Re: Heretic alert: I really detest TSO REXX (the language)

2018-05-13 Thread David Crayford
On 14/05/2018 3:16 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: OOREXX solves many of the problems in classic REXX. And it retains many of them. Like being typeless and lacking lexical scoping. I never found writing REXX function packages to be difficult. Maybe not difficult for some but it's

Re: Netview Submit JCL

2018-05-13 Thread venkat kulkarni
Hello, This command didn't worked for me and getting same issue. On Sun, May 13, 2018, 11:21 PM Lucas Rosalen wrote: > Hi Venkat, > > What about using the syntax below? > > "MVS SEND 'your_message' USER(user) NOW" > > > >

Re: Heretic alert: I really detest TSO REXX (the language)

2018-05-13 Thread Phil Smith III
Heretic indeed! I've been a Rexx user for 35+ years, so I'm at least used to it. Have written entire products in it, published a book about it, so (surprise) I disagree. I believe that Rexx's biggest weakness was that it came from IBM back when IBM was considered Bad by the non-IBM community.

Re: zPDT hosting at Amazon?

2018-05-13 Thread ITschak Mugzach
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Re: zPDT hosting at Amazon?

2018-05-13 Thread Mike Schwab
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Re: Problem with $BUFFER control block

2018-05-13 Thread Dale R. Smith
On Mon, 14 May 2018 00:12:54 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >I was hopeful that the IEZIOB would include the missing fields. Unfortunately >it does not. Before opening an SR with IBM, I thought I'd give the List one >more shot. The $BUFFER macro changed in z/OS 2.2;

Re: zPDT hosting at Amazon?

2018-05-13 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Mike, we have the license, just want to move to cloud. Btw, who is noshix? Itschak בתאריך יום ב׳, 14 במאי 2018, 4:47, מאת Mike Schwab ‏: > Moshix has a Turnkey 4 Hercules Linux server on Amazon cloud. Ask him > for an account for personal testing. > > On Sun, May 13,

Re: zPDT hosting at Amazon?

2018-05-13 Thread Mike Schwab
Moshix has a Turnkey 4 Hercules Linux server on Amazon cloud. Ask him for an account for personal testing. On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 1:48 PM, ITschak Mugzach wrote: > Need your zPDT users advice. We want to move from local server to Amazon > hosting. if I recall correctly, at

Re: Problem with $BUFFER control block

2018-05-13 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I was hopeful that the IEZIOB would include the missing fields. Unfortunately it does not. Before opening an SR with IBM, I thought I'd give the List one more shot. The $BUFFER macro changed in z/OS 2.2; we're jumping from 2.1 to 2.3 using code carried unmodified for decades (!). The following

Re: Heretic alert: I really detest TSO REXX (the language)

2018-05-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 13 May 2018 19:16:36 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >OOREXX solves many of the problems in classic REXX. > >I never found writing REXX function packages to be difficult. > THere's a lack of closure. Why can't a command (ADDRESS) environment be implemented in Rexx? On

Re: CONTROVERSY! z/OS UNIX: is it an enhancement or a tool of the Devil?

2018-05-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
I'm comfortablewith using Unix files. I'm not comfortable with packaging for MVS components that seems done by people without a clue, but it's not fair to blame that on the use of Unix. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM

Re: CONTROVERSY! z/OS UNIX: is it an enhancement or a tool of the Devil?

2018-05-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
1. m$ started with QDOS, not CP/M 2. CP/M was influence by RT-11 -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Steve Thompson Sent: Friday, May

Re: Netview Submit JCL

2018-05-13 Thread Lucas Rosalen
Hi Venkat, What about using the syntax below? "MVS SEND 'your_message' USER(user) NOW" --- *Lucas Rosalen* rosalen.lu...@gmail.com / lucas.rosal...@ibm.com

Re: Heretic alert: I really detest TSO REXX (the language)

2018-05-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
All symbols are case insensitive. Talis are case sensivtive: bar='baz' say f.bar say foo.BAR say FOO.bar say FOO.BAR will give 4 identical outputs, but change that first line to bar='BAZ' and you're talking about a different variable. You can use the value BIF to get

Re: Heretic alert: I really detest TSO REXX (the language)

2018-05-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
I feel compelled to use Perl because of its expressive power and the massive library available at CPAN, but I consider it ugly. I'd really prefer a language with regex syntax for people who aren't limited to slow teletypes, more in the style of ICON, SNOBOL or Wylbur. As for REXX, it is a very

Re: Heretic alert: I really detest TSO REXX (the language)

2018-05-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
We all have our favorite candidates for worst language ever. I lean to C, but there are other worthy contestants. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of David

Re: Heretic alert: I really detest TSO REXX (the language)

2018-05-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
I'm at a loss as to why anybody would pay good money for cheese, given that the Moon is made of the stuff. It's hard to understand the reason for something when it isn't true in the first place. The fact that you prefer other languages doesn't make them better. Is REXX perfect? No way. But

Re: Heretic alert: I really detest TSO REXX (the language)

2018-05-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
REXX already supports issuing authorized commands for supported environments, e.g., TSO. It's not particularly difficult to add a new environment to REXX, but executing APF authorized commands safely in that environment is not for the faint of heart. OS/2 has something similar to shebang

Re: Heretic alert: I really detest TSO REXX (the language)

2018-05-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
OOREXX solves many of the problems in classic REXX. I never found writing REXX function packages to be difficult. I don't care for Perl syntax, but between its expressive power and the massive CPAN I find myself using it regardless. That said, I find that REXX has a much cleaner syntax for

Re: [TSO-REXX] Sdsf rexx

2018-05-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
It's not from IBM, but IEBUPDTX blows IEBUPDTE and IEBUPDAT away. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Edward Gould Sent: Saturday,

Re: Netview Submit JCL

2018-05-13 Thread Steve Horein
And the man ate fish for a day On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 12:06 PM, venkat kulkarni < venkatkulkarn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Lucas, > > Your solution worked for me > > "SUBMIT 'USR1.REXX.CNTL(REXXJCL)'" . > > Now, I am trying to issue tso send command using this rexx as below using > netview

zPDT hosting at Amazon?

2018-05-13 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Need your zPDT users advice. We want to move from local server to Amazon hosting. if I recall correctly, at list Scott Ford once said they do. I know that the licensing server will still stay here. no problems with that. ​any pros & cons? ITschak ​ -- ITschak Mugzach *|** IronSphere Platform*

Re: [TSO-REXX] Sdsf rexx

2018-05-13 Thread Edward Gould
> On May 12, 2018, at 7:31 PM, Paul Gilmartin > <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > >> SNIP--- > Ironically, it already exists in z/OS: /bin/patch, but people are loath to > use it -- > perhaps they

Re: Netview Submit JCL

2018-05-13 Thread venkat kulkarni
"SEND ''FD FILE HAS BEEN RECEIVED' USER(USR54) NOW'" in this, " started with SEND and then two single quote start with FD and then one closed after received and then one single and one double quote ended after NOW. Can you please help to correct this . On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 9:17 PM, Chris

Re: Netview Submit JCL

2018-05-13 Thread Chris Hoelscher
Well I see 3 double quotes and 2 single quotes . Chris Hoelscher Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services Technology Solution Services Humana Inc. 123 East Main Street Louisville, KY 40202 Humana.com (502) 476-2538 or 407-7266 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Netview Submit JCL

2018-05-13 Thread venkat kulkarni
Hello Mike, I dont have uneven number ob " and ' . If you notice "SEND ''FD FILE HAS BEEN RECEIVED' USER(USR54) NOW'" I also tried SEND 'FD FILE HAS BEEN RECEIVED' USER(USR54) NOW but all the time i get error On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 8:57 PM, Mike Beer wrote: > Hi, > You

AW: Netview Submit JCL

2018-05-13 Thread Mike Beer
Hi, You have an uneven number of " and ' in your command. " or ' have to be in pairs. They can be nested, if necessary. Best regards Mike -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Im Auftrag von venkat kulkarni Gesendet: 13 May, 2018 19:07

Re: Netview Submit JCL

2018-05-13 Thread venkat kulkarni
Hello Lucas, Your solution worked for me "SUBMIT 'USR1.REXX.CNTL(REXXJCL)'" . Now, I am trying to issue tso send command using this rexx as below using netview but i am getting below errror /* REXX */ ADDRESS TSO SAY 'HELLO WORLD!' "SEND ''FD FILE HAS BEEN RECEIVED' USER(USR54)