Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

esday, May 28, 2024 11:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP On Tue, 28 May 2024 at 09:44, Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > [...] > Should I Imagine that originally EBCDIC had no btackets and two > cus

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

On Tue, 28 May 2024 at 09:44, Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > [...] > Should I Imagine that originally EBCDIC had no btackets > and two customer cultures improvised, independently? > I'm not sure to what extent it was customer cultures vs the infamous

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

On Tue, 28 May 2024 08:43:25 -0400, Rick Troth wrote: > >... CP37 came first, and was "close" but got the square >brackets wrong (as most US installations used them). > How did that happen? The first PoOps I saw contained an EBCDIC code map. I coded to it. The brackets printed wrong on our

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

Bingo! I remember that pain well. But I was on CMS and could do a pair of 'SET OUTPUT' commands to get proper behavior with a 3279. (And matching 'SET INPUT' commands.) If you're on ISPF then I don't know what to tell ya. But if you find a fix, do share! Hang in there Tronguy. -- R; <><

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

As it happens, I'm dealing with this...have a small task to do some C, and discovered the hard way that the 3279, while having the square brackets in its normal character set, doesn't have them at the same code points as later IBM OSes expect. tn3270 shows them fine, though. On Tue, May 28, 2024

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

Hi Tom -- You're not wrong. The musical code pages have led to multiplied complexities. Living in the US, I've had it easier than some, and in most cases I can (and do) treat "EBCDIC" as CP1047 (with an exception around not and circumflex). CP37 came first, and was "close" but got the square

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 2:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP On Wed, 8 May 2024 12:05:26 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote: >"I have seen this before"--what is "this"? > I believe he's referring to my citation of the classic rant: &l

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

On Wed, 8 May 2024 12:05:26 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote: >"I have seen this before"--what is "this"? > I believe he's referring to my citation of the classic rant: I copied the wrong UR.

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

to do a conversion, I will at least look at >alternatives", and with IBM's fate hanging on the success of S/360, maybe that >would have been the proverbial straw; we'll never know. > >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of >Tom Marchant

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP "This" is the link that Gil provided in the email that I replied to, at the bottom of the post. The assertion was that IBM erred in not making the System/360 ASCII only. The availability of multiple EBCDIC code pages seems to

Re: Adoption of ASCII [Was: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP]

And beyond the 7 bit ASCII there were many National ASCII code pages using the 8th bit. On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 12:07 PM Steve Thompson wrote: > > I think the answer to this question "If IBM had "inflicted" ASCII > on its customers in 1964, would the System/360 have had the wide > acceptance that

Adoption of ASCII [Was: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP]

I think the answer to this question "If IBM had "inflicted" ASCII on its customers in 1964, would the System/360 have had the wide acceptance that it did?" was the WANG VS series machines. Just from my personal experience, many banks were using them, and IBM was, to some degree, targeting them

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

ok at >alternatives", and with IBM's fate hanging on the success of S/360, maybe that >would have been the proverbial straw; we'll never know. > >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of >Tom Marchant >Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 1

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 11:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP I have seen this before, and I am not persuaded. I find it interesting that all of the references provided were written by Mr. Beemer hi

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

I have seen this before, and I am not persuaded. I find it interesting that all of the references provided were written by Mr. Beemer himself, some of them with another author. Perhaps, in hindsight it would have been better if IBM had made the System/360 an ASCII only machine. But at the

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

At some customer I use a java zip tool derived from IBM sample that can convert to a destination (e.g. IBM850, UTF-8 etc.) CCSID on the fly. Of course the whole byte sequence must be zoned character or you'll encounter issues reading file after unzipping at the destination. Best regards. Max

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

Gil, Appendix D in the Application programming guide shows the EBCDIC and ASCII collating sequences. ALTSEQ, CHALT, and LOCALE can be used to select alternate collating sequences for character data. https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=guide-ebcdic-ascii-collating-sequences Thanks,

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

On Wed, 1 May 2024 05:38:06 +, Sri Hari Kolusu wrote: > . >>>Likewise, what are the CCSIDs in the ASCII and EBCDIC maps in the appendices >>>of the DFSORT Ref? >And what EBCDIC CCSID(s) is/are used by DFSORT regular expressions? > >1047-US is the code page that DFSORT uses for Regular

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

The first question I would like to ask with such tasks - just to make sure: are there any binary parts in the source EBCDIC files, like packed decimal or binary numeric data, or is it just plain EBCDIC text - with maybe zoned decimal digits (X'f0' to x'f9')? if there are binary parts, you

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

>> What UNTERSE tool is available on Windows? Linux? Gil, WWunterse from Watson walker. Announcement here https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/discussion/free-product-to-unterse-smf-and-vb-data-on-distributed-platforms Direct download link

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

On Wed, 1 May 2024 03:23:06 +, Sri Hari Kolusu wrote: >>> On zOS, its EBCDIC file, is there any solution first convert to ASCII then >>> Terse send? > Also: . (Remember to fix the lineends.) What UNTERSE tool is available on

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

>> On zOS, its EBCDIC file, is there any solution first convert to ASCII then >> Terse send? BM, You can use DFSORT TRAN=ETOA function which translates characters from EBCDIC to ASCII using the default standard TCP/IP service EBCDIC-to-ASCII translation table. For example, with TRAN=ETOA, the

Re: EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

BM wrote, in part: >On zOS, its EBCDIC file, is there any solution first convert to ASCII then >Terse send? Google is your friend: "z/os" "convert to ascii" immediately found lots of discussion, including https://bit.listserv.ibm-main.narkive.com/kIFvk8fr/data-conversion-ebcdic-to-ascii which

EBCDIC/ASCII - FTP

Looking for expert's opinions/solutions here. Trying to FTP large file from zOS2.5 to Windows server using FTP protocol but it's taking more time, trying to compress file on zOS (TRSMAIN) then ftping, its quick but at destination (Windows) it's not readable after Unterse. On zOS, its EBCDIC