Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-22 Thread Edward Gould
> On Sep 19, 2017, at 2:03 PM, Jousma, David wrote: > > If it were me, I'd use DFDSS to copy with rename the filesystems. If > applicable, IPL onto the new ones, before deleting the old ones. I use DFDSS > to clone filesystems as a regular part of maintenance. If they

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-21 Thread Carmen Vitullo
authority, user audit I can turn off as uid(0) Carmen - Original Message - From: "John McKown" <john.archie.mck...@gmail.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 12:19:37 PM Subject: Re: Extended format system ZFS files On Thu, Sep 21,

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-21 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote: > When I used REPRO on a zFS the same size was used no matter how the TO > file was set up. So I think REPRO works for a like-to-like copy. > > If you want to resize, you need to create a new zFS then use OMVS to

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
files and attributes, etc in tack in the target file Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of R.S. > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 8:28 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Exte

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-21 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2017-09-21 o 14:01, Shaffer, Terri pisze: I was able to use REPRO and everything worked great. The key is just do the allocation of the ZFS and not the format as repro will copy the format and ZFS changes to ZFS when I mounted. That's easy to explain: you copy CI's - kind of

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-21 Thread Shaffer, Terri
-519-2592) terri.shaf...@aciworldwide.com​ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2017 3:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Extended format system ZFS files My $0.02: It wouldn't

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-21 Thread R.S.
My $0.02: It wouldn't be bad thing to create some chapter in the documentation, or redbook with possible (correct) methods for (at least) few basic ZFS/HFS operations. My proposals: * copy entire ZFS to a new ZFS * discuss the above with non-equal parameters for source and target (EA, SMS,

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-20 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
ded format system ZFS files >Although this is possible and you'd have a backup, I'd rather move chunks of >folders at a time using USS-specific tools. Why? What are you afraid of? I can't remember all the details, but about 3 years ago we had to copy a really large file system into a ne

AW: Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-20 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>Although this is possible and you'd have a backup, I'd rather move chunks of >folders at a time using USS-specific tools. Why? What are you afraid of? I can't remember all the details, but about 3 years ago we had to copy a really large file system into a new cluster (I think because the

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-20 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Extended format system ZFS files Depends on the size. Repro would be a *VERY BAD* idea. IBM has multiple caveats on how to handle ZFS files. IIRC REPRO is specifically forbidden. The short answer is delete/define and copy with pax (or copytree). There is no painless was to get

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Shaffer, Terri
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Extended format system ZFS files This question has overtones (undertones?) reminiscent of avoiding PDSE. Just isn't necessary. Our HFS/ZFS files have been SMS managed for many years with no problems. I'm pretty sure that no particular task is required to open

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2017-09-19, at 12:55, Allan Staller wrote: > > The short answer is delete/define and copy with pax (or copytree). > I might do that in a different order. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Matthew Stitt
Does you SMS Storage Class list have one which can be specified to make a dataset non SMS managed? And does your SMS ACS routines test for that non SMS storage class and obey your wishes? If so, then add the STORCLAS parameter to your DFDSS copy job along with the destination volume. Also

AW: Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>Depends on the size. Repro would be a *VERY BAD* idea. IBM has multiple >caveats on how to handle ZFS files. >IIRC REPRO is specifically forbidden. This is not true! Read the z/OS Distributed File Service zFS Administration guide, and search for REPRO. It is a described way for certain file

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Subject: (External):Re: Extended format system ZFS files If it were me, I'd use DFDSS to copy with rename the filesystems. If applicable, IPL onto the new ones, before deleting the old ones. I use DFDSS to clone filesystems as a regular part of maintenance. If they are mounted READ only

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Jousma, David
] On Behalf Of Shaffer, Terri Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Extended format system ZFS files **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** Tried that, or to copy and got, I

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Shaffer, Terri
day, September 19, 2017 2:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Extended format system ZFS files If it were me, I'd use DFDSS to copy with rename the filesystems. If applicable, IPL onto the new ones, before deleting the old ones. I use DFDSS to clone filesystems as a regular p

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Jousma, David
, 2017 3:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Extended format system ZFS files **CAUTION EXTERNAL EMAIL** **DO NOT open attachments or click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails** If it were me, I'd use DFDSS to copy with rename the filesystems. If applicable, IPL onto

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Jousma, David
  49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Shaffer, Terri Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 2:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Extended format system ZFS files **CAUTION

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Doug Fuerst
.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Sent: 19-Sep-17 2:11:06 PM Subject: Extended format system ZFS files So I have a question. Is it possible to convert my z/OS system ZFS files from SMS Extended to Non-SMS datasets? What would be the process? Repro out and back? Is there a simpler way? I

Re: Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Allan Staller
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Shaffer, Terri Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 1:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Extended format system ZFS files So I have a question. Is it possible to convert my z/OS system ZFS files from SMS

Extended format system ZFS files

2017-09-19 Thread Shaffer, Terri
So I have a question. Is it possible to convert my z/OS system ZFS files from SMS Extended to Non-SMS datasets? What would be the process? Repro out and back? Is there a simpler way? I know technically this works fine, but I don’t like my system datasets being SMS managed and the previous