000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (Tom Marchant) writes:
> ASCII was seriously considered for the initial System/360
> design. Amdahl, Blaauw and Brooks published an article in the IBM
> Journal in April, 1964, titled "Architecture of the System/360" in
> which many of the design
Charles Mills wrote:
> http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/360/princOps/A22-6821-0_360PrincOps.pdf
>
> Too wonderful for words!168 pages for the whole book...
Indeed! I keep a saved copy on my desktop and sometimes still reference it for
sake of simplicity.
> It's an image scan and
On Saturday, 20 February 2016 16:46:14 UTC, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 06:54:56 -0600, Bill Woodger wrote:
A COBOL program can establish its own collating sequence, which can be
user-defined or "ASCII" or...
This would only affect alphanumeric fields (OK, I'll assume PIC A as
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 21:26:11 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote:
>
>In the -6 edition at
>http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/360/princOps/A22-6821-6_360PrincOpsJan67.pdf
>
>on page 149, in Appendix F, it shows how the 7-bit ASCII is manipulated
>to come up with the 8-bit USASCII-8. I won't try
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 22:15:48 +0100, Peter Hunkeler wrote:
>> That would be "F" for EBCDIC, IIRC '5' for ASCII.
>
>ASCII digits are x'30' to x'39' so the zone part is '3'
True, but IBM uses "USASCII-8". It is an 8-bit code, and they didn't
extend it by simply adding a high-order 0 bit as you
I believe you ...
Charles
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 11:21:17 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
>Are you sure about UNPACK, EDIT and EDMK?
>
>My recollection is that
>
>- UNPACK does not care about content. It just re-arranges the nibbles.
>- EDIT and EDMK do not ever create packed data, do they? And I think they
> honored both D
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 10:46:05 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 06:54:56 -0600, Bill Woodger wrote:
>
>>Indeed, there's a bit in the PSW indicating whether it is running in ASCII
>>or EBCDIC, isn't there? :-)
>>
>Used to be. I doubt that it's still functional. Did COBOL ever
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Is there a defined klingon code page?
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>> On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 06:54:56 -0600, Bill Woodger wrote:
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Going just from memory here -- too lazy or too inconsequential to look it up.
1. Yes, the bit has gone away.
2. It never did much. After all, CLC
other sign configurations for ASCII.
Charles
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 06:54:56 -0600, Bill Woodger wrote:
>Indeed, there's a bit in the PSW indicating whether it is running in ASCII or
>EBCDIC, isn't there? :-)
>
Used to be. I doubt that it's still functional. Did COBOL ever exploit it?
-- gil
Indeed, there's a bit in the PSW indicating whether it is running in ASCII or
EBCDIC, isn't there? :-)
On Saturday, 20 February 2016 02:02:46 UTC, Tom Marchant wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 22:08:44 +, Gibney, David Allen,Jr wrote:
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>> EBCDIC is a pain. It should have been
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