Re: CSRC4EXP

2020-11-28 Thread Peter Relson
>I am used the storage macro and the 64 bit version of that is IARST64 That's not how I think of it. Maybe, stretching, you could say that that is so for sizes <= 128K and other limitations. >It works like storage macro accessing an other address space storage in AR mode Unless I am

Re: CSRC4EXP

2020-11-27 Thread Joseph Reichman
Thanks I think and it is correct the way you ( just an assumption ) designed it That for what I want to do I need IARST64 as opposed to IARV64 I am used the storage macro and the 64 bit version of that is IARST64 It works like storage macro accessing an other address space storage in AR

Re: CSRC4EXP

2020-11-27 Thread Peter Relson
The control structures for the pool are in the space (address space or data space) identified by the ALET parameter. The service returns the address of the cell. It is up to you to have set things up so that use of the provided ALET works in whatever environment you are calling the service.

Re: CSRC4EXP

2020-11-26 Thread Joseph Reichman
Peter I meant IBMMAIN as this isnt assembler an question I didn’t know how to delete the one I posted on the assembler list Serv I read Your share presentation “ Does my address space have enough storage for me “ And The assembler services guide chapter 13 callable cell pool services “

Re: CSRC4EXP

2020-11-26 Thread Peter Relson
Isn't it considered poor form to post the same thing on multiple listserv's? >there is one alet and pointers to the anchor, extent and cells No there isn't. There is one ALET (described as the "control ALET") and a pointer to the anchor and an output pointer to the returned cell. >How can it

CSRC4EXP

2020-11-25 Thread Joseph Reichman
I'm looking at the Parms for this call there is one alet and pointers to the anchor, extent and cells How can it be the anchor extents in address space and the cells in other More so can you call CSRC4GET From address space A were the cells reside in B Thanks

Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-24 Thread Tony Harminc
On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 at 08:43, Peter Relson wrote: > The information provided so far does not show doing some sort of "OKSWAP" > afterwards. It would be inappropriate to leave the space non-swappable. Just as it would be inappropriate to make it swappable if it was non-swappable to start with.

Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-24 Thread Joseph Reichman
I do the okswap after I do a get from the cell pool Thanks > On Feb 24, 2020, at 8:43 AM, Peter Relson wrote: > > I agree with Rob and Binyamin in worrying about a design that imposes > non-swappability on someone else's address space. > I'll point out that in general TRANSWAP involves

Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-24 Thread Peter Relson
I agree with Rob and Binyamin in worrying about a design that imposes non-swappability on someone else's address space. I'll point out that in general TRANSWAP involves "swap in" and "don't allow subsequent swap-out" and "wait for completion by ECB". You can't do the wait for completion from an

Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-23 Thread Rob Scott
:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP EXTERNAL EMAIL I accessing the other address space in AR 99 % of the time I won’t have issues from those time that I do and get s0c4 In my recovery I will try to issue an SRB to sysevent swap back in If I’m

Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-23 Thread Joseph Reichman
I accessing the other address space in AR 99 % of the time I won’t have issues from those time that I do and get s0c4 In my recovery I will try to issue an SRB to sysevent swap back in If I’m unsuccessful I’ll bypass the process It’s a much better choice for me than using an SRB > On Feb

Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-23 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 15:44:12 -0500 Joseph Reichman wrote: :>All I can say is you are right these are 1% chance that I can program for I need access to the other address space with little overheard I understand the risk involved :>As long as can address it with a recovery routine it’s a much

Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-23 Thread Joseph Reichman
All I can say is you are right these are 1% chance that I can program for I need access to the other address space with little overheard I understand the risk involved As long as can address it with a recovery routine it’s a much better choice than a SRB > On Feb 23, 2020, at 2:50 PM,

Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-23 Thread scott Ford
nd > > > > thanks > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Rob Scott > > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 1:34 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP > > &g

Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-23 Thread Joseph Reichman
as it avoids > these problems > > > Can I ask where and when is your XMEM session in share I would like to see if > I can attend > > thanks > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > Rob Scott > Sent: Sunday, Feb

Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-23 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 12:16:28 -0500 Joseph Reichman wrote: :>SRB and PC are sometimes not particle Such as? Give a case. :>AR mode has its risk best to have a recovery True for most things. :>Routine to address the rare case and maybe issue a SRB to swap back in I’m not at that point yet

Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-23 Thread Binyamin Dissen
t; :>-Original Message- :>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On :>Behalf Of Joseph Reichman :>Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 7:43 AM :>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU :>Subject: Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP :> :>Then me ju

Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-23 Thread Rob Scott
On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 1:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP Personally I think that if your design requires you to alter the attributes of an address space which is not under your control, then it is likely that the design

Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-23 Thread Joseph Reichman
session in share I would like to see if I can attend thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 1:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP Personally I think that if your design

Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-23 Thread Rob Scott
not "smell right" to me. Rob Scott Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Joseph Reichman Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 3:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP EXTERNAL EMAIL Then me just say

Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-23 Thread Joseph Reichman
l use software. > > Charles > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Joseph Reichman > Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 7:43 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Cell Pool

Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-23 Thread Charles Mills
MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph Reichman Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 7:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP Then me just say what I do in the SRB The following XR R1,R1 Clear R1 as we cann't wait in SRB mode

Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-23 Thread Joseph Reichman
no; -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2020 9:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP Should just say data space Your logic confounds me. It can certainly be an address

Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-23 Thread Peter Relson
Should just say data space Your logic confounds me. It can certainly be an address space. Whether it is an address space or data space, you have to do things right. page 217 ( chapter 13) of the assembler services guide Page and chapter references don't work too well if someone is

Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-22 Thread Joseph Reichman
Peter I understand what you are saying in regards That it is not appropriate to address the target address space via alet As I saw Rob Scott’s post regarding the share session talking about xmem The diagram on page 217 ( chapter 13) of the assembler services guide is than some what erroneous

Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-22 Thread Peter Relson
It would seem then if I would I want to have the actual storage in the target address space I would have to schedule an SRB I could then issue CSRCxGET from a from that address space the cell returned could be addressed in AR mode with using the ALET Having no idea what the "target address

Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-21 Thread Joseph Reichman
Peter Thanks it would seem then if I would I want to have the actual storage in the target address space I would have to schedule an SRB I could then issue CSRCxGET from a from that address space the cell returned could be addressed in AR mode with using the ALET > On Feb 21, 2020, at

Re: Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-21 Thread Peter Relson
What is the question? There is no question within the post. The cell storage (as opposed to the storage for the control structures managing the cell storage, which can be thought of as the "anchor" and the "extent") is not touched by the service. There is one ALET used for the suite of

Cell Pool Services CSRC4EXP

2020-02-20 Thread Joseph Reichman
The documentation for cell pool services the anchor and extent can reside in one address space while the actual storage in other address space and I guess than the ALET parm would specify what address space/data space the anchor/extent reside If however the Cell pool storage as well reside