 and the latest z/OS releases including: zManager, Jeff

Re: Cheryl's List #148

2011-03-13 Thread zMan
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Timothy Sipples timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com wrote: snip 4. I'm also puzzled why sub-capacity licensing isn't even more popular. With customers or vendors? For vendors, it's a chance to collect less money...not so appealing. For customers, yeah, IF the vendor

Re: Cheryl's List #148

2011-03-13 Thread Timothy Sipples
Responding to Linda, I think you'll want to compare business cases with your management. Case #1: Business as usual. Case #2: Minimize the cost of overnight operators as much as possible (through increased automation, alerting, etc.), and compare the cost of that skeleton crew (of one?) to the

Re: Cheryl's List #148

2011-03-13 Thread zMan
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Timothy Sipples timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com wrote: Mainframes are *extremely* operator-efficient Hmm...while certainly true, I sure hope IBM marketing doesn't seize on that as the next mainframe marketing tactic! That's worse than the Magic Box... -- zMan --

Re: IBM Service Request (SR)

2011-03-13 Thread Don Williams
Hi Christian, Sorry, I'm kind of overwhelmed with all the links on the SR home page. There must be over a hundred links (direct links or links in pull downs across the top, down the left side, down the right side, and across the bottom). I've not had the time to explore most of them. I am still

Re: Backup OFFLINE disks

2011-03-13 Thread Brian Westerman
I also have a offline backup and restore program that we are considering marketing in the near future for MUCH less than FDRInstant with FDR. It's currently in Beta, but there are no known issues in the past 40+ days. It's purpose is to be able to backup a flashcopy volume, or simply to be