In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 03/04/2008
at 06:26 PM, Roger Bolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Would you guys stop talking about DCF (Document Composition Facility,
5748-XX9) a.k.a. Script in the past tense? It is still available for
z/OS, z/VM, and z/VSE.
Yes, but aren't DCF, BookMaster and
That doesn't necessarily make them DEAD. And with B2H there's a certain
element of continued vitality. Slight, mind you. :-(
Martin (who uses Bookie and B2H every day)
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I think you're thinking of the OS/390 Softcopy Print feature.
While BookManager books can be built from DCF source books, there are
other flavors of BookManager Build that I think can build from other
types of source material.
The OS/390 Softcopy Print feature, on the other hand, was for
In a message dated 3/7/2008 12:25:50 P.M. Central Standard Time,
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being enabled. This feature was available from OS/390 1.2 (or 1.3 maybe)
till OS/390 2.10. The residual effect is that there is still Enablement
checking which must now be used on DCF, but you no
I don't know for sure about that book, but yes, a lot (if not all) of the
Information Developers I know now use workstation based tools instead of
BookMaster and DCF.
Some Information Development groups don't even produce BookManager format
output but produce some books in PDF format only
Roger Bolan wrote:
Some Information Development groups don't even produce BookManager format
output but produce some books in PDF format only now.
Eclipse-based Infocenters are the in thing now. It's all XML based.
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On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 21:26:25 -0600, Paul Gilmartin
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Alas, whenever I search for a z/Series PoOP online in HTML/Book format
as opposed to PDF, I conclude that some department within IBM thinks
of DCF only in the past tense. Has PoOP authoring abandoned DCF for
a competing
Alan Altmark wrote:
I'm not sure why you're tying book format to DCF. DCF is rarely used with
System z publications, as book maintenence and formatting were moved to
workstations years ago. The tools can produce a variety of output formats,
depending on the requirement.
What software
Edward Jaffe wrote:
What software do they use?
It's a mixture of internal tools and some commercially-available SGML
workstation products. I don't think the details are confidential, but I
don't know them beyond what I just said. I briefly looked into using
the workbench some time ago.
In a message dated 3/5/2008 1:17:11 P.M. Central Standard Time,
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workstation products. I don't think the details are confidential, but I
don't know them beyond what I just said. I briefly looked into using
the workbench some time ago.
But isn't the z/OS Book
Would you guys stop talking about DCF (Document Composition Facility,
5748-XX9) a.k.a. Script in the past tense? It is still available for
z/OS, z/VM, and z/VSE.
http://www.infoprintsolutionscompany.com/internet/wwsites.nsf/vwwebpublished/dcfhome_z_us
--Roger
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 18:26:32 -0700, Roger Bolan wrote:
Would you guys stop talking about DCF (Document Composition Facility,
5748-XX9) a.k.a. Script in the past tense? It is still available for
z/OS, z/VM, and z/VSE.
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
02/29/2008
at 12:23 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I guess because I prefer content over form.
I found that I had more control over form with DCF et al; the WYSIAYG
software showed me the current text layout instead of the markup and left
me guessing as to
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:57:58 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
02/26/2008
at 12:55 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I'd hate to do word processing on z/OS
Why? And if you want WYSIWYG, you can get it as easily under Linux as
under
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/29/2008
at 05:47 AM, Sebastian Welton [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I have to agree with John here. Although not zOS I used to use Lotus
1-2-3 and Wordperfect under VM and they were so difficult to use. Script
was far easier and when I worked out how to embed GIF files
Use the freely available B2H - if you can use the intermediate HTML it
generates. I use it all the time - but only for creating HTML to display
in Firefox.
Martin
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The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
I was the one advocating Script for word processing, not John. If IBM ever
ports the products to Linux or
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
02/26/2008
at 12:55 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I'd hate to do word processing on z/OS
Why? And if you want WYSIWYG, you can get it as easily under Linux as
under windoze.
(remember DW/370?
Yes. I also remember DCF, BookMaster and BookManager BUILD.
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?
infotype=ANsubtype=CAhtmlfid=897/ENUS108-154appname=USN
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Nice green stripe.
Big page only 1 Meg. Interesting.
HiperDispatch ... way overdue.
16 Gig HSA.
anything else of interest ??? ... :0)
Shane ...
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:05:16 +1000, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nice green stripe.
Big page only 1 Meg. Interesting.
HiperDispatch ... way overdue.
16 Gig HSA.
anything else of interest ??? ... :0)
Curiously missing today is a new z/VM announcement or preview. But there is
some
Shane wrote:
Nice green stripe.
Big page only 1 Meg. Interesting.
HiperDispatch ... way overdue.
16 Gig HSA.
anything else of interest ??? ... :0)
There is no ETR feature listed.. so I presume this is STP only..
Roy
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No, ETR comes by default in z10.
Marian Gasparovic
IBM Slovakia
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Roy Hewitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shane wrote:
Nice green stripe.
Big page only 1 Meg. Interesting.
HiperDispatch ... way overdue.
16 Gig HSA.
anything else of interest ???
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:05:16 +1000, Shane wrote:
anything else of interest ??? ... :0)
AutoIPL! (At last!)
AutoIPL support will provide the capability to request that the system
automatically IPL
stand-alone dump, z/OS, or both, when a disabled wait state is requested by a
system
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:05:16 +1000, Shane wrote:
Nice green stripe.
Big page only 1 Meg. Interesting.
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anything else of interest ??? ... :0)
Hmm... is it interesting that it doesn't do Windows Server (yet)?
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:05:16 +1000, Shane wrote
McKown, John wrote:
snip
[shudder]
From what I've read, you can run Windows on a zArch machine using the
BOCHS emulation code. Now, why would I want to put the world's least
reliable OS onto the world's most reliable hardware?
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McKown, John wrote:
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[shudder]
From what
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John,
Sounds like things are looking up for you!
snip
Perhaps so! [grin} Our new head of Open Systems is said to be an AIX
bigot. I've heard it said that he wants to replace as many Windows
servers (Intel) with AIX servers (pSeries) as possible. Well, it's a
start. I've also heard that he would
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:37:02 -0600, McKown, John wrote:
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:05:16 +1000, Shane wrote:
Nice green stripe.
Big page only 1 Meg. Interesting.
...
anything else
Good ideas on both counts. AIX is good stuff, and so is pSeries.
Jon
snip
Our new head of Open Systems is said to be an AIX
bigot. I've heard it said that he wants to replace as many Windows
servers (Intel) with AIX servers (pSeries) as possible. Well, it's a
start. I've also heard that he
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:00:33 -0600, Staller, Allan wrote:
John,
Sounds like things are looking up for you!
It seems as if the longevity of the managers at John's shop is about 12-18
months (about the life of a typical CIO). Give this guy some time and he'll be
out of there, too. Right,
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Good ideas on both counts. AIX is good stuff, and so
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 12:00:33 -0600, Staller, Allan
and 3380s.
But, all the damn software is Windows based.
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If it's Microsoft .NET stuff it should be possible to run it on System z
either using Mono (http://www.mono-project.com) (on Linux on z, for example
SLES 9) or using software from Mainsoft
(http://www.mainsoft.com/solutions/serverconsolidation.aspx) (on WebSphere
Application Server for z/OS or for
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If it's Microsoft .NET stuff it should be possible to run it on System
z
either using Mono
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