Re: Introducing IBM Virtual Dev and Test for z/OS

2022-06-16 Thread kekronbekron
Hey Tim, Could you give us a one-liner for each of these. VD -- zOS on s390x architecture (IFL) zD -- zOS on x86_64 architecture ADCD -- ?? Wazi -- ?? - KB --- Original Message --- On Thursday, June 16th, 2022 at 2:16 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote: > IBM Wazi as a Service provides

Re: SMPe ACCEPT process

2022-06-16 Thread Mark Jacobs
There's rarely a reason to fret about accept errors like that. I'd always just do an ACCEPT PTFS BYPASS(HOLDSYSTEM) and whatever got accepted was good enough for me at the time. If I ever needed to restore a PTF and it didn't work, then I'd dig deeper into accept processing/errors. Mark Jacobs

Re: RIsks of sharing FICON adapters between LPARs on the same host

2022-06-16 Thread Laurence Chiu
Thanks. I will raise that as a query. While the DS8K's data is encrypted using SKLM this is at rest and not during transmission. If all data is encrypted before I/O are there any performance impacts on say Z14's with lesser capable hardware encryption? On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 4:31 PM Timothy

Re: SMPe ACCEPT process

2022-06-16 Thread Bill Giannelli
thank you all for your help! Now i keep getting multiple GIM37905E errors -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: SMPe ACCEPT process

2022-06-16 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: Confidential I generally do not worry too much about the accepts. I would just go with a generic accept. ACCEPT . (of course specifying the appropriate zones on the SET BDY. The purpose of the accept is to set a DLIB Level. If it becomes necessary to restore a PTF, all

Re: [EXTERNAL] SMPe ACCEPT process

2022-06-16 Thread Pommier, Rex
Now I'm second guessing myself. You can skip the excludes, but you might need the bypass - I'm assuming you mean bypass holdsys. Try it with a CHECK and see what you get. :-) Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Thursday, June

Re: [EXTERNAL] SMPe ACCEPT process

2022-06-16 Thread Pommier, Rex
Typically, yes, because unless you tell it otherwise, the accept will only accept PTFs that have already been applied. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Giannelli Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 5:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

SMPe ACCEPT process

2022-06-16 Thread Bill Giannelli
For my prior maintenance I have run an APPLY excluding several PTFs due to PEs and specified several bypass options. But when running an ACCEPT do I run WITHOUT the excludes and the bypass? thanks Bill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: Introducing IBM Virtual Dev and Test for z/OS

2022-06-16 Thread Patrick Loftus
It's possible the IBM Z requirements are for the "Virtual Dev and Test for z/OS instances" component, and the x86-64 requirements are for the other two components, "Virtual Dev and Test for z/OS web and Software based license server" and "Image storage server". These components are mentioned

Re: Modernize Mainframe Applications for Hybrid Cloud with IBM and AWS

2022-06-16 Thread Jay Maynard
There are AWS employees all around the world, but not that many in India, AFAIK. (I just went to work for them a couple of months ago.) On Thu, Jun 16, 2022, 14:17 Tony Harminc wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 at 12:56, Ronald Wells > <02ebc63ff5ef-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > >

zOSMF

2022-06-16 Thread BM
Do anyone know to change the defaults value provided by IBM for Temporary Catalog Alias (NEWMCAT) and Catalog name (CATALOG.MCAT), didn't find the modify option under Catalogs deployment (zOSMF). Thanks, BM. -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Is deliverycb-bld.dhe.ibm.com the wrong host for HTTPS PTF downloads?

2022-06-16 Thread Wendell Lovewell
I was the name-dropper Kurt. I thought I saw you discussing with someone, somewhere, something about using or not using delivery"cb"-bld.dhe.ibm.com vs delivery"something else"... (Can I make that any more vague? :) ) Anyway, "cb" is working now. At least I could get the files with Download

Re: Introducing IBM Virtual Dev and Test for z/OS

2022-06-16 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 12:36:14 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: > >It would be really nice if IBM would explain what this product *is*. I >appreciate that a certain amount of marketing fluff is always >necessary, but even for IBM this is remarkably heavy on the fluff and >light on the details. > The

Re: Is deliverycb-bld.dhe.ibm.com the wrong host for HTTPS PTF downloads?

2022-06-16 Thread Bob Dott
The server was down or unavailable for a while this morning but was up as of 12:20EDT today. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

Re: Is deliverycb-bld.dhe.ibm.com the wrong host for HTTPS PTF downloads?

2022-06-16 Thread Kurt J. Quackenbush
Did someone mention my name? The IP addresses for the download servers changed this past weekend, June 12(ish). The server host names remain the same. https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/6580101 Kurt Quackenbush IBM | z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management | ku...@us.ibm.com Chuck

Re: Modernize Mainframe Applications for Hybrid Cloud with IBM and AWS

2022-06-16 Thread Ronald Wells
AWS is India -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 1:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Modernize Mainframe Applications for Hybrid Cloud with IBM and AWS ** EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE CAUTION ** On Thu,

Re: Modernize Mainframe Applications for Hybrid Cloud with IBM and AWS

2022-06-16 Thread zMan
And IBM surely has gone even further in that direction. A few years ago, an IBM insider told me it was down to fewer than 25,000 US employees. Fewer now, especially with the Kyndryl spinoff. On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 2:17 PM Tony Harminc wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 at 12:56, Ronald Wells >

Re: Modernize Mainframe Applications for Hybrid Cloud with IBM and AWS

2022-06-16 Thread Tony Harminc
On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 at 12:56, Ronald Wells <02ebc63ff5ef-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > AWS?? May as well kiss your jobs good by, pulled away over seas It's just about ten years ago that there was all the talk here about *IBM* having more employees in India than in the US. I'm not

Re: Is deliverycb-bld.dhe.ibm.com the wrong host for HTTPS PTF downloads?

2022-06-16 Thread Bill Johnson
I think I hit it exactly at the right time that it was fixed because I tried Firefox right after I sent the “Chrome worked” reply and it worked also. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, June 16, 2022, 1:30 PM, Albertus de Wet wrote: I placed an order this morning and trying to get

Re: Is deliverycb-bld.dhe.ibm.com the wrong host for HTTPS PTF downloads?

2022-06-16 Thread Carmen Vitullo
isn't that how it always happens, been there done that. not a problem Carmen On 6/16/2022 10:59 AM, Wendell Lovewell wrote: Wouldn't you know it? Just as soon as I posted the question, I tried the JNLP download it it worked. Sorry to have troubled you. Wendell

Re: Modernize Mainframe Applications for Hybrid Cloud with IBM and AWS

2022-06-16 Thread zMan
Ah. Thanks. On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 1:16 PM Ronald Wells < 02ebc63ff5ef-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Dealings with AWS. Just saying , not pleasent > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Is deliverycb-bld.dhe.ibm.com the wrong host for HTTPS PTF downloads?

2022-06-16 Thread Albertus de Wet
I placed an order this morning and trying to get the HTTPS JCL from their website, created a "server refused connection". I opened a call with shopZ - will see. Using Chrome - so THAT did not make a difference. On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 10:20 AM Bill Johnson <

Re: Modernize Mainframe Applications for Hybrid Cloud with IBM and AWS

2022-06-16 Thread Ronald Wells
Dealings with AWS. Just saying , not pleasent -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of zMan Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 12:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Modernize Mainframe Applications for Hybrid Cloud with IBM and AWS ** EXTERNAL EMAIL -

Re: Modernize Mainframe Applications for Hybrid Cloud with IBM and AWS

2022-06-16 Thread zMan
Not arguing, just unclear: what does that mean? AWS has huge presence in U.S., I know lots of folks there. On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 12:56 PM Ronald Wells < 02ebc63ff5ef-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > AWS?? May as well kiss your jobs good by, pulled away over seas > > -Original

Re: Modernize Mainframe Applications for Hybrid Cloud with IBM and AWS

2022-06-16 Thread Ronald Wells
AWS?? May as well kiss your jobs good by, pulled away over seas -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of zMan Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2022 11:31 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Modernize Mainframe Applications for Hybrid Cloud with IBM and AWS **

Re: Introducing IBM Virtual Dev and Test for z/OS

2022-06-16 Thread Tony Harminc
On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 at 04:46, Timothy Sipples wrote: [...] > Now there's yet another great option: the IBM Virtual Dev and Test for z/OS, > generally available THIS FRIDAY. The announcement letter is available here: > https://www.ibm.com/downloads/cas/US-ENUS222-251-CA/name/US-ENUS222-251-CA.PDF

Re: SFTP JOB Data parameter

2022-06-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 14:47:00 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Read up on syscalls('ON'), address syscall and address sh. > syscalls('ON') can be used in any environment; address sh requires that the Rexx script have been started from shell amd is not enabled by syscalls('ON'). I suspect the

Modernize Mainframe Applications for Hybrid Cloud with IBM and AWS

2022-06-16 Thread zMan
https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/skyla-loomis/2022/05/09/modernize-for-hybrid-cloud-with-ibm-and-aws This is pretty funny if you think about IBM claiming that IBM cloud produces so much revenue--then they go and offer something on AWS! Guess they don't believe in

Re: Is deliverycb-bld.dhe.ibm.com the wrong host for HTTPS PTF downloads?

2022-06-16 Thread Bill Johnson
Switched to Chrome from Firefox and deliverycb-bld.dhe.ibm.com worked. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, June 16, 2022, 12:00 PM, Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: I ordered COBOL 6.4 yesterday and tried downloading it this morning and it

Re: SFTP JOB Data parameter

2022-06-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 14:50:18 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Only from the perspective of the submitter, not from the perspective of the >installation. > Which of my two paragraphs are you addrressinig? In either case, the submitter is the one who cares. Since (I believe) the system symbol

Re: Is deliverycb-bld.dhe.ibm.com the wrong host for HTTPS PTF downloads?

2022-06-16 Thread Bill Johnson
I ordered COBOL 6.4 yesterday and tried downloading it this morning and it appears deliverycb-bld.dhe.ibm.com is indeed down. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, June 16, 2022, 11:52 AM, Wendell Lovewell <01e9c0ee0673-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: I'm trying to download

Re: Is deliverycb-bld.dhe.ibm.com the wrong host for HTTPS PTF downloads?

2022-06-16 Thread Wendell Lovewell
Wouldn't you know it? Just as soon as I posted the question, I tried the JNLP download it it worked. Sorry to have troubled you. Wendell -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Is deliverycb-bld.dhe.ibm.com the wrong host for HTTPS PTF downloads?

2022-06-16 Thread Wendell Lovewell
I'm trying to download service for APAR PH39134 from ShopZ. I tried installing Java 8 so I could run the JNLP ShopZ provided, but it always displays "Server busy, try again later". I've tried using the RNFJOBH job provided by ShopZ, but I'm getting: GIM44336S ** AN UNUSUAL CONDITION

Re: SFTP JOB Data parameter

2022-06-16 Thread Seymour J Metz
Not at all; it's more a case of each poster offering the first solution they thought of, which IMHO is appropriate. It's up to the OP to decide which best suits his needs. TMTOWTDI. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM

Re: SFTP JOB Data parameter

2022-06-16 Thread Kirk Wolf
IMO, the contortions in this thread seem to be in search of the most complicated solution. By just using the z/OS UNIX shell in batch, the OP's requirement can be solved in a straightforward way. FWIW, here's how you would do this with Co:Z SFTP and Co:Z Batch, along with our sample proc and

Re: Introducing IBM Virtual Dev and Test for z/OS

2022-06-16 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
That thought also crossed my mind when reading the data at the "landing page" that Timothy provided, but as usual pricing is the real issue. I would think IBM could price it like they proposed to do with the Learner's Edition of ZD, and it would be less burdensome for them because no dongle

Re: Introducing IBM Virtual Dev and Test for z/OS

2022-06-16 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
If IBM hosted then it would seem a better option than the ZDNT Learners Edition for students/hobbyists who want to code/develop without having to be s systems programmer. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck "Worry more about your character

Re: SFTP JOB Data parameter

2022-06-16 Thread Seymour J Metz
Only from the perspective of the submitter, not from the perspective of the installation. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin

Re: SFTP JOB Data parameter

2022-06-16 Thread Seymour J Metz
Read up on syscalls('ON'), address syscall and address sh. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of saurabh khandelwal [sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com] Sent:

Re: Introducing IBM Virtual Dev and Test for z/OS

2022-06-16 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Lionel, That's what I was wondering myself, but after checking the "landing page" that Timothy provided, it looks like it is meant for on-premises use by existing z hardware customers - It's running on z/Linux on IFL's (min of 2) on your z hardware or on Wazi hardware in the IBM cloud. No

Re: SFTP JOB Data parameter

2022-06-16 Thread Seymour J Metz
The issue is when and where to evaluate. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Farley, Peter x23353 [031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent:

Re: SFTP JOB Data parameter

2022-06-16 Thread Steve Smith
I wish that IBM had (or would) support the SYMBOLS= keyword on JOB statements to allow system symbols in the JCL. The current jobclass spec would still be the default; and SYMBOLS=JCLONLY would still be the default default. sas On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 9:27 AM Paul Gilmartin <

Re: Introducing IBM Virtual Dev and Test for z/OS

2022-06-16 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
Is this an alternative to the ZDNT Learners Edition? What's the cost? Can hobbyists use it? Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck "Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others

Re: SFTP JOB Data parameter

2022-06-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 16 Jun 2022 13:09:53 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >This has been discussed here many times. The issue is that the results vary >depending on ehrn and where you evaluate them. > Doesn't SYMBOLS=({JCLONLY|EXECSYS|CNVTSYS} suffice to resolve that? There remains the phobia concerning the

Re: SFTP JOB Data parameter

2022-06-16 Thread Seymour J Metz
This has been discussed here many times. The issue is that the results vary depending on ehrn and where you evaluate them. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf

Will SFTP work with DSFS?

2022-06-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Will SFTP work with DSFS? Just wondering. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: SFTP JOB Data parameter

2022-06-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 18:31:04 +0300, saurabh khandelwal wrote: > >If I use rexx then how will I be able to use shell command in same job > In this thread, everyone seems to be advocating his favorite utility. I'll add mine: .

Re: SFTP JOB Data parameter

2022-06-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 17:26:32 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >Thanks Sri, I did not know about SYSSYM=ALLOW. But that raises the question >why NOT always allow system symbols in every batch initiator? Allowing them >just seems like a no-brainer to me, but then I'm just an application

Introducing IBM Virtual Dev and Test for z/OS

2022-06-16 Thread Timothy Sipples
IBM Wazi as a Service provides near instant (within just a few minutes), on demand access to z/OS instances for development, unit testing, and training. These instances run in IBM Cloud, and the performance is excellent since they run on real mainframes. Wazi as a Service is in limited preview