Re: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets

2024-05-09 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Wed, 8 May 2024, at 13:17, Jason Cai wrote: > Dear all > > I am reaching out to discuss a specific operation we are considering > for our z/OS DCOLLECT reports. Currently, we are planning to delete all > the datasets where LASTREF=NONE and DSORG=PS. Multiple people have mentioned JCL but

Re: IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets]

2024-05-08 Thread Michael Oujesky
? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets] I remember some releases ago of z/OS that the system will effectively do an OPEN if a DSN is created using IEFBR14. But now I can't seem to find where that is documented. So far I can't find it in the z/OS 2.2 or 3.1 JCL User's guide. I

Re: IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets]

2024-05-08 Thread Schmitt, Michael
? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets] I remember some releases ago of z/OS that the system will effectively do an OPEN if a DSN is created using IEFBR14. But now I can't seem to find where that is documented. So far I can't find it in the z/OS 2.2 or 3.1 JCL User's guide. I

Re: IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets]

2024-05-08 Thread Steve Thompson
PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets] BR14 is 2 instructions LA 15,0 BR14 Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb On May 8, 2024, at 12:00, Seymour J Metz wrote: Could

Re: IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets]

2024-05-08 Thread Steve Beaver
PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks > of Deleting Specific Datasets] > > BR14 is 2 instructions > > > LA 15,0 > BR14 > > > Sent from my iPhone > > No one said I could ty

Re: IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets]

2024-05-08 Thread Seymour J Metz
equ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 1:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets] Actually IEFBR14 is SR 15,15 BR 14 Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/

Re: IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets]

2024-05-08 Thread Seymour J Metz
<050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 1:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets] BR14 is 2 instructions LA 15,0 BR14 Sent from my iPhone No one said I

Re: IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets]

2024-05-08 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
hn Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 12:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets] BR14 is 2 instructions

Re: IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets]

2024-05-08 Thread Steve Thompson
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Steve Thompson Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 12:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets] I remember some releases ago of z

Re: IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets]

2024-05-08 Thread Steve Beaver
ISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of > Deleting Specific Datasets] > > I remember some releases ago of z/OS that the system will > effectively do an OPEN if a DSN is created using IEFBR14. But now > I can't seem to find where that is

Re: IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets]

2024-05-08 Thread Seymour J Metz
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 12:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets] I remember some releases ago of z/OS that the system will effectively do an OPEN if a DSN is created using IEFBR14. But now I

Re: IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets]

2024-05-08 Thread Steve Beaver
BR14 is just a carrier and does nothing Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb > On May 8, 2024, at 11:53, Steve Thompson wrote: > > I remember some releases ago of z/OS that the system will effectively do an > OPEN if a DSN is created using IEFBR14. But now I can't

IEFBR14 -- DSCB set? [WAS: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets]

2024-05-08 Thread Steve Thompson
I remember some releases ago of z/OS that the system will effectively do an OPEN if a DSN is created using IEFBR14. But now I can't seem to find where that is documented. So far I can't find it in the z/OS 2.2 or 3.1 JCL User's guide. I think that if the allocation specified the DCB info

Re: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets

2024-05-08 Thread Colin Paice
We fell over once because we had JCL with REF=data.set.name, and/or DCB= data.set.name This dataset was deleted as part of a cleanup and our JCL failed. I dont know how this appears in DCOLLECT Colin On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 13:17, Jason Cai wrote: > Dear all > > I am reaching out to discuss a

Re: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets

2024-05-08 Thread Jason Cai
A safer approach would be to alter the mgmt. class to (e.g. delete after 1 year of non use). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets

2024-05-08 Thread Jason Cai
Dear clarification regarding the deletion or HSM migration of datasets with the attribute ‘lastref=none’. It is my understanding that one must first execute a REXX routine capable of reading the list to open/close the datasets before one can proceed with the deletion or migration of these

Re: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets

2024-05-08 Thread Jason Cai
Dear It is a good idea to use HSM. Our system currently has a number of datasets marked with ‘lastref=none’ and a list of datasets slated for deletion. As I am not familiar with HSM, I would appreciate your assistance in understanding how to instruct HSM to migrate the aforementioned

Re: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets

2024-05-08 Thread Allan Staller
of Jason Cai Date: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 8:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets Dear all I am reaching out to discuss a specific operation we are considering for our z/OS DCOLLECT reports. Currently, we are planning

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets

2024-05-08 Thread Pommier, Rex
DU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets Dear The phrase ‘Delete the dataset, however, and you will end up with a JCL error’ is not entirely clear to me. Could you please provide an explanation? If I attempt to delete a dataset with the attribut

Re: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets

2024-05-08 Thread Paul Feller
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets Do you have DFHSM or some other management tool? Just migrate them all with an expiration date. Those that get recalled are still referenced somewhere. Dave Jousma Vice President | Director

Re: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets

2024-05-08 Thread Allan Staller
--Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jason Cai Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 7:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust the sen

Re: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets

2024-05-08 Thread Jason Cai
Dear The phrase ‘Delete the dataset, however, and you will end up with a JCL error’ is not entirely clear to me. Could you please provide an explanation? If I attempt to delete a dataset with the attribute ‘lastref=none’ using JCL, will it result in an error? Thanks a lot! Jason Cai

Re: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets

2024-05-08 Thread Jousma, David
: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 at 8:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets Dear all I am reaching out to discuss a specific operation we are considering for our z/OS DCOLLECT reports. Currently, we are planning to delete all the datasets

Re: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets

2024-05-08 Thread Styles, Andy (CIO GIS - Core Infrastructure & IT Operations)
Of Jason Cai Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 1:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets *** This email is from an external source - be careful of attachments and links. Please report suspicious emails *** Dear all I am reaching

Re: Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets

2024-05-08 Thread rpinion865
You will need to consider datasets coded in JCL that are not opened. Unless a dataset is opened, the last reference date will not be set. Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Wednesday, May 8th, 2024 at 8:17 AM, Jason Cai wrote: > Dear all > > I am reaching out to discuss a specific

Consultation on the Potential Risks of Deleting Specific Datasets

2024-05-08 Thread Jason Cai
Dear all I am reaching out to discuss a specific operation we are considering for our z/OS DCOLLECT reports. Currently, we are planning to delete all the datasets where LASTREF=NONE and DSORG=PS. This operation seems crucial for system maintenance and optimization, yet I wanted to clarify any