Re: VSM Changes in z/OS 1.10: Beta Systems Software

2009-02-02 Thread Barbara Nitz
>The probably came from the IeaInitRegsTask trap. It's pretty >scary when you come across code that uses a base register without >loading it first. Well, the guilty reg is R14, and the problem was not really BETA, but instead the fact that (let's see if I get that right) variables supp

Re: VSM Changes in z/OS 1.10: Beta Systems Software

2009-01-30 Thread Edward Jaffe
Barbara Nitz wrote: We finally IPL'd for the first time with all dirty getmain traps active, and it was a desaster. The first to fold was Beta Systems Subsystem Initialization (actually, BSA code). They get a pic4 attempting to store into PSA with the guilty register bein x''. What I d

Re: VSM Changes in z/OS 1.10: Beta Systems Software

2009-01-30 Thread Barbara Nitz
Ed Jaffe asked: >Is it safe to assume that use of IgvInitGetmain could have exposed this >issue on earlier z/OS releases? To answer Eds earlier question: YES! We finally IPL'd for the first time with all dirty getmain traps active, and it was a desaster. The first to fold was Beta Systems Subs

Re: VSM Changes in z/OS 1.10: Beta Systems Software

2009-01-23 Thread Edward Jaffe
Jim Mulder wrote: If you are referring to the EDCXSTRT error, this was an IBM problem described by APAR PK76106. Although it's not clear why "Simply installing IBM PTF UK42299 will not enable our [Beta] products to run correctly." The IBM code fixed by PTF UK42299 is linked into and

Re: VSM Changes in z/OS 1.10: Beta Systems Software

2009-01-23 Thread Edward Jaffe
Barbara Nitz wrote: Actually, I found the text of the Beta flash rather confusing, so I called someone in Beta (not the hotline) and was told: 1. Beta Systems found it very hard to get IBM to acknowledge that the bug was in that EDCXSTRT lmod. :-) 2. As Jim already indicated, they need to r

Re: C without LE [was: RE: VSM Changes in z/OS 1.10: Beta Systems Software]

2009-01-14 Thread Ed Gould
Barbara, I was looking at your reply and after a few hours this company rang a small bell in my head. I couldn't get rid of and I started to vaguely remember a product we got in house about 13 years ago. I think (I really could be off in this) that it was a product from Europe and I couldn't g

Re: C without LE [was: RE: VSM Changes in z/OS 1.10: Beta Systems Software]

2009-01-14 Thread Thomas David Rivers
Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Barbara Nitz Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: VSM Changes in z/OS 1.10: Beta Systems Software 3. Beta

Re: VSM Changes in z/OS 1.10: Beta Systems Software

2009-01-14 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 01/14/2009 08:27:05 AM: > Somewhere in this thread APAR OA27291 was mentioned. I just had a look > at it and I think the examples are in error. Here is an extract from > it: > > Consider the following examples to better understand VSM > behavior in z/

C without LE [was: RE: VSM Changes in z/OS 1.10: Beta Systems Software]

2009-01-14 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf Of Barbara Nitz > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:52 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: VSM Changes in z/OS 1.10: Beta Systems Software > 3. Beta S

Re: VSM Changes in z/OS 1.10: Beta Systems Software

2009-01-14 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
>The IBM code fixed by PTF UK42299 is linked into and thus distributed >with the ISV product. Somewhere in this thread APAR OA27291 was mentioned. I just had a look at it and I think the examples are in error. Here is an extract from it: Consider the following examples to better understand VS

Re: VSM Changes in z/OS 1.10: Beta Systems Software

2009-01-14 Thread Shane
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 06:51 +0100, Barbara Nitz wrote: ... > 3. Beta Systems said that they have been using C (or C+ or C++ or > something) for *years* *without* the need for LE. And I thought > *that* was only available as MetalC starting with 1.10. Not displaying an (ex-)IBMers bias are you Bar

Re: VSM Changes in z/OS 1.10: Beta Systems Software

2009-01-13 Thread Barbara Nitz
>> The IBM code fixed by PTF UK42299 is linked into and thus distributed >>with the ISV product. >Thanks Jim. I figured that was the answer, but wasn't sure based on reading >the APAR and my lack of knowledge in this area and knowing that LE fixes >are generally just "run time". >I know you don't

Re: VSM Changes in z/OS 1.10: Beta Systems Software

2009-01-13 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:17:43 -0500, Jim Mulder wrote: >IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 01/13/2009 >03:14:09 PM: > >> >> If you are referring to the EDCXSTRT error, this was an IBM problem >> described by APAR PK76106. Although it's not clear why "Simply >> installing IBM PTF UK42299 wi

Re: VSM Changes in z/OS 1.10: Beta Systems Software

2009-01-13 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 01/13/2009 03:14:09 PM: > > If you are referring to the EDCXSTRT error, this was an IBM problem > described by APAR PK76106. Although it's not clear why "Simply > installing IBM PTF UK42299 will not enable our [Beta] products to run > correctly." T

Re: VSM Changes in z/OS 1.10: Beta Systems Software

2009-01-13 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:02:53 -0500, Guy Gardoit wrote: >Hmmm, a vendor who uses the poor programming practice of not initializing >their GETMAIN'ed storage. You always get bit in the "end" by assuming. > >Guy Gardoit >z/OS Systems Programming If you are referring to the EDCXSTRT error, this wa

Re: VSM Changes in z/OS 1.10: Beta Systems Software

2009-01-13 Thread Guy Gardoit
Hmmm, a vendor who uses the poor programming practice of not initializing their GETMAIN'ed storage. You always get bit in the "end" by assuming. Guy Gardoit z/OS Systems Programming On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Mark Zelden wrote: > FYI - this note just came to me: > ==

VSM Changes in z/OS 1.10: Beta Systems Software

2009-01-13 Thread Mark Zelden
FYI - this note just came to me: == Dear Users Beta Systems Product management has asked us to forward to you an urgent message concerning the compatibility of our standard products with IBM's z/OS 1.10. Please forward this information to your customers, if th