AW: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues

2021-11-01 Thread Barbara Nitz
Good morning Marna, thanks for reporting that, someone else may have a need for the full html. I don't have much to do as far as migration actions go - SDSF was done a long time ago. I still need to do comparisons for /etc and /var, and set up ieasys to pick the parmlib members for 2.5, and the

Re: Fall back STP Adjustments

2021-11-01 Thread Eric D Rossman
It falls back from 0100am to 1200am in your scenario, never switching days Sent from HCL Verse Gibney, Dave --- [EXTERNAL] Re: Fall back STP Adjustments --- From:"Gibney, Dave" <03b5261cfd78-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>To:ibm-m...@listserv.ua.EDUDate:Mon, Nov 1, 2021 3:02 PMSubje

Re: Fall back STP Adjustments

2021-11-01 Thread Eric D Rossman
It ticks from 015959 to 01. You get 01-015959 twice, but 02 just once Sent from HCL Verse Retired Mainframer --- [EXTERNAL] Re: Fall back STP Adjustments --- From:"Retired Mainframer" <03a485c129c3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>To:ibm-m...@listserv.ua.EDUDate:Mon, Nov

Re: Data Exfiltration

2021-11-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
IBM 3270 PC. The basic 3270 extended data stream is pretty straightforward, although it gets more complicated for things kije file transfer and graphics. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Phil Smith III Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 10:

Re: Data Exfiltration

2021-11-01 Thread Phil Smith III
Long ago, when the world was young, there was an IBM manual for an early 3270 emulator that actually documented the IND$FILE protocol. I have a copy somewhere. But yeah, they've made it hard to grok. WSF is well documented in the 3270 protocol books-but those are probably hard to find these d

Re: Assembler analysis [was: RE: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues]

2021-11-01 Thread Gerhard Adam
> ITYM TANSTAAFL, as originally coined by Larry Niven(?) Robert Heinlein, "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 2:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Assembler analysis

Re: Assembler analysis [was: RE: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues]

2021-11-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
No, but he did coin "Think of it as evolution in action." From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Allan Staller <0387911dea17-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 4:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Asse

Re: Load Module Search Libs

2021-11-01 Thread Peter Relson
Joe, but I found this value to be erroneous You made this statement some time ago and what was found to be erroneous was your statement. Why do you find it so difficult to provide the obvious data? -- You did not show what values you used when initializing the DCB. -- You show register de

Re: Assembler analysis [was: RE: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues]

2021-11-01 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Mea culpa, I did leave out the extra "A". TANSTAAFL it is. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 4:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Assembler analysis [was: RE: Serverpac installs January 20

Re: Assembler analysis [was: RE: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues]

2021-11-01 Thread Mike Schwab
There Aint No Such Thing As A Free Lunch - The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress. On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 8:30 PM Allan Staller <0387911dea17-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Classification: Confidential > > ITYM TANSTAAFL, as originally coined by Larry Niven(?) > > -Original Message- >

Re: Assembler analysis [was: RE: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues]

2021-11-01 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: Confidential ITYM TANSTAAFL, as originally coined by Larry Niven(?) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Monday, November 1, 2021 11:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Assembler analysis [was: RE: Ser

Re: Fall back STP Adjustments

2021-11-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 12:19:31 -0700, Retired Mainframer wrote: >I think the answer is both. AT 0700 UTC it will be 0200 CDT. After an >infinitely small interval, it will still be 0700 UTC but will be 0100 CST. At >the time of transition, either CST is correct (or maybe neither are). > I'm more co

Re: Fall back STP Adjustments

2021-11-01 Thread Carmen Vitullo
my brain hurts, but I see what you are getting at, CDT 7AM UTC is 2AM, then at CST 7AM UTC is 1AM I've had many discussion with service engineers about time, and what's relative, it made my head spin :) - Carmen On 11/1/2021 2:19 PM, Retired Mainframer wrote: I think the answer is both. AT

Re: Fall back STP Adjustments

2021-11-01 Thread Gibney, Dave
Not wanting to quibble. A one hour fall back from 1am is still, however briefly a fallback to yesterday, and is just not a good idea. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Retired Mainframer > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2021 12:16 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LI

Re: Assembler analysis [was: RE: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues]

2021-11-01 Thread Pierre Fichaud
All the conversions I did were for companies in France. The first one was to convert SAS/C to IBM/C as the SAS stopped supporting their C compiler. There were a number of SAS/C functions that I had to create going to IBM/C. Some I wrote in C. The others I wrote in assembler. It really helped that

Re: Fall back STP Adjustments

2021-11-01 Thread Retired Mainframer
I think the answer is both. AT 0700 UTC it will be 0200 CDT. After an infinitely small interval, it will still be 0700 UTC but will be 0100 CST. At the time of transition, either CST is correct (or maybe neither are). -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf O

Re: Fall back STP Adjustments

2021-11-01 Thread Carmen Vitullo
putting it that way makes sense :) and that's how I read the doc, but some folks questions let me to do a sanity check. always best to check, thanks Dave, thanks all Carmen On 11/1/2021 2:01 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote: A fallback from 2am to 1am local time would be correct, A fall back to yester

Re: Fall back STP Adjustments

2021-11-01 Thread Gibney, Dave
A fallback from 2am to 1am local time would be correct, A fall back to yesterday, (1am to 12pm) would not be a good idea on many levels > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2021 11:32 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTS

Re: Fall back STP Adjustments

2021-11-01 Thread Carmen Vitullo
my time variables for USS in etc/profile and cee parms have been a non issue new to me and my issue is when the STP timer actually falls back, 1am or 2am based on the doc I have with automatic time adjustment being done @7AM UTC time Carmen On 11/1/2021 1:24 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mo

Re: Load Module Search Libs

2021-11-01 Thread Joseph Reichman
For some reason hadn’t totally cleared the Parmater list to SVC 122 the flag bit indicated a dcb was present when I didn’t have one Thanks sorry > On Nov 1, 2021, at 12:15 PM, Peter Relson wrote: > > I don't know in what way LSEARCH=YES would help. > > It is certainly possible to avoid s

Re: Fall back STP Adjustments

2021-11-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 12:59:43 -0500, Carmen Vitullo wrote: >I was mistaken yes 7am UTC > And do you have the correct setting in the various (too many) OMVS configuration files? For exampe: 526 $ tail -1 /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago CST6CDT,M3.2.0,M11.1.0 (CST6CDT) should suffice. I

Re: Fall back STP Adjustments

2021-11-01 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I was mistaken yes 7am UTC thanks On 11/1/2021 12:57 PM, Ramsey Hallman wrote: Central Daylight Time is 5 hours BEHIND UTC. As I write this, it's about 13:00 CDT. That's 18:00 UTC. Are you sure about the 7 *PM* time 7AM UTC would be 2AM CDT. Ramsey On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 12:47 PM Car

Re: Fall back STP Adjustments

2021-11-01 Thread Ramsey Hallman
Central Daylight Time is 5 hours BEHIND UTC. As I write this, it's about 13:00 CDT. That's 18:00 UTC. Are you sure about the 7 *PM* time 7AM UTC would be 2AM CDT. Ramsey On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 12:47 PM Carmen Vitullo wrote: > I hate to beat a dead horse as it relates to time change, but

Re: Assembler analysis [was: RE: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues]

2021-11-01 Thread Seymour J Metz
I wrote a progran to translate assembler between two very different architectures, and that has the same issues. The translation can not fill in missing documentation or generate meaningful names, it only retain the names and comments in the original code. Even with good flow analysis the transl

Fall back STP Adjustments

2021-11-01 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I hate to beat a dead horse as it relates to time change, but this year we have a new z15 and the new HMC version. we're setup currently for automatic adjustment, my question is that's not in the doc I have; the time will change @7PM UTC time according to the doc, so that means 2AM Central time?

Re: Assembler analysis [was: RE: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues]

2021-11-01 Thread kekronbekron
Perhaps IBM can 'make their own' GPT-3 and let it loose on all zOS assembler source. Then, if it does something helpful, we'll know (via IBM). - KB ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, November 1st, 2021 at 10:03 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 <031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>

Re: Assembler analysis [was: RE: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues]

2021-11-01 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I am aware of only one product (commercial) that claims to be of any help in language conversion for assembler code, but there may be more of which I am unaware. In the one case I am aware of, the results were truly horrible COBOL code that didn't even come close to performing the same function

Re: Load Module Search Libs

2021-11-01 Thread Peter Relson
I don't know in what way LSEARCH=YES would help. It is certainly possible to avoid searching tasklib/steplib/joblib. But the 806-0C abend indicates that you apparently have created an erroneous situation that you should figure out before moving forward. If you want just to search LPA + LNKLST

Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues

2021-11-01 Thread Warren Brown
Hey experts;  I am back with mainframes.  I have a new position to analyze to  assembly language program. Is their any programs to analyze ASM programs for re-write them to a more modern language. Perhaps their are tools to help me,  Thanks, Warren   reaOn Monday, November 1, 2021, 11:49:52

Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues

2021-11-01 Thread Michael Babcock
Use VA next to the file name in ISPF 3.4 or 3.17. On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 5:53 AM Barbara Nitz wrote: > >Those files are not stored in EBCDIC. I used ISPF 3.17 to View the files > using the UTF-8 option. Then you can see the XML source. > > Thanks for that pointer. I did use the command "ASCII" (

Re: formatting help

2021-11-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 18:55:41 -0400, Joseph Reichman wrote: >Paul At this point I'll try anything as I am still getting an 806 after [appending] -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send e

Re: Above the bar storage not in SDUMP

2021-11-01 Thread Martin Packer
A useful analogy here might be Db2 - which is selective about which areas it dumps. (Certainly around the "relatively low value" buffer pools.) You might want to ask on CICS-L which areas CICS might exclude from a dump. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer WW z/OS Performance, Capacity and Architectu

Above the bar storage not in SDUMP

2021-11-01 Thread Mark Jacobs
A developer is reporting that he doesn't have all of the storage above the bar in the dump. He looked at the areas that should format properly and RSM indicates that 48GB storage area above the bar should be in the dump but it is not. MAXSPACE is set to 00122880M and message IEA611I said that a

Re: Load Module Search Libs

2021-11-01 Thread Peter Relson
Joe, Your post remains basically unreadable due to the lack of new-line indicators. You appear to have gone out of your way to make things difficult. Is there a reason? BYADDR=YES is generally a poor choice unless you have something already loaded. You don't -- you had to do the loading yourse

Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues

2021-11-01 Thread Barbara Nitz
>Those files are not stored in EBCDIC. I used ISPF 3.17 to View the files using >the UTF-8 option. Then you can see the XML source. Thanks for that pointer. I did use the command "ASCII" (which got command not found), but "ASCII" is an IPCS command. :-( Regards, Barbara --

Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues

2021-11-01 Thread Barbara Nitz
>> What I found really annoying in my serverpac was that I was asked >> for the jobclass for sysout data sets, dutifully specified an >> asterisk (take the one from the jobcard) and then got generated >> statements like this: SYSPRINT DD *. It took me a while to >> understand why I had gotten e