: Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca
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Subject: Re: Duplicate job names (Was: Check whether job still running)
Sorry.
No insult intended.
But, you've been z/OS for what 3 years?
How would you feel if a bunch of MVS'rs came and b*tched
From: Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: Duplicate job names (Was: Check whether job still running)
Sorry.
No insult intended.
But, you've been z/OS for what 3 years?
How would you feel if a bunch of MVS'rs came
Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Duplicate job names (Was: Check whether job still running)
If their way was better (and I've found some MVS processes to be better; I'm no
VSE lover) I would look in to changing it. Just because something has
always been done this way doesn't
In 5182df40.4090...@phoenixsoftware.com, on 05/02/2013
at 02:48 PM, Ed Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com said:
I'm still astonished at the number of installations and software
products from IBM in 2013 that continue to institutionalize this
obsolete use of job names to identify ownership of
In
1679697450-1367553714-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-195196643-@b12.c1.bise6.blackberry,
on 05/03/2013
at 04:01 AM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca said:
Sorry.
No insult intended.
But, you've been z/OS for what 3 years?
Perhaps, but he's still correct.
How would you feel if a
On 5/2/2013 12:46 PM, Ed Gould wrote:
Finding quality operators in the first place is always an issue.
Having said that the nightmare of telling the difference between job
and job is not easy and is just fraught with possibility of
error and frankly in a shop where hundred (if not
Some shops have even institutionalized practices that produce
duplicate jobname values.
I know of one that long required development programmers who used the
submit command to use their TSOIDs as the name of every job they
submitted. I suggested that it would be helpful to these programmers
if
NOT with the quality of operators we had ...
Ed
On May 2, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote:
On 5/2/2013 12:46 PM, Ed Gould wrote:
Finding quality operators in the first place is always an issue.
Having said that the nightmare of telling the difference between
job and job is not
On Thu, 2 May 2013 17:22:51 -0400, John Gilmore wrote:
Some shops have even institutionalized practices that produce
duplicate jobname values.
I know of one that long required development programmers who used the
submit command to use their TSOIDs as the name of every job they
All because they
On 5/2/2013 2:41 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Thu, 2 May 2013 17:22:51 -0400, John Gilmore wrote:
Some shops have even institutionalized practices that produce
duplicate jobname values.
I know of one that long required development programmers who used the
submit command to use their TSOIDs as
They've been brainwashed.
From: John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com
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Some shops have even institutionalized practices
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Subject: Re: Duplicate job names (Was: Check whether job still running)
They've been brainwashed.
From: John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com
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