Re: Ada's fate (was: New JVM based language)

2014-08-25 Thread David Stokes
John Gilmore wrote: Refactoring as its two principal advocates have presented it is etc. etc. Refactoring is restructuring code such that the end result is functionally identical with the original code, but with the aim of achieving a better code structure, nothing more. It is a well

Re: Ada's fate (was: New JVM based language)

2014-08-24 Thread David Stokes
Tomasz Rola wrote: cargo cult procedures like refactoring Refactoring is a standard part of programming which every decent programmer uses, even if they don't call it that. It's refactoring when you replace several instances of some piece of code with a macro, to use an Assembler example. It

Re: Ada's fate (was: New JVM based language)

2014-08-24 Thread John Gilmore
David Stokes wrote: begin extract Refactoring is a standard part of programming which every decent programmer uses, even if they don't call it that. It's refactoring when you replace several instances of some piece of code with a macro, to use an Assembler example. /end extract and in this sense

Re: Ada's fate (was: New JVM based language)

2014-08-24 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 08:04:20AM -0400, John Gilmore wrote: David Stokes wrote: begin extract Refactoring is a standard part of programming which every decent programmer uses, even if they don't call it that. It's refactoring when you replace several instances of some piece of code with a

Re: Ada's fate

2014-08-23 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
rto...@ceti.com.pl (Tomasz Rola) writes: So, now the 5-6 years old anecdote about one contractor stating that Ada is obsolete makes much more sense, even though at the time I read it, it sounded rude and immoral. It doesn't really matter anymore what language will be choosen for a project -

Re: Ada's fate

2014-08-23 Thread TonyIcloud-OPERA
But other than that it's obsolete, right? Snicker snicker. On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 10:27:30 -0500, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com wrote: rto...@ceti.com.pl (Tomasz Rola) writes: So, now the 5-6 years old anecdote about one contractor stating that Ada is obsolete makes much more sense,

Re: Ada's fate (was: New JVM based language)

2014-08-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 16:26:03 +0200, Tomasz Rola wrote: So, now the 5-6 years old anecdote about one contractor stating that Ada is obsolete makes much more sense, ... (citation needed) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: Ada's fate

2014-08-23 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 11:27:30AM -0400, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote: rto...@ceti.com.pl (Tomasz Rola) writes: So, now the 5-6 years old anecdote about one contractor stating that Ada is obsolete makes much more sense, even though at the time I read it, it sounded rude and immoral. It

Re: Ada's fate (was: New JVM based language)

2014-08-23 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 11:31:45AM -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 16:26:03 +0200, Tomasz Rola wrote: So, now the 5-6 years old anecdote about one contractor stating that Ada is obsolete makes much more sense, ... (citation needed) -- gil

Re: Ada's fate

2014-08-23 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#47 Ada's fate hopefully for not too much thread drift ... we just are having a discussion in a.f.c. about Is coding the new literacy? Why America's schools need to train a generation of hackers http://www.motherjones.com/media/2014/06/computer-science