Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In !!AAAYADO3kaXBOTJGmkWYxtxnvxbCgAAAEGGt6jX0G0VOiqkAfOxUsNsBAA==@comcast.net, on 06/27/2014 at 11:01 AM, MichealButz michealb...@comcast.net said: I can't use the TSO service facility IKJEFTSR ( I would like issue certain non-authorized TSO commands) because my

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-29 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In !!AAAYADO3kaXBOTJGmkWYxtxnvxbCgAAAEBrRtKaY6udHjgdam3VPu68BAA==@comcast.net, on 06/27/2014 at 09:57 AM, MichealButz michealb...@comcast.net said: What if that code generates a PC rtn does TMP know of it No. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-28 Thread Binyamin Dissen
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On :Behalf Of Rob Scott :Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 11:55 AM :To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU :Subject: Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns : :It is well documented in the TSO manuals that IKEFTSR will not allow :authorized programs to issue unauthorized commands. : :All authorized command

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-27 Thread John McKown
No. If the PC routine does not require APF authorization, then the IKJTSOnn AUTH... entry isn't relevant. As an example, the STORAGE macro does a PC to do its magic, not an SVC. But a program which uses the STORAGE macro doesn't need to be in the list(s) mentioned. Only programs which are linked

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-27 Thread Micheal Butz
Thanks let me get to the point The program that creates the PC rtn Is the AUTHCMD/PGM so I cann't use IKJEFTSR However I am thinking the PC rtn might be able to Thanks Sent from my iPhone On Jun 27, 2014, at 10:30 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: No. If the PC

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-27 Thread Rob Scott
Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Micheal Butz Sent: 27 June 2014 15:38 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns Thanks let me get to the point The program

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-27 Thread MichealButz
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 10:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns Are you trying to say that you have a TSO command processor that is attempting to define and own a PC

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-27 Thread Rob Scott
Of MichealButz Sent: 27 June 2014 16:02 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns Rob,, I can't use the TSO service facility IKJEFTSR ( I would like issue certain non-authorized TSO commands) because my program is in IKJEFTSOxx AUTHPGM/CMD I know that PC rtn's

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-27 Thread MichealButz
Subject: Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns If you have a PC-owning service-providing server address space, then you could probably dispense with AUTHPGM/CMD/TSF entries completely and keep your client code in normal problem state key 8. Your non-auth client can ask the server address space

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-27 Thread Rob Scott
Tel: +1.781.684.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of MichealButz Sent: 27 June 2014 16:29 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns Why

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-27 Thread MichealButz
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 11:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns It is well documented in the TSO manuals that IKEFTSR will not allow authorized programs to issue unauthorized commands. All authorized command/program activity in TSO runs under

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-27 Thread Rob Scott
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns It is well documented in the TSO manuals that IKEFTSR will not allow authorized programs to issue unauthorized commands. All authorized command/program activity in TSO runs under a parallel authorized TMP jobstep - running commands

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-27 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 15:55:17 +, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: As far as NOWTPMSG, it might be useful to investigate if it is *supported* to change the UPT settings manually - see UPTWTP and UPTNCOM in IKJUPT. They are documented as being part of the programming interface,

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-27 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 11:29:01 -0400, MichealButz michealb...@comcast.net wrote: Why cant I issue simple TSO command via IKJEFTSR because my code is authorized I don't understand the idea behind it I would like to keep everything local to my TSO address space I am not trying to do anything kooky I

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-27 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 11:01:36 -0400, MichealButz michealb...@comcast.net wrote: Rob,, I can't use the TSO service facility IKJEFTSR ( I would like issue certain non-authorized TSO commands) because my program is in IKJEFTSOxx AUTHPGM/CMD I know that PC rtn's are separate entities so I am

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-27 Thread Micheal Butz
I'm starting authorized APF AUTHPGM Authcmd and like to issue certain TSO CDMA via IKJEFTSR And am unable because I'm in the AUTHPGM section of IKJTSOxx Sent from my iPhone On Jun 27, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote: On 27 June 2014 10:38, Micheal Butz

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-27 Thread Micheal Butz
Okay thanks It still doesn't make sense to me If inadvertently did something I am already authorized Sent from my iPhone On Jun 27, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Walt Farrell walt.farr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 11:01:36 -0400, MichealButz michealb...@comcast.net wrote: Rob,, I

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-27 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Micheal Butz Okay thanks It still doesn't make sense to me If inadvertently did something I am already authorized That's the point: You could do something you would never be explicitly authorized to do.

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-27 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 15:39:10 -0400, Micheal Butz michealb...@comcast.net wrote: Okay thanks It still doesn't make sense to me If inadvertently did something I am already authorized Yes, but you're trying to run code that is not yours, is not supposed to run authorized, and has not been

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-27 Thread DanD
What am I missing WHY can't you use IKJEFTSR? Dan -Original Message- From: MichealButz Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 11:01 AM Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Subject: Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns Rob,, I can't use the TSO service facility IKJEFTSR ( I would like issue

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-27 Thread DanD
Discussion List Subject: Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns What am I missing WHY can't you use IKJEFTSR? Dan -Original Message- From: MichealButz Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 11:01 AM Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Subject: Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns Rob,, I can't use

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-27 Thread Micheal Butz
: bit.listserv.ibm-main Subject: Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns Rob,, I can't use the TSO service facility IKJEFTSR ( I would like issue certain non-authorized TSO commands) because my program is in IKJEFTSOxx AUTHPGM/CMD I know that PC rtn's are separate entities so I am looking for the PC rtn

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-27 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 6/27/2014 8:55 AM, Rob Scott wrote: It is well documented in the TSO manuals that IKEFTSR will not allow authorized programs to issue unauthorized commands. And this seems, at least in principle, roughly analogous to the abend306 that occurs when privileged code attempts to LOAD a module

Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns

2014-06-27 Thread DanD
Micheal, What are you trying to do? Maybe there's a better way to design your command. Dan -Original Message- From: Micheal Butz Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 5:46 PM Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Subject: Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns Because I aurhorized and in authcmd