On 2019-01-16 18:43, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
FAMS information.
o I don't know the API.
And you won't, unless you make a significant contribution to IBM's coffers.
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Jerry Callen wrote:
>I want the real thing.
In the RFE it could be helpful to elaborate on the "limitations" you
mentioned. Also, if it would be helpful to include and to support the
sample code that IBM provides (in that article I referenced, and with some
completion work) in z/OS itself, as an
On 17/01/2019 9:51 am, Wayne Bickerdike wrote:
When we went to 2 Meg it flew (like a turkey).
We seemed to a manage a whole savings and loans application with that and
less than 3 GB of dusk.
Is that Kiwi for disk? :)
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Many a machine running DOS and later VSE had 1 Meg memory.
In 1987 we ran an HDS clone with 1 Meg of memory. Two CICS regions. It was
flat out most of the time and compiling in prime time was largely verboten.
I convinced my manager if we could get more memory it would alleviate some
problems.
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 17:20:03 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote:
>Quick and dirty from C to list directory and / or retrieve member
>statistics:
>
>fopen("MY.PDS", "rb,type=record,noseek,recfm=u")
>loop fread() ... 256 byte directory blocks until EOF
>- process each member entry in the block.
>
Thanks. Will try to sneak it in.
Charles
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Subject: Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF
Quick and dirty from C to list directory and / or retrieve member
statistics:
fopen("MY.PDS", "rb,type=record,noseek,recfm=u")
loop fread() ... 256 byte directory blocks until EOF
- process each member entry in the block.
See "DFSMS Using Data Sets" / PDS Directory for the layout
Required is rare. Our last was for OSA related MCL. Before that, it was a
scheduled power outage to upgrade the UPS.
Otherwise, what Ed says. Each instance can be different. For us, it was also
the only way to set the hardware clock.
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Murphy, squirrels, DR, hardware upgrades, terrorists, weather events-pretty
much Risk assessment for your environment and your locale.
In a message dated 1/16/2019 4:18:42 PM Central Standard Time,
johnmattson...@gmail.com writes:
I have a simple two lpar z9running zOS 1.13. I have searched
H. I worked on a 360/75J in 1979-1980. We had 1Mib "high-speed" RAM, and
2Mib of LCS storage.
BobL
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Thanks.
This is really not on my main task list. I was hoping for a solution quick
enough that I could skunkworks it in under the radar.
Charles
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I hate to admit this, but after all these years, I have to admit that I am
hazy about exactly when a POR is required. I have gotten along for years,
but now I am faced to explaining it to management and I realize that I
cannot make clear what is not clear to me. I have a simple two lpar z9
Timothy Sipples writes:
> Does this article help?
> https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-semaphore/index.html
Nope. That's pretty much what I'm doing as a workaround. I want the real thing.
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I suppose it depends on who has access to it. That should be the 1st
constraint. If it is something like CICS.. it may be a bit weirder. You
can startup the gsksrvr trace which will trap any usage for the keys. As
for whether they are in use.. it is somewhat "in the eye of the beholder".
A
Charles,
Try CBT file 357. Member TOUCH in that file is a PL/1 program that may be more
easily translated into C and then enhanced to recognize the newer "extended"
statistics.
HTH
Peter
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 13:08:28 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
>Oh. End of story.
>
>Thanks.
>
There are programmers who, for whatever reason, prefer to drag along
ISPF rather than to drag along LE. For such people:
z/OS IBM ISPF Services Guide
Version 2 Release 3 SC19-3626-30
Dismayingly,
Right. After all, the 370 was the machine series of the seventies.
Frankly, I have yet to read one of these Shark Tank stories that seemed like
more than an amusing fairy tale. I have only read a couple, but none of them
rang ver true.
Charles
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Oh. End of story.
Thanks.
Charles
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Subject: Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 20:51:32 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>I don't recall ever seeing built-in variables TRUUE and FALSE, but I haven't
>read the standard.
>
>http://www.rexxla.org/rexxlang/standards/ has ordering information and links.
>At $125, I'd just go for the draft, but it's probably
I'm working in C++ but I can read assembler just fine if there is an example
somewhere.
I get the idea. For anyone used to the ISPF editor and ISPF "Edit Entry Panel"
and similar this is all familiar, but where is the formal documentation? Where
does it say you have to do Init, then Open, then
yeah - there is that :(
Carmen Vitullo
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Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 2:38:06 PM
Subject: Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF statistics?
and of course you have to run under ISPF and TSO to use
I don't recall ever seeing built-in variables TRUUE and FALSE, but I haven't
read the standard.
http://www.rexxla.org/rexxlang/standards/ has ordering information and links.
At $125, I'd just go for the draft, but it's probably worth it if you're trying
to implement ANSI-compliant Rexx (sic).
"It's the late 1970s, and this data center has a high-performance IBM 360/75
mainframe that sports a massive 1 MB of core memory -- one of only four in the
world,"
I might believe late 1960s, but by the late 1970s the 360/75 was well and truly
obsolete and 1 MiB was nothing to brag about. We
and of course you have to run under ISPF and TSO to use ISPF LM services.
These do work in a batch TSO TMP
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 8:56 AM Charles Mills wrote:
> Aha! That sounds like what I am looking for. Thank you. Let me read up on
> isplink() and perhaps post again.
>
> Charles
>
>
>
You use LMMFIND to retrieve statistics. See z/OS ISPF Services Guide Version 2
Release 3. SC19-3626-30.
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Charles Mills
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Bridges
Sent:
Okay, where the heck are the meanings and formats of dataid, ver1, etc.
documented?
Also, I want to *retrieve* (not set) those values. I see LMMSTATS documented as
"set and store ISPF statistics." Can I use LMMSTATS to retrieve existing
statistics. I don't want to change them. Or is there a
You can always ask here. There is a vast level of broad knowledge from JOAT
type sysprogs.
In this particular case, you probably will have better luck on the RACF LIST.
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Bridges
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019
Folks, I'm new here. (I usually hang out at TSO-REXX and RACF-L.) In fact I
joined IBM-MAIN specifically so I could ask some newbie-type questions about
SMP/E. But just now another more urgent issue has come up: Is this a good
place to ask a few general questions about digital certificates?
Scott, ISPLINK LM Services works very well for what I've needed, the service is
there, no need to reinvent the wheel - plus I'm lazy sometime :)
assembler
START DS 0H
XC WORKTOKE(64),WORKTOKE CLEAN OUT WORK TOKEN
* /* LOGIC: GET OUR VARIABLES FROM ISPF. */
CALL ISPLINK, DISPLAY PANEL 1
Do you mean private is too small?
Not sure. I was responding to Peter Relson.
A question for Wayne: can you find out the size of low private on your
system (there are probably "pretty" ways to do this, such as some VSM
health check, but if you can get the value of GDACSA that will let the
Carmen,
How you did we did but in Rexx for part of our CI/Deploy process internally.
Scott
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 11:50 AM Tom Marchant <
000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 06:54:29 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
>
> >Also, what Kirk says. The above
[Default] On 16 Jan 2019 02:57:29 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (Jousma, David) wrote:
>Wayne, you need to free up region below the line. We run with an 11M PVT below
>the line.Here is our memory map from tasid.
>
>0 | PSA
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 09:41:44 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 07:43:36 -0500, Mark Regan wrote:
>
>>https://www.computerworld.com/article/601/data-center/wheres-the-fire.ht
>>ml
>>
>Broken URL.
It's just a wrap to a second line. Here is the correct URL:
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 06:54:29 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
>Also, what Kirk says. The above involves writing and maintaining a module and
>double OPENs.
When you open a PDS member, you are opening a sequential data set that happens
to be contained in a PDS member.
>You ought, as Kirk says, be
I'm using Outlook that came with Office 365. Does anyone have any Outlook
option settings I could look at changing?
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:42
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: FW:
To avoid having the URL translated by the University's "Proof Point" system, I
am going to try this:
/article/601/data-center/wheres-the-fire.html
Put in your browser first: www.computerworld.com
And then paste the above to the end.
Al Nims
Systems Admin/Programmer III
UF Information
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 07:43:36 -0500, Mark Regan wrote:
>https://www.computerworld.com/article/601/data-center/wheres-the-fire.ht
>ml
>
Broken URL. Fix your mailer. Or throw it away and get one that works.
Or post via the web interface.
-- gil
Good Deal, I've had success with ISPLINK with Cobol and Assembler, and of
course Rexx
Carmen Vitullo
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From: "Charles Mills"
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Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:55:47 AM
Subject: Re: Is there a C or LE service to retrieve ISPF
My story is back in my College days, I worked for a Political Science Professor
who also doubled at the manager for the Business Computing Center. He smoked a
pipe and your description about your boss is very much like mine, so his ash
tray was filled with spent match sticks, not much ash,
Aha! That sounds like what I am looking for. Thank you. Let me read up on
isplink() and perhaps post again.
Charles
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Of Carmen Vitullo
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 5:25 AM
To:
Well, it had not occurred to me that I could do the "assembler hack" in C but
of course I could: read the directory LRECL=256 and deblock it. That would
certainly work, but it is more work than I want to do at this moment.
Also, what Kirk says. The above involves writing and maintaining a
Mark Regan wrote:
I have corrected the URL by joining the 2 lines into 1.
>https://www.computerworld.com/article/601/data-center/wheres-the-fire.html
Ouch, ouch, ouch, what a nasty fired up event. So, you get fired because there
were no fire? ;-)
About smoke - One of my previous bosses
On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 13:57:48 +1100, Wayne Bickerdike wrote:
>Mark Zeldens excellent IPLINFO shows:
>
>The real storage size at IPL time was 2048M.
>The private area size <16M is 8192K.
It seems to be a sloppy calculation. The private area always ends on a 1M
boundary, but every system I've
Agree, and if I'm reading the OP's query correctly he's asking for ISPF stats
not PDS member or directory info, correct?
the LM services part of ISPF, are available in many languages, including C
so for example ;
retcode = isplink("LMMSTATS", dataid, mbrname, ver1, mod1, cdate, mdate,
mtime,
I've done that, but what you would really like to do is:
(Reading)
- Open a PDS member with fopen()
- Get the user directory info without opening the dataset twice
- fread(), fread()...
- fclose()
(Writing)
- Open a PDS member with fopen()
- Get the user directory info without opening the
https://www.computerworld.com/article/601/data-center/wheres-the-fire.ht
ml
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Why don't you just read the directory and write a mapping for the user
data area?
On 16/01/2019 5:52 am, Charles Mills wrote:
I'm looking for a C-callable subroutine that would give me the ISPF
statistics for a PDS(E) member (if available). I'm particularly interested
in the "changed"
Wayne, you need to free up region below the line. We run with an 11M PVT below
the line.Here is our memory map from tasid.
0 | PSA .. 8K | 1FFF
2000 | System .. 16K | 5FFF
6000 | PVT .. 11240K | AF
B0 | CSA ...
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