Edward Gould wrote:
>The other sort of non public side are the Zos products that
>are languishing and are not really supported any more (i.e.
>TSOE...
Perhaps you missed the other TSO/E-related thread in this forum (that I
cannot comment on directly)? Something about the number 8. (Or was it 7? I
Timothy:
IBM can’t seem to get their act together on internet issues (just look at all
the issues brought up here and don’t forget the hundreds of thousands of the
non mainframe public who are frustrated.
HINT the internet is not anywhere as complicated as the MF.
The other sort of non public s
Responding to Mike Beer, I have no doubt that improvement is possible and
important. Goodness knows I'm constantly searching for improvement
opportunities, personally and professionally, and recommend that everybody
do the same. That said, I learned a long time ago that one doesn't get very
far in
Timothy,
thank you for your detailed answer.
As a former IBMer I still love mainframes. I started working on a
370/158 some years ago..
Having been in marketing for quite some time (e.g. S/390) I know how
difficult it is to do global marketing.
I think everyone here in this group wants the IBM
Charles, IBM has been building System/360 machines and their direct, lineal
descendants for well over half a century. In IBM's latest earnings report
(and with impressive priors) its IBM z System/LinuxONE revenues and profits
are up again, and capacity shipments are up even more, again. That's even
just
some weird IBM box.
To success!
Charles
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Charles Mills wrote:
&g
On 12 February 2017 at 19:50, Timothy Sipples wrote:
> IBM's CFO also reported 8 new customers in the quarter, 29 in 2016, and 80
> since
> introduction of the IBM z13.
>
Is that "net new" or just plain "new"?
Tony H.
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Mike Beer wrote:
>Unfortunately LinuxOne is as difficult to configure and to sell for a
>business partner as traditional mainframes. Last year IBM also
>required the same skill set from a business partner (e.g. z/OS
>certfication) for a machine that is "only linux".
IBM publishes its list of requi
Charles Mills wrote:
>Anyone have any idea how successful it has been? The answer matters
>to the MVS community because if IBM can sell a warehouse full of them it
>will support further mainframe hardware development, which must
>currently seem to IBM to be a small niche market.
Where do you g
z/VM still consists of CP + CMS:
Use the control program (CP) command language when:
- You are a z/VM system operator and you want to control the resources
of the real machine
located in your computer room.
- You are a virtual machine user and you want to control your virtual
machine’s conf
Edward:
I can say something about that, as I was a member of the team that
developed the prototype and was scheduled to become the leader of one of
the two development teams charged with the planned "CMS on MVS" product.
While we were getting staffed up, IBM canceled the project. The planned
The IBM Q4 results do not mention LinuxONE at all.
If it would be reported as z revenue, it should be there, but:
Systems gross margin was up year to year due to
-*both improvement in z margins, and**
**-**the relative strength in that higher margin business.**
*That does not look like LinuxONE.
I
> Nothing will run without the PR/SM hypervisor.
Good point.
Charles
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Just found a marketing background story on LinuxONE
http://www.centerline.net/client-stories/building-a-custom-product-and-brand-to-connect-with-a-new-audience
Just found a marketing background story on LinuxONE
http://www.centerline.net/client-stories/building-a-custom-product-and-brand-to-connect-with-a-new-audience/
Mike
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Don't know about the rockhopper, but we cabled up an emperor a few months ago.
Looks just the same as the z13s sitting beside it.
To my knowledge they are the same. It was a great marketing idea to
rebrand it.
(Why they chose the name of company with bad reputation remains unclear:
http://ww
It required z/VM for various assists.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#30 Virtualization's Past Helps Explain
Its Current Importance
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2017b.html#36 IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper
I was involved in doing a lot of the work on ECPS (vm microcode assist)
for 138/148
charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) writes:
> independently of z/VM, but that is no longer true.
>
> I'm quite familiar architecturally with CMS. Yes, it is in one sense
> an operating system. If I drew a picture of z/VM with a bunch of
> guests, CMS would be a peer to VSE, z/OS and Linux, all of whic
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 16:58:10 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
>[... CMS ...] It is more of a
>single-user terminal session than an OS. And yes, it no longer can be IPLed
>on the hardware, so a purist might say that disqualifies it as an operating
>system right there. What kind of operating system requ
Back in the days. There was CMS for MVS in the early 80's. One of the
developers was a regular at SHARE and I guess resigned due to the decision to
shelve it for 'Marketing Considerations'. Went on the shelf right next to the
Clist Compiler-CLIC.
In a message dated 2/10/2017 6:58:25 P.M.
y of CP"? CMS is a component
of z/VM; it can't be independent of z/VM, it *is* z/VM.
Charles
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So the Rockhopper is buil
>>> On 2/10/2017 at 03:58 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
> Everything I know about Linux administration could be engraved on the back of
> a postage stamp but I would think that if one were a pure Linux sort of
> person then one would almost certainly use kvm for Rockhopper virtualization,
That is
>>> On 2/10/2017 at 03:06 PM, Paul Gilmartin
<000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> So the Rockhopper is built on a z12 and Emperor on a z13. But:
Not any more. With the release of the z13s, that changed.
> ... The z13 mainframe series can hold up to 10 TBs of memory.
>
>>> On 2/10/2017 at 10:43 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
> Anyone have any idea how successful it has been? Is it catching on as a
> general Linux server, or does the Linux community view it as some weird
> mainframey thing?
Since the current Rockhopper is, in terms of hardware only, simply a rebra
processors:
IBM LinuxONE Emperor is based on the IBM z13
IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper is based on the IBM z13s.
Note: Prior to the general availability of the z13s, Rockhopper is based on the
IBM zEnterprize BC12.
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 07:43:14 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
>Anyone have any idea how successful it has been? Is it catching on as a
>general Linux server, or does the Linux community view it as some weird
>mainframey thing?
>
>The answer matters to the MVS community because if IBM can sell a wareh
Rockhopper
Has anyone in the group ever priced out an IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper?
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Has anyone in the group ever priced out an IBM LinuxONE Rockhopper?
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