Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-21 Thread Charles Mills
Amazing the folks on IBM-MAIN. What can be done with a 1937 Bugatti that cannot be more easily done with a 2015 Honda? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of STEVEN DAHARI Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 2:28 AM

Re: Strange HMC issue

2015-11-21 Thread Bigendian Smalls
It occurs to me Tony, there could be a multitude things here. But one involves routes and routing tables. Presuming the two networks on your multi-homed HMC don't overlap (different subnets) I'd wonder how your routes in that box are set up (default and otherwise). #3 concerns me a little

Re: SMF/RMF Reporting question

2015-11-21 Thread Scott Chapman
As others have said, there are multiple ways to go look at what was using the CPU during a particular interval, depending on what tools you have access to and what the system configuration is. To recap: SMF 30 interval (subtype 2 & 3) records will show CPU utilization by interval by address

Re: Strange HMC issue

2015-11-21 Thread Jack J. Woehr
Bigendian Smalls wrote: It occurs to me Tony, there could be a multitude things here. Wouldn't the easiest thing be to exclude the HMC's static address from the range of dynamic addresses on the DHCP server, restart dhcpd and see what happens? Sooner or later someone will whine when some box

Re: Strange HMC issue

2015-11-21 Thread Tony Thigpen
Thanks. When pinging either the hard-coded address or the DHCP assigned address, the ping fails anytime we unplug the ethernet cable to that nic. We think that the HMC has opened up a tunnel in linux which is acting as a proxy for . At first we thought maybe the the laptops in the z10, but

Re: Strange HMC issue

2015-11-21 Thread Bigendian Smalls
That's interesting. I'd still think a PCAP that ran during boot of the HMC and maybe watched for a bit could be enlightening. See if / who the IPs are speaking to, any dns lookups etc. Curious what you figure out - but it is certainly suspect. > On Nov 21, 2015, at 11:18, Tony Thigpen

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-21 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 09:04 -0700 on 11/21/2015, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card st: On 11/21/2015 08:49 AM, Bob Shannon wrote: Maybe someone should raise a requirement that the SHARE Hotels credit card system should be secure. Seriously Ed? Do you really

Re: Strange HMC issue

2015-11-21 Thread Jack J. Woehr
Tony Thigpen wrote: From another box on the same net, I can ping both addresses. (The .161 takes 10x longer.) From that same PC, if I look at the arp table, both addresses have the same NIC address. Change the NIC address on the HMC and see what happens? I tend to favor deductive reasoning

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 11/21/2015 08:11 AM, Charles Mills wrote: Amazing the folks on IBM-MAIN. What can be done with a 1937 Bugatti that cannot be more easily done with a 2015 Honda? Repair it yourself? (Subject to parts availability.) (The traffic volume in this thread is astonishing.) -- gil

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-21 Thread Bob Shannon
> Maybe someone should raise a requirement that the SHARE Hotels credit card > system should be secure. Seriously Ed? Do you really think a major hotel chain is going to tell potential customers their credit card system is insecure? Bob Shannon Rocket Software,

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 11/21/2015 08:49 AM, Bob Shannon wrote: Maybe someone should raise a requirement that the SHARE Hotels credit card system should be secure. Seriously Ed? Do you really think a major hotel chain is going to tell potential customers their credit card system is insecure? Credit card

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-21 Thread Charles Mills
Hunt down Phil Smith's SHARE presentation if you want to understand the reality of financial institutions and credit card fraud. The direct financial impact of fraud is but a footnote. It is trivial compared to, say, personal bankruptcy losses. The real threat (to financial institutions) from

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-21 Thread Ed Gould
Sure and if they don't guarantee it go to another hotel. Ed On Nov 21, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Bob Shannon wrote: Maybe someone should raise a requirement that the SHARE Hotels credit card system should be secure. Seriously Ed? Do you really think a major hotel chain is going to tell potential

Re: Strange HMC issue

2015-11-21 Thread Tony Thigpen
The static address is outside the dynamic DHCP range. Hardcoded is xxx.xxx.xxx.41, DHCP assigned is xxx.xxx.xxx.161. (DHCP is .160-.199) From another box on the same net, I can ping both addresses. (The .161 takes 10x longer.) From that same PC, if I look at the arp table, both addresses have

Re: Should utilities FREE DDNAMEs?

2015-11-21 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <00b801d123c5$65c4c9a0$314e5ce0$@q.com>, on 11/20/2015 at 10:58 AM, retired mainframer said: >Given IEBGENER's age, this would be surprising. No, but it would be surpising if IEBGENER was doing a FREE regardless of age. The smart money says that the FREE is due

Re: Privately owned mainframes (Was Re: I just bought an IBM z890)

2015-11-21 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 11/20/2015 at 04:34 PM, Mike Schwab said: >MVS would not run on a 360, requires 370 with Virtual Storage. On a 360/67 with the right version of CP-67 you can run S/370 software. --

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-21 Thread Aled Hughes
Just chip, Martin. I got a new chip card last week and used it at Tesco in the UK. Sure, it had to read the chip and could not be swiped, but no PIN, just sign as usual and compare signatures - seems the Brits are much more stringent in checking signatures on cards than in the US. ALH

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-21 Thread zMan
>I know of a 1937 Bugatti that could be sold for 4.4 million USD; I know of no such Honda. Nor can you buy an Intel-based machine for $237! (OK, yeah, you might could, but...) On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Bob Rutledge wrote: > On 11/21/2015 10:11 AM, Charles Mills

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-21 Thread CM Poncelet
I have 5 IBM 8086/8 to 80286 (something like that) machines with original keyboards and screens for sale at $50,000 - if interested . zMan wrote: I know of a 1937 Bugatti that could be sold for 4.4 million USD; I know of no such Honda. Nor can you buy an Intel-based machine for $237!

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-21 Thread Martin Packer
Ah Chip & PIN at last. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog:

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-21 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com (Martin Packer) writes: > Ah Chip & PIN at last. there was a large pilot deployment in the US around the turn of the century ... however it was in the "YES CARD" period ... the issue was it was possible to use the same skimming exploits to collect information for

Re: Were you at SHARE in Seattle? Watch your credit card statements!

2015-11-21 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
slight mainframe related trivia. chip had a booth at the '99 world-wide retail banking conference ... along with press release ... in this old post http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/ansiepay.htm#x959bai X9.59/AADS announcement at BAI leading up to the conference ... we spent a lot of time with one of

Re: Strange HMC issue

2015-11-21 Thread Tony Thigpen
We have changed the DHCP range and rebooted the HMC. It then had the same results as before, but the non-static ip address changed (to be in the new range). This changed the arp information at the other PC. I just wish they had a linux console I could use to display the networking and running

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-21 Thread Bob Rutledge
On 11/21/2015 10:11 AM, Charles Mills wrote: Amazing the folks on IBM-MAIN. What can be done with a 1937 Bugatti that cannot be more easily done with a 2015 Honda? I know of a 1937 Bugatti that could be sold for 4.4 million USD; I know of no such Honda. Bob

Re: Strange HMC issue

2015-11-21 Thread Jack J. Woehr
Tony Thigpen wrote: I just wish they had a linux console I could use to display the networking and running task list. I've never actually seen an HMC! I'm looking at the docs now. http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/HW11P/com.ibm.hwmca.kc_hmc.doc/hmcheader.html?lang=en You can't

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-21 Thread STEVEN DAHARI
What is to be done with the z890 that can not be more easily done with an Intel based machine? > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 21:31:55 -0500 > From: t...@harminc.net > Subject: Re: I just bought an IBM z890 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > On 10 November 2015 at 20:36, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) >

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-21 Thread David L. Craig
On 15Nov21:0528-0500, STEVEN DAHARI wrote: > What is to be done with the z890 that can not be > more easily done with an Intel based machine? Studying how the zSeries architecture works and how to work with it is the obvious task where the Intel machine is inadequate. No simulation is perfect.