Re: IBM sues Micro Focus, claims it copied mainframe software • The Register

2022-11-23 Thread Bill Johnson
“To ensure you steer clear of any legal risk of reverse engineering, it should be performed only to the extent of allowances, such as for accessing ideas, facts, and functional concepts contained in the product.” I doubt MicroFocus received allowances from IBM. Especially considering they were

Re: IBM sues Micro Focus, claims it copied mainframe software • The Register

2022-11-23 Thread Mike Schwab
If you re-implement the code using only the published API without referencing the old code was ruled legal in the Google re-implementation of JAVA. Google experienced problems due to incompatibilities between versions of Java, so this was their fix.

Re: IBM sues Micro Focus, claims it copied mainframe software • The Register

2022-11-23 Thread Tony Harminc
On Tue, 22 Nov 2022 at 19:47, Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Reverse engineering to get the source code is illegal. > That's a remarkably broad and unsubstantiated claim. Tony H. --

Re: IBM sues Micro Focus, claims it copied mainframe software • The Register

2022-11-23 Thread Tom Brennan
Ah... the "everybody does it" defense. On 11/23/2022 4:06 AM, W Mainframe wrote: IBM is only IBM...There are lot of CICS clone running in our world... :)This is not a news... I have a CICS clone running in a 100% JVM... Gnucobol, BMS supporting, Java transactions and a simulated VSAM under

Re: IBM sues Micro Focus, claims it copied mainframe software • The Register

2022-11-23 Thread W Mainframe
IBM is only IBM...There are lot of CICS clone running in our world... :)This is not a news... I have a CICS clone running in a 100% JVM... Gnucobol, BMS supporting, Java transactions and a simulated VSAM under Mysql... works fine...  My toy! lol Dan Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On

Re: IBM sues Micro Focus, claims it copied mainframe software • The Register

2022-11-22 Thread Tom Brennan
My guess is it's more like how Compaq managed to create their PC compatible ROM in the 80's. On 11/22/2022 4:46 PM, Bill Johnson wrote: Reverse engineering to get the source code is illegal. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 11:23 AM, Joe Monk wrote: Not sure

Re: IBM sues Micro Focus, claims it copied mainframe software • The Register

2022-11-22 Thread Bob T Roller
Explains a recent MicroFocus hire who used to work at IBM & was a CICS expert there. Sent from Proton Mail for iOS On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 7:46 PM, Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Reverse engineering to get the source code is illegal. > > Sent from Yahoo

Re: IBM sues Micro Focus, claims it copied mainframe software • The Register

2022-11-22 Thread Bill Johnson
Reverse engineering to get the source code is illegal. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, November 22, 2022, 11:23 AM, Joe Monk wrote: Not sure that this is a winnable lawsuit though. The architecture of a file (and the data therein) that is only needed to run a product is not

Re: IBM sues Micro Focus, claims it copied mainframe software • The Register

2022-11-22 Thread Joe Monk
Not sure that this is a winnable lawsuit though. The architecture of a file (and the data therein) that is only needed to run a product is not copyright protected. So copying the WSBIND file doesnt necessarily amount to a copyright violation. Joe On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 10:10 AM Bob T Roller <

Re: IBM sues Micro Focus, claims it copied mainframe software • The Register

2022-11-22 Thread Bob T Roller
Not surprised. They lost their preferred vendor status with IBM a year or so ago. Because of their tie up with Amazon. Sent from Proton Mail for iOS On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 9:25 AM, Mark Regan wrote: > https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/22/ibm_sues_micro_focus_for > > ​Regards, > > Mark

Re: IBM sues Micro Focus, claims it copied mainframe software • The Register

2022-11-22 Thread Paul Gorlinsky
More like third and fourth… TurboHercules and PSI were first… TurboHercules for violating IBM patents that they put into the public domain. PSI … no comment, they ended up buying them and use their tech in zPDT… -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: IBM sues Micro Focus, claims it copied mainframe software • The Register

2022-11-22 Thread Paul Gorlinsky
Long, Long time ago in a valley far, far away - Sun Microsystems was using an Amdahl processor running MVS for all virtually everything to run the business. One of the C-level people decided that it was ridiculous to be on an Amdahl instead of their own product. After many months of

Re: IBM sues Micro Focus, claims it copied mainframe software • The Register

2022-11-22 Thread Itschak Mugzach
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Re: IBM sues Micro Focus, claims it copied mainframe software • The Register

2022-11-22 Thread Carmen Vitullo
interesting, my last gig was working for a large freight company that spent many years and tons of $$$'s to replace their mainframes with MFES no POC was done before spending all this money on a solution that could not provide this company a stable environment. thanks Mark Carmen On

IBM sues Micro Focus, claims it copied mainframe software • The Register

2022-11-22 Thread Mark Regan
https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/22/ibm_sues_micro_focus_for ​Regards, Mark Regan, K8MTR General, EN80tg CTO1 USNR-Retired (1969-1991), RUENAAA/CNO WASHINGTON DC//OP-009QCP Nationwide Insurance, Retired, 1986-2017 z/OS Network Software Consultant (z NetView, z/OS Communications Server)