Re: DFDSS support for ZFS files query

2020-10-01 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Services by RSM Partners ‘Dance like no one is watching. Encrypt like everyone is.’ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: 01 October 2020 14:28 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFDSS support for ZFS files query On Wed, 30 Sep

Re: DFDSS support for ZFS files query

2020-10-01 Thread Glenn Wilcock
For those following this thread who have a DFSMShsm license, HSM does support this. It can backup all files, files based on wildcards and exclude specific files as directed by an EXCLUDE. A UNIX shell command is also available, to perform the HSM backups/recoveries directly from UNIX. Glenn

Re: DFDSS support for ZFS files query

2020-10-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 09:44:52 -0500, Ernesto Figueroa wrote: >You are correct. For now, you must specify all the path names, but we >understand this is a capability that ought to be provided in DFSMSdss. As >others have mentioned, you may be able to use other tools to craft a list of >path

Re: DFDSS support for ZFS files query

2020-10-01 Thread Sean Gleann
Thank you, Ernesto - much appreciated Vote added. Regards Sean On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 15:55, Ernesto Figueroa wrote: > You are correct. For now, you must specify all the path names, but we > understand this is a capability that ought to be provided in DFSMSdss. As > others have mentioned,

Re: LUW (was: DFDSS support for ZFS files query)

2020-09-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 8:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: LUW (was: DFDSS support for ZFS files query) On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 20:35:11 +1000, Andrew Rowley wrote: >On 30/09/2020 6:03 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote: &

Re: DFDSS support for ZFS files query

2020-09-30 Thread Ernesto Figueroa
You are correct. For now, you must specify all the path names, but we understand this is a capability that ought to be provided in DFSMSdss. As others have mentioned, you may be able to use other tools to craft a list of path names and use that to generate DFSMSdss SYSIN statements. There is

LUW (was: DFDSS support for ZFS files query)

2020-09-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 20:35:11 +1000, Andrew Rowley wrote: >On 30/09/2020 6:03 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote: >> The DSS manual say that when you specify a directory, it does not dump the >> files under that directory. That's very different from the behavior of, >> e.g., tar. > >I guess I shouldn't be

Re: DFDSS support for ZFS files query

2020-09-30 Thread Sean Gleann
I'm hoping that it's still a 'work in progress' & that one day I'll be able to say 'DUMP PATH INCLUDE('/foldera/folderb/**') or something close to that. Sean On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 11:35, Andrew Rowley wrote: > On 30/09/2020 6:03 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > The DSS manual say that when you

Re: DFDSS support for ZFS files query

2020-09-30 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 30/09/2020 6:03 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote: The DSS manual say that when you specify a directory, it does not dump the files under that directory. That's very different from the behavior of, e.g., tar. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, given how often IBM don't do things the way I hoped.

Re: DFDSS support for ZFS files query

2020-09-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
on behalf of Andrew Rowley Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 3:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFDSS support for ZFS files query I haven't tested it myself, but what I would hope is that it works like unix utilities, where the file you specify could actually be a directory

Re: DFDSS support for ZFS files query

2020-09-30 Thread Andrew Rowley
I haven't tested it myself, but what I would hope is that it works like unix utilities, where the file you specify could actually be a directory. It is pretty common when using tar etc. to set the working directory, and specify e.g. "." (a dot) to select the current directory, or specify a

Re: DFDSS support for ZFS files query

2020-09-30 Thread Sean Gleann
Wayne: Yes, it does look like each file or path has to be explicitly defined Paul: '...akin to asking DFMSMdss to select individual PDS members' is an analogy I had not seen. Thank you. And of course, DFSMSdss has never been able to do this and it's unlikely it ever will; '...filenames containing

Re: DFDSS support for ZFS files query

2020-09-29 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:52:38 +0100, Sean Gleann wrote: >I'm currently investigating the use of DFDSS DUMP PATH to secure data held >in UNIX files and folders. >... >"DFSMSdss does not provide wildcard support when processing UNIX files." >... >I can see a possible method of including a

Re: DFDSS support for ZFS files query

2020-09-29 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
It appears that you have to specify the paths as separate include statements. I would use a USS REXX script using readdir and build the include statements. I've done something similar to chase file names down from a starting directory to build a second shell script for a bunch of sed commands.

DFDSS support for ZFS files query

2020-09-29 Thread Sean Gleann
I'm currently investigating the use of DFDSS DUMP PATH to secure data held in UNIX files and folders. As far as I can see, I have to specify the WORKINGDIRECTORY to establish the starting point for the DUMP operation, then use INCLUDE to _explicitly_ specify the files I want. The available