Re: Dataset PACK profile

2014-12-29 Thread Mike Schwab
If the PACK is on, you can only read it with ISPF. It can't be read by any other process. On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 12:50 AM, mf db dbajava...@gmail.com wrote: What happens internally when this feature is ON ? Instructions wise any change happens internally ? On 29 Dec 2014 12:10,

Re: Dataset PACK profile

2014-12-29 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-12-29 o 07:50, mf db pisze: What happens internally when this feature is ON ? Instructions wise any change happens internally ? PACK ON means some kind of text compression. It is transparent to the ISPF editor (you always see unpacked content), but it cannot be recognized by

Re: Slushware

2014-12-29 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-12-28 o 14:55, Phil Smith pisze: Alan Altmark wrote: Microcode is burned into the CPUs, being the on-chip logic that actually runs the native instruction set. Alan, by that definition, none of us have ever applied a microcode patch. Yet I remember distinctly doing so (box after

RACF password history was: AW: //STARTING JOB ...

2014-12-29 Thread nitz-...@gmx.net
Check out the SETROPTS HISTORY and MINCHANGE options if you haven't already. Thanks, Tom! I did that and set history accordingly. No need for an exit, then! I would set MINCHANGE only if I see that someone tries to change the many passwords that are now kept to get to the (n+1)th password.

Forced password change held to be harmful -- Was RE: RACF password history was: AW: //STARTING JOB ...

2014-12-29 Thread Charles Mills
Why force your users to change passwords at all? I know everyone does it but what problems does it solve? 1. Bob needs access to some dataset that his userid does not grant. So Alice loans him her logon credentials. Forcing Alice to change her password prevents Bob from continuing to masquerade

Re: Slushware

2014-12-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 7536935054212770.wa.alanaltmarkus.ibm@listserv.ua.edu, on 12/29/2014 at 12:09 AM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com said: When we first started using the word microcode I believe it was correct. Then we split the microcode into a burned-in part and a loadable part, so the word came

Re: Merry Christmas

2014-12-29 Thread Dazzo, Matt
Thank you and a Merry Christmas to you and yours. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Merry Christmas Merry Christmas to you and

Re: Dataset PACK profile

2014-12-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
You can do internet searches on ISPF PACK FORMAT and find many entries on it. You can go to www.ibm.com and search on ISPF PACK and get a lot of information You can go to ISPF and in the EDIT panel press PF1 (HELP) and find information on it. As others have said, only ISPF can read ISPF PACK

activate new applid w/o IPLing

2014-12-29 Thread Judy Ellis
Hello, Is it possible to activate a new applid in VTAM without IPLing. Regards, Judy Ellis -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

Re: activate new applid w/o IPLing

2014-12-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
What type of applid? Mostly Yes. Check out the V NET command for syntax. And if you have not done so, you may wish to join the TCPIP list which can also be helpful. TCPIP To subscribe, send mail to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the command (paste it!) in the e-mail message body:

Re: Merry Christmas

2014-12-29 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Seasonal greetings from Israel. ITschak Thank you and a Merry Christmas to you and yours. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: ISPF problem with userid.ISRnnnn.BACKUP

2014-12-29 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 07:41:10 -0500, Steve Thompson wrote: My point about splitting is I just run a typical split with top and bottom. I do not used named splits, rings, etc. Just a single simple split. Really? I don't think I could work like that. In fact, I have my own ISPCFIGU module to allow

Re: Slushware

2014-12-29 Thread Phil Smith
Thanks, Alan-as with so many such things, the real answer is thus It depends! (where have I heard THAT before?). And it's a multivariable dependency: when, where, why, how... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Slushware

2014-12-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6469079386912310.wa.alanaltmarkus.ibm@listserv.ua.edu, on 12/29/2014 at 10:44 AM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com said: Yes, lots of articles, and at the end of the day, you still have no idea how the machine you have is implemented. Well, we used to, back when customers could

Re: Slushware

2014-12-29 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Am 29.12.2014 um 17:44 schrieb Alan Altmark: But my experience within IBM is that that we love talking about technology. In fact, we sometime love it a bit too much, particularly when it's new and it hasn't completed its evolutionary journey. That's true. I'm in the software business, and for

Re: JES2 C/I Data (re: PARMDD issue)

2014-12-29 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2014-12-23 at 08:53 -0500, Steve Thompson wrote: Could someone give me a clue as to where converter text is defined? Here are some comments from an exit I wrote in 1990. I don't know how much of it is still accurate, so take it with a container ship full of NaCl.

Re: Slushware

2014-12-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 10:44:20 -0600, Alan Altmark wrote: Don't get me wrong. A machine that was designed to let you change the underlying hardware design without altering the programming architecture of the machine was very smart. And way cool. And a major move forward in the industry.

Re: Dataset PACK profile

2014-12-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 08:11:37 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: You can do internet searches on ISPF PACK FORMAT and find many entries on it. You can go to www.ibm.com and search on ISPF PACK and get a lot of information You can go to ISPF and in the EDIT panel press PF1 (HELP) and find information

Re: Slushware

2014-12-29 Thread Martin Packer
I suspect returning to that level of frankness would get you into machine instruction timings - and all that goes with it. :-) Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com

SlickEdit (was: ISPF problem ...)

2014-12-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 10:17:41 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: Really? I don't think I could work like that. In fact, I have my own ISPCFIGU module to allow me to go to 32 split screens. I don't often go beyond about a dozen, but I found 8 to be too limiting. This is in large part a desperate

Re: Dataset PACK profile

2014-12-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 9653880694947196.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 12/29/2014 at 11:48 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: If it's well enough documented one might write a filter to support othe applications. I suspect that there are 3rd party utilities that

Re: Slushware

2014-12-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ofc877ce3b.427af753-on80257dbd.0062c865-80257dbd.0062e...@uk.ibm.com, on 12/29/2014 at 06:00 PM, Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com said: I suspect returning to that level of frankness would get you into machine instruction timings - and all that goes with it. :-) Those were already

Re: Dataset PACK profile

2014-12-29 Thread Joel Ewing
On 12/29/2014 10:39 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 17:13:30 -0600, Joel Ewing wrote: SWITCH IT OFF may not be a trivial thing to do if you are talking about a PDS used by multiple users. The edit default for PACKED, like a number of ISPF edit parameters, is not maintained in

Re: Slushware

2014-12-29 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com (Alan Altmark) writes: Yet you never hear millicode being applied to storage controllers or other parts outside of the processor. And you know as well as I do that they aren't replacing microcode on the processor chips. They're replacing the OS and the applications