Re: To share or not to share DASD

2022-11-28 Thread Brian Westerman
You're incorrect, you don't need a coupling facility to share PDS/e, you can (and I do at several sites) use FICON CTC's just as well, and in fact it's a lot cheaper, (unless you already have a coupling facility installed in which case it would be silly to not use it). IBM does not require a

Re: Storage protection keys

2022-11-28 Thread Rob Schramm
Cmg on the various codes https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=web=j=https://www.cmg.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/the-what-and-why-of-system-z-millicode.pdf=2ahUKEwiVgKrnkNL7AhUeQzABHV6nCAEQFnoECBMQAQ=AOvVaw1z9331tDaCUEnXojJZXGMG Rob Schramm On Fri, Nov 25, 2022, 11:30 Seymour J Metz wrote: > The

Re: To share or not to share DASD

2022-11-28 Thread Rob Schramm
I vote with Brian. Rob On Mon, Nov 28, 2022, 16:34 Tom Marchant < 000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > PDSE sharing is only supported within a Sysplex. XCF signalling is > required to maintain > integrity. When you say that PDSEs can be fully shared, I think you are >

Re: Origin of the name of sample programs DSNTEP2/4?

2022-11-28 Thread Farley, Peter
OK, so you are suggesting "DSN" as the prefix, "T" for Test or Training in the fourth position, something else for the fifth character (or maybe Tx as a 2-character meaning of some kind in 4 and 5), and A/C/P for the language in the sixth position. I can see that as a reasonable explanation.

Re: Origin of the name of sample programs DSNTEP2/4?

2022-11-28 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Hello Peter, IMO, the P in the name DSNTEP2 is because it is written in PL/1. There are some other sample programs like DSNTIAD and DSNTIAUL, which are written in ASSEMBLER, that's why IMO the 6th letter depends on the programming language. DSNTIAUL is heavily used at my customer's site to do

Re: Origin of the name of sample programs DSNTEP2/4?

2022-11-28 Thread Farley, Peter
Cross posted to IBM-MAIN. I asked this question earlier today over on DB2-L (the one run by IDB2UG), but it later occurred to me that someone here might also know the answer to my question. Peter _ From: Farley, Peter Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022

Re: Bytes in a 3390 track

2022-11-28 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 16:56:42 -0800, Leonard D Woren wrote: >You could have two members originally linked to different >areas of the original PDS, decently utilizing 32K blocks.  Now you >IEBCOPY the data set and those two members end up one following one >another in the target, and the

Re: To share or not to share DASD

2022-11-28 Thread Tom Marchant
PDSE sharing is only supported within a Sysplex. XCF signalling is required to maintain integrity. When you say that PDSEs can be fully shared, I think you are referring to Extended Sharing, not Normal Sharing. Following is from

Re: Whether MSGFLD handle IOS050I,SUP(NO) in MPFLST.

2022-11-28 Thread Peter Fatzinger
During normal activity the processing of the IOS050I message will be governed by the MPFLSTxx setting which in your case means it will not be suppressed. If Message Flood Automation detects that the IOS050I is part of a flood then the MSGLFDxx settings will take effect - in your case the

Re: SMP/E oddity?

2022-11-28 Thread Jay Maynard
Yeah, this all makes sense. Basically, the idea of APPLY is to build the LMOD with everything that's been ACCEPTed or previously APPLYed to it. SMP/E has enough information to reconstruct it from scratch if needed, but will save itself the work of rebuilding the LMOD from the MODs if it doesn't

Re: SMP/E oddity?

2022-11-28 Thread Kurt J. Quackenbush
During APPLY processing SMP/E may or may not include the existing load module when replacing MODs. If the load module does not actually exist in the target library, or if the LMOD entry has any CALLLIBS subentries, then the load module is constructed from scratch, including all of the MODs

Re: To share or not to share DASD

2022-11-28 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: Confidential I would share devices at the physical level (all devices can be brought online to any LPAR) I would not share those devices at the logical level (all devices are offline where not normally used). HTH, -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List