Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-16 Thread retired mainframer
While an individual's experience may be typical, it is seldom exhaustive. We had a paper tape punch on our system well past 1977. I first used it in 1973 on a 370/155 but I know it was transferred from an older system and survived several CPU upgrades. The corresponding paper tape readers

Timeless TV show NASA mainframe (Was: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-16 Thread Tony Thigpen
I just watched the Timeless episode mentioned by Frank. Yes, the plot was a little thin when it came to the adding and removing the virus from the mainframe. But, it's not that unexpected of a time travel series. But, I had to laugh when they installed the tape reel with the write protect

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-16 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
edgould1...@comcast.net (Edward Gould) writes: > That is not how I remember it at all. The Carriage tape on a > 1403/3211(?) was just for that machine. i.e. skip to channel x As I > have said before I do not ever remember seeing any IBM device or > computer that had a paper tape reader/writer.

IEAVPSE2 in type 2 SVC

2017-01-16 Thread Joseph Reichman
Hi I was looking in the notes on user SVC's For type 2 says can not suspend their caller That means suspend macro Would anyone know about ieavpse2 Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-16 Thread Edward Gould
> On Jan 16, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Paul Gilmartin > <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 07:00:27 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: > >> On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 00:15:38 +, Vince Coen wrote: >> >>> If no where else it was on the printers for channel control. >>

Re: The best practice of IODF in big system

2017-01-16 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
We have three CECs residing in two data centers. Counting both production and DR LPARs, we have upwards of two dozen altogether. All disk and tape are cross connected locally or via DWDM, so that every LPAR is connectable to every device. The whole enterprise is mapped by a single IODF where

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-16 Thread Charles Mills
> It was Bad Practice not to have at least one hole punched in every channel. Right! Had forgotten that! If a program skipped to channel 'n' and there was no 'n' hole punch the 14xx would perform a high-speed eject of an entire box of printer paper. Fun to watch, but earned the perpetrator the

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 09:27:31 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >It was exactly as shown in the Wikipedia photo. It was a very durable, tough, >high-fiber paper, not at all the same as TTY punch tape -- other than the >superficial similarity. After all, it made a trip around the sensors every >page

Re: SuperC and Program Objects

2017-01-16 Thread Neil Duffee
Caveat: the daily list digestion leads to delayed list responses... (besides, I'm only catching up on my reading now.) gil (& other interested folx): SuperC can compare program objects but not as 'objects'. [1] Rather, it treats them as binary comparisons (Byte or Word) such as you would a

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-16 Thread Charles Mills
It was exactly as shown in the Wikipedia photo. It was a very durable, tough, high-fiber paper, not at all the same as TTY punch tape -- other than the superficial similarity. After all, it made a trip around the sensors every page that the 14xx printed, boxes and boxes of greenbar every day.

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 07:00:27 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: >On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 00:15:38 +, Vince Coen wrote: > >>If no where else it was on the printers for channel control. > >Yep. That's what I was thinking of. I didn't say that it was used for I/O.

Re: Case Question

2017-01-16 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Scott Most if not all setropts are i the rcvt. Remeber that it is not supported on all versions. ITschak בתאריך 15 בינו 2017 22:16,‏ "scott Ford" כתב: Charles: My friend, perfect. My issue is we are passing Security Sub System commands ( RACF, etc. ) thru r_radmin

Re: System Symbols (SYSSYM)

2017-01-16 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I can't see any generic reason not to enable system symbols, but like many changes that IBM has introduced over the years, it could have a deleterious effect in particular cases. I would not make this change enterprise-wide without publicizing it and preferably testing extensively. The

Re: Case Question

2017-01-16 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 16 Jan 2017 03:45:08 +, scott Ford wrote: >To check authorization we use a RACROUTE call.. > >To pass commands r_radmin... > > >Both are in the same code.. Thanks, Scott. Just be aware that for the RACROUTE calls you are responsible for properly upper-casing the

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-16 Thread Tom Marchant
On Sat, 14 Jan 2017 00:15:38 +, Vince Coen wrote: >If no where else it was on the printers for channel control. Yep. That's what I was thinking of. I didn't say that it was used for I/O. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carriage_control_tape >> From: "Tom Marchant"

Re: Paper tape (was Re: Hidden Figures)

2017-01-16 Thread Sean Gleann
Back to the early 70s and the start of my career... as a lowly trainee operator on an ICL 1904 at the local University... The programmers would supply their compiled programs in the form of spools of paper tape, just because the spools were physically compact. After reading in the same program a