Comparison Routine - thanks

2018-10-26 Thread Peter Morrison
Hello listers, I want to thank everyone who replied, either privately or via the list. It turns out that, yes, macro ASAXWC is what I needed (and forgot about). I have written code to do this before (twice!) but both times I got 'let go'. I wasn't looking forward to designing and

Re: SMP/E

2018-10-26 Thread scott Ford
Yes I just starting using the CA service. It’s weird I never had to learn SMP/E per se. I guess you can teach old dawgs new tricks. Scott On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 9:16 AM John Eells wrote: > Longabaugh, Robert E wrote: > > CA has offered Internet Service Retrieval (RECEIVE ORDER) since January

Re: SORT not behaving consistently

2018-10-26 Thread Christopher Y. Blaicher
Sorts today are designed to minimize elapsed time, at least Syncsort's MFX sort, is by default. As with EQUALS there are ways to tell the sorts what to prioritize on, TIME, EXCPS, MEMORY. In making optimization decisions, we tend to go by the rule of, you can buy more CPU or memory or DASD,

Re: z/OS BDAM question

2018-10-26 Thread Steve Smith
BDAM implies DSORG DA, but can use any RECFM. However, DSORG DA files are usually physically equivalent to DSORG PS, and often are so designated. However, most DA files I've seen are indeed RECFM=F. sas On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 11:40 AM Tom Sims wrote: > Datacom may use some method of "direct

Application change for ISAM effects wasRe: SORT not behaving consistently

2018-10-26 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 26 Oct 2018 09:45:46 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main jesse1.robin...@sce.com (Jesse 1 Robinson) wrote: >My first job in IT had me working on a fairly new application that was >designed around an ISAM master file. Shortly before going live, it was >discovered that the data center

Re: SORT not behaving consistently

2018-10-26 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
My first job in IT had me working on a fairly new application that was designed around an ISAM master file. Shortly before going live, it was discovered that the data center billed application business units for I/O but not for memory usage. So a quick change was instituted to read the entire

Re: SORT not behaving consistently

2018-10-26 Thread Cameron Conacher
About a hundred years ago I ran into a similar sort issue. Parallel runs in our pre-production environment did not have sequence matched sort outputs. I chased several threads. EQUALS made things match but there is a cost. Apparently it was related to sort work DASD. Knowing I could make it

Re: z/OS BDAM question

2018-10-26 Thread Tom Sims
Datacom may use some method of "direct access," but the datasets themselves are RECFM=F. Disclaimer, not a Datacom expert, more of a Datacom victim, by way of other CA program products. Tom Sims On 10/26/2018 8:11 AM, Rob Schramm wrote: I think I have seen it work for DSNTYPE=LARGE instead

Re: SORT not behaving consistently

2018-10-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
Be careful what you measure; people will optimize in ways that you didn't anticipate and don't want. What affects perfolrmance is the working set, and a large region is not synonymous with a large working set. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: z/OS BDAM question

2018-10-26 Thread Chris Hoelscher
Well I'll BDAM Chris Hoelscher Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services Technology Solution Services Humana Inc. 123 East Main Street Louisville, KY 40202 Humana.com (502) 476-2538 or 407-7266 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom

Re: z/OS BDAM question

2018-10-26 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 18:22:04 +, Frank M. Ramaekers wrote: >want to know if BDAM can be larger than 65535 tracks. Is this limitation per >extent or entire file size. It seems to depend on how you want to access it.

Re: Comparison Routine - take 2

2018-10-26 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
CBT321 (member COBANALZ) has sample code that uses SYS1.MODGEN(ASAXWC). The macro is not GUPI but is used in several places in JES2, which can be seen in SYS1.HASPSRC members for further examples. HTH Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: z/OS BDAM question

2018-10-26 Thread Rob Schramm
I think I have seen it work for DSNTYPE=LARGE instead of extended format. Aren't CA Datacom files bdam? I say that because.. last time i interacted with Datacom it was only able to use DSNTYPE=LARGE. Rob Schramm On Thu, Oct 25, 2018, 11:18 PM Farley, Peter x23353 < peter.far...@broadridge.com>

Re: Comparison Routine - take 2

2018-10-26 Thread Charles Mills
That should fulfill the OP's request. It does not look like what I recall, but it might be the same thing. I think I saw an example of calling the routine directly, not using an executable macro. Was perhaps using https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ia

Re: Comparison Routine - take 2

2018-10-26 Thread Mike LaMartina
SYS1.MODGEN(ASAXWC)? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 6:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Comparison Routine - take 2 I am racking my brain. I think perhaps I

Re: Comparison Routine - take 2

2018-10-26 Thread Charles Mills
I am racking my brain. I think perhaps I saw the reference in some SSI program, either an IBM sample or something from the CBT. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Friday, October 26, 2018 9:07

Re: Comparison Routine - take 2

2018-10-26 Thread Charles Mills
There is a routine as you describe and I am trying to remember where I saw a reference to it, a couple of months ago. I considered using it but ended up rolling my own. You can specify the wildcard characters so you could use % instead of ? a la SQL. I will keep trying to remember. Charles

Re: SORT not behaving consistently

2018-10-26 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 17:51:47 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >"Machine independent". The data type was not "halfword", but "int", defined >as [-32768,32767] and stated that the effect of assigning a larger value was >undefined. Debugger should have enforced. It should have enforced that the

Comparison Routine - take 2

2018-10-26 Thread Peter Morrison
Hello listers. The answers to my original question were interesting, but not close to what I am looking for. (By the way, in the original question I scanned for typos before I hit 'send', but of course (good one, Murphy) missed one. SQU should have been SQL, of course). The answers